Considering the value of first round draft picks

[Galian Beast]

I think a lot of people may put too much stock into first round draft picks. Especially ones as low as the ones we have.

In terms of trading for a player like Darren McFadden, who could easily be a home run answer for us at running back.

Would you trade two of the following players for Adrian Peterson?

http://www.cowboysplus.com/classic/recordbook/draft/2007/index.htmlAnthony Spencer
Bobby Carpenter
Demarcus Ware
http://www.cowboysplus.com/classic/recordbook/draft/2004/index.htmlJulius Jones*
Terence Newman
http://www.cowboysplus.com/classic/recordbook/draft/2002/index.htmlRoy Williams
http://www.cowboysplus.com/classic/recordbook/draft/2001/index.htmlQuincy Carter*
http://www.cowboysplus.com/classic/recordbook/draft/2000/index.htmlDwayne Goodrich*
http://www.cowboysplus.com/classic/recordbook/draft/1999/index.htmlEbenezer Ekuban
http://www.cowboysplus.com/classic/recordbook/draft/1998/index.htmlGreg Ellis

2nd round draft picks

The only players I wouldn't trade on that list are Ware and Newman. And I would trade the entire list (assuming they were still on the team) for Adrian Peterson.

 

[theebs]

For me personally, I will take the two players Especially with where this team is at.

This is how you build a winner. The trick is dont miss now.

 

[Big Dakota]

I think a lot of people may put too much stock into first round draft picks. Especially ones as low as the ones we have.

In terms of trading for a player like Darren McFadden, who could easily be a home run answer for us at running back.

Would you trade two of the following players for Adrian Peterson?

Anthony Spencer
Bobby Carpenter
Demarcus Ware
Julius Jones*
Terence Newman
Roy Williams
Quincy Carter*
Dwayne Goodrich*
Ebenezer Ekuban
Greg Ellis

2nd round draft picks

The only players I wouldn't trade on that list are Ware and Newman. And I would trade the entire list (assuming they were still on the team) for Adrian Peterson.[/quote]

Not only have you lost all credibility with that statement, i fear you've lost your mind.

 

[Galian Beast]

Big Dakota, I'm sorry if you feel like Bobby Carpenter is the golden gooose... but I don't...

 

[Big Dakota]

Big Dakota, I'm sorry if you feel like Bobby Carpenter is the golden gooose... but I don't...

Anthony Spencer
Bobby Carpenter
Demarcus Ware
Julius Jones*
Terence Newman
Roy Williams
Quincy Carter*
Dwayne Goodrich*
Ebenezer Ekuban
Greg Ellis



Carp wasn't the only guy on your list. You said you'd trade EVERYONE on your list. Now that's just nonsense.

 

[Yeagermeister]

It's not just the players it the cost of signing a top 5 pick and the effect it has on keeping other players like Newman and Barber. We still have to sign them plus Ware.

 

[Galian Beast]

reading is your friend... i said i would trade the entire list except newman and ware... i don't know who you're attached to on that list...

I'd give Ellis and Spencer for Peterson any day, and I wouldn't mind straight up releasing Roy Williams... so yeah... good luck...

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Let's get DMac....it has been 12 long yrs since we have won a playoff game!

 

[Galian Beast]

If we had adrian peterson on our team right now, would we not resign him? Although you have a point, why is it that when ever a good player is available or out there people say "he is too expensive", if he were already on our team would he be? Was Flo too expensive? Will Newman be?

Sometimes you can't afford not to get a player.

I.E. How not getting Randy Moss destroyed the Cowboys in the 90s.

 

[Big Dakota]

It's not just the players it the cost of signing a top 5 pick and the effect it has on keeping other players like Newman and Barber. We still have to sign them plus Ware.

Now that Turner got his 15 million up front, can you imagine what it would cost to carry both MBIII and DMac? I'm afraid if Jerry wants DMac, he'll have to let MBIII walk after the 2008 season. It also bring up the issue of touches. How in the world will you divide 350-375 carries between 2 backs making 35-45 million in up front cash? I'm not an NFL owner, but i certainly couldn't justify the cost if i were.

 

[theebs]

If we had adrian peterson on our team right now, would we not resign him? Although you have a point, why is it that when ever a good player is available or out there people say "he is too expensive", if he were already on our team would he be? Was Flo too expensive? Will Newman be?

Sometimes you can't afford not to get a player.

I.E. How not getting Randy Moss destroyed the Cowboys in the 90s.

Really? You really think that?

