Cooks Deal Elucidates Point I've Made About Jones' Ownership

[Jarntt]

Jones front office is 1.8x more intelligent in decisions than the garden variety critic around here.

Still doesn't fix cultural issues where Jerry undermines accountability. Still doesn't fix never-ending-below-average-head-coach selections. Still doesn't address Goodell's trained zebras running as trained.

Which basically means they are 3x dumber than any legit NFL front office...

 

[Flamma]

I have literally never heard or seen that word used in my life. I had to look that one up.

I think the OP was watching a sesame street rerun, or something like that and that was the word of the day. If I saw that word without context, I'd think it lubricated something.

 

[blueblood70]

The Jones ownership may well have made the correct decision, but it's not a sure thing. I wanted Cooks more than any WR on the free agent market (including Beckham) so I was very pleased with the signing. But Beckham if he can return to form is a step above Cooks. It's a gamble by the Ravens which could lead to the SB or will be go down as an expensive mistake. Sometimes you have to take those gambles.

Hes not a step above, hasnt been for some time , we got the more consistent and healthier bet and their skillsets are nearly identical. idc what OBJ was 5 years ago. Cooks has been uber consistent and that what we need , recent history says Cooks is the best choice, you are severely underrating cooks because he doesn't have to SM and "star" power that elevates OBJ and overrates his abilities over his actual talent.

cooper , cooks, OBJ all the same players production wise for their careers., there truly no difference other than HYPE. OBJ is being elevated over his hype star power.

 

[XXLMike]

Googles
“Elucidates”

 

[blueblood70]

The media begrudgingly gave the Cowboys credit for the Cooks trade. I am stunned that media seems to think the Ravens should have overpaid for OBJ. Two ACLs in two years……..

3 acls in 5 years 2 tot he same leg. he also brings a bit too much hype and media attention to a players who not a #1 anymore. We got the better fit for us and do not lose step in production between the 2.

 

[NotForLong]

It is a joke from a comment Dallas LB years ago. Darren Hambrick.

I hope that "elucidates" that for you.

Oh ok I got you

 

[tunahelper]

The Jones ownership may well have made the correct decision, but it's not a sure thing. I wanted Cooks more than any WR on the free agent market (including Beckham) so I was very pleased with the signing. But Beckham if he can return to form is a step above Cooks. It's a gamble by the Ravens which could lead to the SB or will be go down as an expensive mistake. Sometimes you have to take those gambles.

Maybe a step above 3-4 years ago, but now injuries have taken his elite level play away. OBJ is living off the past and he is shell of what he once was. Now he is the undisputed heavy weight champion party favor consumer, so he still has that title secured.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

In summary, OBJ gets $15 million with $18 million potential in a deal negotiated by Zeke Sandhu.

Beckham hasn't averaged more than 65 yards per game since 2018.

Cooks broke 1,000 yards in 2,020 and 2021, and we signed him for $12 million, even though he has a proven history of production in recent years, minus the injury.

While defending my reason for supporting the job the current Jones ownership is doing, I've said that I like what they're doing a lot because of what they have not done, such as signing OBJ in this case, when they could get Cooks for as much as $6 million less.

Our fans will say this is cheap. I call it being prudent.

LINK: https://thelandryhat.com/2023/04/10/odell-beckham-jr-contract-details-ravens-cowboys-brandin-cooks/

They’re cheap…and have been bargain bin shopping.

But I’ll say this…a lot of teams are doing the same. How much big money deals are being handed out by contenders? Maybe this approach was right all along?

It’s worth noting though they signing guys to less deals then Gilmore and Cooks got and expected them to sign. First year it’s worked

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This was one example of a solid decision when it comes to WRs. Trust me when I tell you I can make a list of at least 5 other WR related decisions over the years that were franchise crippling.

You could. But the important thing is to realize they’ve learned from their mistakes and same to be doing smarter business moves.

 

[blueblood70]

They’re cheap…and have been bargain bin shopping.

But I’ll say this…a lot of teams are doing the same. How much big money deals are being handed out by contenders? Maybe this approach was right all along?

It’s worth noting though they signing guys to less deals then Gilmore and Cooks got and expected them to sign. First year it’s worked

Not the first we got starting safeties the same way Hooker and Kearse are vital to our D..Hankins resigning also in that convo ie like last year.., imagine if TY was here from game 1 would have been a lot better IMO.. other team do do this .. I mean the all in isn't a blue print and hardly used.. the way JJ does things is more normal. look at last year both sides og the spectrum made it to a sb but the team who did far less in the offseason didn't sign any bog name FAS lost 2 great payers won sb against the team that made all the moves.

fine line maybe walk the middle at times is the best approach.

