Conspiracy Theory on Reeves

[theebs]

yea, count me in as not buying it either.

Unlike most I believe wade has a very large ego and he is very thin skinned.

I dont know any coach that would do that let alone wade phillips.

It will be an odd twist though if shanahan replaces reeves and phillips again.

although I am hoping that doesnt happen.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Jerry- "the coaches are in place"

right after the season...in fact it might have been after the game

Most people knew Brian Stewart and Bruce Read were out. When Jerry Jones stated that the Coaches and Personnell were in place, that meant Jason Garrett, Terrell Owens and Wade Phillips were in place. Bruce Read and Brian Stewart were going to be gone after the season, not sure why anyone would believe differently.

Maybe because Brian Stewart was a close friend of Wade and Wade didn't want to call out his friend in public, telling him he was going to be fired. Imagine how Stewart would have taken it, learning he was gone through the media?

Is it really that hard to comprehend? Yes, that would mean Wade lied.

Yep, this is a reasonable assumption but there are better ways to answer this question if Wade Phillips indeed knew Brian Stewart was on the chopping block.

 

[Alexander]

Unlike most I believe wade has a very large ego and he is very thin skinned.

He has reminded the media on multiple occasions how proud he is of his head coaching achievements. He even said it when he was hired, that he was a good head coach. He has his W-L record memorized and will not hesistate to use it to defend himself. That is a habit he has. He uses numbers often that way. Sadly, only one matters. 0-3 in the playoffs.

Unless it is all a front, he's no Dave Campo that would graciously accept demotion like that.

 

[theebs]

He has reminded the media on multiple occasions how proud he is of his head coaching achievements. He even said it when he was hired, that he was a good head coach. He has his W-L record memorized and will not hesistate to use it to defend himself. That is a habit he has. He uses numbers often that way. Sadly, only one matters. 0-3 in the playoffs.

Unless it is all a front, he's no Dave Campo that would graciously accept demotion like that.

Unfortunately I know all too well. I watched that phillips hiring press conference recently.

it was a "I go to the playoffs in the first season everywhere I go", "I am above .500 and I would have won in denver and buffalo except...."

then he throws in his excuses. that is the biggest reason I dislike wade phillips and coaches like him. He is an excuse maker. he has thin skin and because he can not except that his way does not work he makes excuses and goes forward. When people get around excuse makers they start making excuses. It goes on here.

The man in charge is all over the map. he changes his opinions and philosophies as much as the wind blows, the head coach is a rampant excuse maker and the guy that all the young players look up to in the locker room is a complete mental case.

When you put all that together you get problems.

But hey we went 13-3 in 07.

 

[WarDaddy]

Hopefully, he comes in to help Garrett and we bring in someone to stay on top of Romo. If anyone should have been shown the door after last season given the recent rumors it should have been the QB coach.

I'm sure he's a quality guy (Wilson) but people are saying that Romo regressed last year.

I don't believe that whole heartedly but I do feel there should have been a tangible improvement.

I don't think anyone can say there was.

 

[CF74]

Here's another possibility:

Jones is gonna keep Wade Phillips on as the Head Coach for now, but Maybe Jones is hedging his bet by bringing in Reeves to have him available to be an interim coach if the wheels fall off again. In the meantime, he can get Reeves' advice and Wade can get his help in putting together a more disciplined program.
It's a win win situation provided we start winning again:laugh2:

 

[Alexander]

Here's another possibility:

Jones is gonna keep Wade Phillips on as the Head Coach for now, but Maybe Jones is hedging his bet by bringing in Reeves to have him available to be an interim coach if the wheels fall off again. In the meantime, he can get Reeves' advice and Wade can get his help in putting together a more disciplined program.
It's a win win situation provided we start winning again:laugh2:

Why employ Reeves to be the interim when you could just get a head start on the Jason Garrett era?

I still believe that is what Jones should do if he were smart. If he is going to fire Phillips, do it before the season ends and give Garrett an audition. If he does not handle it well, move on to a better veteran coach in 2010.

 

[CF74]

Why employ Reeves to be the interim when you could just get a head start on the Jason Garrett era?

What has Garrett done to prove he's capable? If you say 13-4 you have the Sparano argument and even then we still had the December melt down.

I still believe that is what Jones should do if he were smart. If he is going to fire Phillips, do it before the season ends and give Garrett an audition. If he does not handle it well, move on to a better veteran coach in 2010.

Baseless thoughts...

 

[wileedog]

I still believe that is what Jones should do if he were smart. If he is going to fire Phillips, do it before the season ends and give Garrett an audition. If he does not handle it well, move on to a better veteran coach in 2010.

Agree 100%, especially with Reeves in a 'consulting' position to provide the training wheels.

A lame duck year of Wade makes little sense at this point.

2010 could also have a bonanza of Shanahan, Holmgren and Cowher all looking to throw their hat back in too. Might as well find out what Garret has before then.

 

[Alexander]

Baseless thoughts...

No, it is an opinion. What I think someone should do is not saying anything close to what if think they will do. Thank you for playing though. You gave it a slugger's try. Keep hacking away and you might actually make contact.

