Cooper Gallup Beckham Jr

[3rdEyewarrior]

A few things.

I wanted Schultz gone so I don't know what you are even talking about.
I understood why they brought him back. Solid player on a franchise deal for one year. No issues there.
What in the hell has Cooper done? You Coop lovers who have come out of the wood work told me that once Watson comes back he'll look like a true #1 again....

10 catches 140 yards and 0 touchdowns...this is y'all hero? This is who y'all cry about?

Watson hasn’t been good so far.

 

[lukemartin79]

So let me get this right we paid a guy with a bum knees almost what we coulda paid Cooper and now we are looking to pay another guy with a bad knee which would put us well over what Cooper woulda cost, and in the mean time I’m watching the 5th WR get 10 targets. Is that correct?

Add to that - they practically gave Cooper away in the trade too.

 

[3rdEyewarrior]

Add to that - they practically gave Cooper away in the trade too.

It seemed personal.

 

[XXLMike]

So let me get this right we paid a guy with a bum knees almost what we coulda paid Cooper and now we are looking to pay another guy with a bad knee which would put us well over what Cooper woulda cost, and in the mean time I’m watching the 5th WR get 10 targets. Is that correct?

It’s on Will McClay / talent evaluation department

 

[buybuydandavis]

If you add Shultz, though, it's about even.

Cooper has more yards and TDs than both Shultz and Gallup combined

That's the comparison. Money on receivers.
Cooper is a little less money and a lot more talent than the two combined.

 

[Creeper]

How would ya like to be Tennessee and traded AJ Brown

Or Gb and traded Devante Adams

What a bunch of ignorance.

Tyreek hill I can understand

But you get a great player and you sign him to long term contract early.

Cooper coulda been signed for 15 million per yr. Schultz coulda been signed for Jarwin money. Pollard will be the next bad decision. Bad Cap mgmt imo

Now we just have a 6-7 TD a year #1 wr. I personally wouldn't break the bank on a wr that couldn't hit his head on the goalpost but that's me

Cooper supposedly had an offer of $22 million per year from Washington. He took less money to stay in Dallas.

 

[CowboysExchange]

Cooper supposedly had an offer of $22 million per year from Washington. He took less money to stay in Dallas.

we coulda signed him way earlier too. But we always wait until the last minute and overpaid at 20 per year

 

[CowboysExchange]

That's the comparison. Money on receivers.
Cooper is a little less money and a lot more talent than the two combined.

And we paid Washington and Now Ty Hilton and also used draft capital and $$$ on Jalen Tolbert

Plus Schultz and Gallop turned back into pumpkins the minute Cooper Left

And we're still not even close to the same talent.

 

[CowboysExchange]

A few things.

I wanted Schultz gone so I don't know what you are even talking about.
I understood why they brought him back. Solid player on a franchise deal for one year. No issues there.
What in the hell has Cooper done? You Coop lovers who have come out of the wood work told me that once Watson comes back he'll look like a true #1 again....

10 catches 140 yards and 0 touchdowns...this is y'all hero? This is who y'all cry about?

no issues w Schultz??? He turned back into a 3-4 TD a year te the minute Cooper Left. Just as I said he would regress. Go back and look at the posts

Schultz was still a big non factor when he had 8 tds LMAO

There was at least 6 fa tes that signed for 5 million or less.

Cooper was the top wr on the team last year. And drew more top defenders and double teams

And we had a sorry running attack for the last half of the season aka one legged zeke which made us one dimensional alot

And our defense was way better this year until the injuries piled up just recently.

I was never a huge Cooper fan but I'd rather have Coop, Lamb and Pollard and all the rest of our skilled players were just complimentary pieces and easily replaceable Jags imo.

Even if ya think Lamb is Equal to Cooper (and I'd give Coop a tiny edge rn) it's still a huge dropoff

Also Cooper is back on grass. And playing on grass is way different than playing on turf

So I couldn't compare Cooper in Cleveland to Cooper in Dallas.

Playing on grass transfers better over to turf than going from turf to grass.