Tell me what scenario where a team signed a free agent wr and that won them a championship.

newsflash, wr dont win championships alone and they certainly have not been good bets in free agency for most teams.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Now that Turner got his 15 million up front, can you imagine what it would cost to carry both MBIII and DMac? I'm afraid if Jerry wants DMac, he'll have to let MBIII walk after the 2008 season. It also bring up the issue of touches. How in the world will you divide 350-375 carries between 2 backs making 35-45 million in up front cash? I'm not an NFL owner, but i certainly couldn't justify the cost if i were.

Turner and Samuels have set the bar for what it will take to resign Newman and Barber and it won't be cheap.

 

[Galian Beast]

Thats where you have the option to move one of the two.

Kansas City, New Orleans, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Indianapolis, San Diego...

 

[theebs]

Turner and Samuels have set the bar for what it will take to resign Newman and Barber and it won't be cheap.

Luckily for us they are both high character, high talent hard working players who are worth every penny.

 

[Big Dakota]

reading is your friend... i said i would trade the entire list except newman and ware... i don't know who you're attached to on that list...

I'd give Ellis and Spencer for Peterson any day, and I wouldn't mind straight up releasing Roy Williams... so yeah... good luck...

The only players I wouldn't trade on that list are Ware and Newman. And I would trade the entire list (assuming they were still on the team) for Adrian Peterson.[/quote]


I guess you think i'm as dumb as you?

What does " And I would trade the entire list (assuming they were still on the team) for Adrian Peterson" mean in your world?

 

[Galian Beast]

Wide receivers might not necessarily win you a super bowl, but they can certainly help get you there....

And if you don't think that Aikman - Moss - Smith wouldn't have kept us winning super bowls... you're wrong... The biggest problem with the Cowboys became their offense. We lost the production, then we lost the offensive line. Then we lost our quarterback. Then we lost our running back.

If Moss was drafted by the Cowboys, Aikman would have probably just recently retired.

 

[Galian Beast]

learn how to read, I said I wouldn't trade ware/newman, the previous sentence implies that they are not included... reading is your friend.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

I think a lot of people may put too much stock into first round draft picks. Especially ones as low as the ones we have.

In terms of trading for a player like Darren McFadden, who could easily be a home run answer for us at running back.

He could EASILY be a BUST ALSO!!!!!!!!!!

Would you trade two of the following players for Adrian Peterson?

Anthony Spencer
Bobby Carpenter
Demarcus Ware
Julius Jones*
Terence Newman
Roy Williams
Quincy Carter*
Dwayne Goodrich*
Ebenezer Ekuban
Greg Ellis

Whats' your point?
your looking at PAST DRAFT PICKS where you KNOW there outcome in the NFL and using it on Adrian Peterson where you KNOW he can succeed in the NFL where as you DO NOT KNOW who our 1st round picks will be (maybe Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin) and comparing them to an UNKNOWN R.B. in McFadden where you DON'T KNOW if he'll succeed in the NFL!
this HYPOTHETICAL is the most ******** thing I ever read!

The only players I wouldn't trade on that list are Ware and Newman. And I would trade the entire list (assuming they were still on the team) for Adrian Peterson.

And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle!
WHAT ON EARTH does this have to do with McFadden and OUR 1st round picks????????????
Cause our 1st rounders coudl be Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin and McFadden could be the next Blair Thomas and Kijana Carter!
So since the draft is SUCH a cr@p shoot, you would not trade away a guy like Barber and two 1st round picks to get a DIFFERENT R.B> when you have a pro bowler who's proved he can succeed in the NFL!
Not to mention you're getting THREE PLAYERS Barber (one proven pro-bowler) and two 1st round picks for the price of ONE PLAYER at ONE POSITION, not to mention it would cost MORE MONEY for McFadden then it would be to sign Barber AND both our 1st rounders on top of it.

 

[masomenos]

It's not necessarily showing first round picks aren't valuable, it's just showing we don't always do the best job of deciding who to draft.

The list could have looked like

Joseph Addai RB
Demarcus Ware OLB
Bob Sanders SS
Terrence Newman CB
Dwight Freeney DE
Shaun Rogers DT
Deon Grant FS
Antoine Winfield CB
Randy Moss WR

So it's not like the talent isn't there when we're making our choices. Don't undervalue draft picks just because we haven't done a great job on finding the right players.

 

[2much2soon]

Don't undervalue draft picks just because we haven't done a great job on finding the right players.

I think that is an outstanding reason to undervalue these draft picks.

People on this board act like its a given Dallas will get excellent, even good, value with those 2 #1s, to the point of considering it lunacy to trade them.
Dallas could, and has too many times in the last 12 years, draft a couple of busts, and Dmac could run off into the record books for Oakland or whatever team drafts him.
Or not.