 

[Alexander]

A lame duck year of Wade makes little sense at this point.

By all accounts, he has already committed to Phillips. What I was saying is that if that's the case and things fall apart, it makes more sense to have Garrett as an interim coach if he indeed is still the golden boy. It makes little sense to have Reeves take over if we intend to give Garrett the reigns at any time in the future. It is not fair to him or doing Garrett much good.

2010 could also have a bonanza of Shanahan, Holmgren and Cowher all looking to throw their hat back in too. Might as well find out what Garret has before then.

All the more reason not to install Reeves as an interim coach. If he is though of that highly, give him his opportunity. Then if not, then move along in 2010 with one of the names you mentioned. Otherwise, there is prone to be some remorse, especially if Garrett leaves which I am sure he would if he was not offered a promotion.

 

[DasTex]

If you really want to stretch the conspiracy theory -

February 25, 1989 - the date that many Cowboys fans will remember - when Jerry bought the team and fired a legend.

Could 20 years later - Feb. 25, 2009 - the coach that most fans wanted to replace Tom Landry, be hired to lead the team into the new stadium??

 

[wileedog]

By all accounts, he has already committed to Phillips.

I thought we were talking about what he would do if he were smart?

I'd roll the dice now if you can get a Reeves as a consultant, and possible interim coach if Garrett flounders completely. That goes double if you can get a quality DC in here to take over.

Jerry has already committed several million dollars with the idea that Garrett would be HC. Two other teams last year and almost a third this year thought he was ready. You've got a competent backup in place (and who knows, Reeves could be retained long term next year, he's not a bad option even compared to the other three except for his age and health), and you have your insurance next year if it all goes to heck. Most of all you don'thave this HC in waiting shadowing every other coaching move you want to make.

Why march out more of the same with Wade again?

 

[khiladi]

Here's another possibility:

Jones is gonna keep Wade Phillips on as the Head Coach for now, but Maybe Jones is hedging his bet by bringing in Reeves to have him available to be an interim coach if the wheels fall off again. In the meantime, he can get Reeves' advice and Wade can get his help in putting together a more disciplined program.
It's a win win situation provided we start winning again:laugh2:

Dan Reeves was brought in by Jerry, on the insistence of Wade.

 

[jobberone]

Makes perfect sense to me to bring Reeves here as a consultant. Why pay Wade's salary and basically lose your DC at the same time? And if Garrett were ready then we wouldn't do anything. Let Garrett be the 'consultant' and the asst HC and OC. Garrett and Wade have lost the team at least some esp Garrett. Bringing in Reeves on the cheap (relative to HC pay) makes perfect sense. It's a slap in the face to Wade and to Jerry but I can't say they don't deserve it.

If the owner and coaches give Reeves his due respect then the players will IMO esp with his skins. And it also gets Jerry off the hook if they fire TO as it will be his 'consultants' advice. And also Jerry looks smart hiring an asst GM if he gives him some teeth.

 

[CF74]

No, it is an opinion. What I think someone should do is not saying anything close to what if think they will do. Thank you for playing though. You gave it a slugger's try. Keep hacking away and you might actually make contact.

Whateva.:clubbed:

Dan Reeves was brought in by Jerry, on the insistence of Wade.

Link???

 

[DWhite Fan]

I was all for Reeves being hired until I watched the 30 minute highlight show of SB V on the NFL Network the other night. It reminded me that Reeves had BOTH hands on the final pass Morton threw that ended up being picked off by the Colts and lead to Baltimore kicking the winning field goal. No excuse for Dan not chatching that football!

Now, I say heck no to him being hired!

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[Wrangler87]

If Reeves comes here TO is a goner.

We can only hope.

 

[Wrangler87]

Dan Reeves was brought in by Jerry, on the insistence of Wade.

Wade is in no position to insist anything.

 

[jazzcat22]

Reeves announces he wants to get back into coaching, gets at least one offer we know of to be OC and turns that down. His name apparently had surfaced in one or two other cities as well.

Reports emerge he is leaning towards accepting a "consultant" role with the Cowboys.

DMN reports today that any announcement will not occur until AFTER the Super Bowl. FWST"s Gil Lebreton makes it seem like a done deal that Reeves is coming here.

Things have been awfully quiet at VR since that Philly debacle, and Jones refuses to publicly discuss Wade or Jason Garrett in Mobile last week. Wade refuses to speak at all.

So if Reeves is only coming as a "consultant" or psuedo-GM as some have suggested, why does Jones feel compelled to wait until AFTER the Super Bowl to make it official? It's not an attention grabber or distraction from the Super Bowl, which we know the league doesnt like. Other teams have hired personnel people (ie, Pats w/ Floyd Reese) and asst coaches (multiple teams)

Maybe Reeves isnt coming to be a "consultant" at all. Maybe he's coming to assume the HC job, with Wade moving to DC. And who knows, maybe it was Wade's idea. Wade and Dan have a great working relationship and they really like and respect each other.

OK, maybe its just the fact I've had no caffeine yet, but it all does seem a little strange to me.

no caffeine...was alcohol involved somehow?