 

[INCowboysFan]

The Jones ownership may well have made the correct decision, but it's not a sure thing. I wanted Cooks more than any WR on the free agent market (including Beckham) so I was very pleased with the signing. But Beckham if he can return to form is a step above Cooks. It's a gamble by the Ravens which could lead to the SB or will be go down as an expensive mistake. Sometimes you have to take those gambles.

Beckham, not matter how well he plays, is not going to lead Baltimore to the Super Bowl. they are way more than a WR away from getting there

 

[gtb1943]

3 acls in 5 years 2 tot he same leg. he also brings a bit too much hype and media attention to a players who not a #1 anymore. We got the better fit for us and do not lose step in production between the 2.

Too many risks with OBJ. Simple as that. I think the Ravens front office has steadily deteriorated for several years.

 

[WoodysGirl]

~googles Elucidate

 

[Nova]

The Cooks trade was great.

The problem, for me, is that their prudence often hampers the present and prevents us from getting over the hump in the playoffs.

What's more concerning to me, is that the last time they prioritized the present with the acquisition of Amari Cooper, it was in order to save a failing season, (we were 3-4 at the time of the trade).

Yet they don't make many moves to help the team in years that we are on the verge of being true contenders.

I question the philosophy, and also, the intent.

 

[kskboys]

In summary, OBJ gets $15 million with $18 million potential in a deal negotiated by Zeke Sandhu.

Beckham hasn't averaged more than 65 yards per game since 2018.

Cooks broke 1,000 yards in 2,020 and 2021, and we signed him for $12 million, even though he has a proven history of production in recent years, minus the injury.

While defending my reason for supporting the job the current Jones ownership is doing, I've said that I like what they're doing a lot because of what they have not done, such as signing OBJ in this case, when they could get Cooks for as much as $6 million less.

Our fans will say this is cheap. I call it being prudent.

LINK: https://thelandryhat.com/2023/04/10/odell-beckham-jr-contract-details-ravens-cowboys-brandin-cooks/

In this case, I agree. Cooks is a better player than OBJ at this point in their careers.

 

[kskboys]

What does elucidate mean? Not Do

I think you don't get out much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kskboys]

I prefer the Cooks deal than Beckham.
Letting Lamb grow without Cooper & now having Cooks as the clear WR2 should make for a better duo overall, even though Cooper is probably better than Cooks. Cooks’ skillset is a nice fit as a high end WR2, which is what this team needed.

If you include injury in the comparison, he is not.

 

[jterrell]

The Jones ownership may well have made the correct decision, but it's not a sure thing. I wanted Cooks more than any WR on the free agent market (including Beckham) so I was very pleased with the signing. But Beckham if he can return to form is a step above Cooks. It's a gamble by the Ravens which could lead to the SB or will be go down as an expensive mistake. Sometimes you have to take those gambles.

Not sure what makes you say this but it simply isn't true.

OBJ is a good WR talent with very real concerns and issues.
His play has been below WR1 level for 6 years now.
He has totaled 850 yards receiving in the last 3 regular seasons (missing all of last year).

He is never returning to 23 year old OLB. And hasn't been there in a long, long time.
He hasn't even averaged 50 yards per game since 2019.

I am SHOCKED he got that much money.
I truly figured he'd sign for like 5-6M GTD with a lot of escalators.
12M GTD that can rise to 15M for 1 year is nuts.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I am SHOCKED he got that much money.
I truly figured he'd sign for like 5-6M GTD with a lot of escalators.
12M GTD that can rise to 15M for 1 year is nuts.

I think it’s not as bad as it seems, it’s just hard to conceive of how big the salary gaps are getting between the best players vs middling starters due to salary cap inflation.

Consider Amari Cooper’s 20m$ AAV deal 3-4 years ago. At the time he was second highest paid WR who ever lived. In that era, an above average starter making 10m$(half AC) may have been a little high, but it wasn’t outrageous. The comparison is the same today; the highest paid WR is making 30m$ AAV now. Within that ratio, a Ceedee Lamb is worth 23m$ AAV, a Christian Kirk is worth 19m$ AAV, and the hope an Odell Beckham will find some semblance of his former self is worth 15m.

 

[CowboyRoy]

In summary, OBJ gets $15 million with $18 million potential in a deal negotiated by Zeke Sandhu.

Beckham hasn't averaged more than 65 yards per game since 2018.

Cooks broke 1,000 yards in 2,020 and 2021, and we signed him for $12 million, even though he has a proven history of production in recent years, minus the injury.

While defending my reason for supporting the job the current Jones ownership is doing, I've said that I like what they're doing a lot because of what they have not done, such as signing OBJ in this case, when they could get Cooks for as much as $6 million less.

Our fans will say this is cheap. I call it being prudent.

LINK: https://thelandryhat.com/2023/04/10/odell-beckham-jr-contract-details-ravens-cowboys-brandin-cooks/

Great move by cowboys. MM I think has a lot to do with these smart decisions.