That's why we have 3 losses in 4 games on grass btw

 

[CowboysExchange]

Actually We're 0-3 on grass fields this year. I thought the Rams played on grass

We lost to GB, Philly, and Jacksonville on grass this year.

Grass is our Kryptonite

 

[buybuydandavis]

I was never a huge Cooper fan but I'd rather have Coop, Lamb and Pollard and all the rest of our skilled players were just complimentary pieces and easily replaceable Jags imo.

I was a huge Cooper fan. Less so last year, but he was still "the stick that stirred the drink".

I could see letting him go to reduce cap hit on the offensive skills players, but we *didn't* do that, we spent Cooper's money and a little more on Gallup and Schulz. Schulz an ok to good TE, and Gallup an ok WR#2 coming off injury.

Very replaceable guys. That's not just theory. PFF *already* rates Ferguson higher than Schulz, and Hendershott is only slightly behind both, while Noah is only slightly behind Gallup.
The full range of those guys are Hendershott at 62.3 to Ferguson at 66.4. But the full range of their *cap hits* are more like a full order of magnitude.

 

[CowboysExchange]

I was a huge Cooper fan. Less so last year, but he was still "the stick that stirred the drink".

I could see letting him go to reduce cap hit on the offensive skills players, but we *didn't* do that, we spent Cooper's money and a little more on Gallup and Schulz. Schulz an ok to good TE, and Gallup an ok WR#2 coming off injury.

Very replaceable guys. That's not just theory. PFF *already* rates Ferguson higher than Schulz, and Hendershott is only slightly behind both, while Noah is only slightly behind Gallup.
The full range of those guys are Hendershott at 62.3 to Ferguson at 66.4. But the full range of their *cap hits* are more like a full order of magnitude.

Exactly. I totally agree

Coop had better speed, sure hands, and ran more precision deep routes which opened up more for everybody else

It's not just about production. It's about what kind of coverage you're drawing away from everybody else too. And how good ya are in the clutch and at scoring

I'd say CeeDee has an edge in the slot and going up for balls but he doesn't have the route precision to get the separation and open things up like Coop yet at least not now

The only real player addition to our offense is Tyler Smith and we lost tyron for almost the whole season. And those rookie tes and Jarwin pretty much even out. All our tes are pretty much just JAGs/Non Factors at this point Nobody worth over $5 million imo

Sure our oline run blocking got better than it was at the end of the year.

Just scheming around Pollard as a main weapon has been all the difference this year. But we could have done that these past 2 years when we had Coop. Imo

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Watson hasn’t been good so far.

Well I was told Brissett sucked….I guess Watson is worse than him now?

 

[buybuydandavis]

It's not just about production. It's about what kind of coverage you're drawing away from everybody else too. And how good ya are in the clutch and at scoring

Yep. Evaluate a WR by Production *and* Coverage Drawn.

Any teams doubling Lamb *instead* of Cooper? Don't think so.

Cooper drew double coverage *and* produced.

 

[Creeper]

And we paid Washington and Now Ty Hilton and also used draft capital and $$$ on Jalen Tolbert

Plus Schultz and Gallop turned back into pumpkins the minute Cooper Left

And we're still not even close to the same talent.

I am pretty sure Washington and Hilton will not be back next year. Tolbert needs to step up. But his failure means Dallas will probably use another high draft pick on a WR.

But if I was Dallas I would stop worrying about the WR position right now and get focused on DT. I would use my top 2 draft picks on DTs if two solid prospects are available.

 

[CowboysExchange]

I am pretty sure Washington and Hilton will not be back next year. Tolbert needs to step up. But his failure means Dallas will probably use another high draft pick on a WR.

But if I was Dallas I would stop worrying about the WR position right now and get focused on DT. I would use my top 2 draft picks on DTs if two solid prospects are available.

The biggest problem I have with this offense is the Wrs and Tes can't score tds very often. Esp against good defenses.

If our rbs don't score 2 tds a game we're almost guaranteed a Big L

 

[CowboysExchange]

Yep. Evaluate a WR by Production *and* Coverage Drawn.

Any teams doubling Lamb *instead* of Cooper? Don't think so.

Cooper drew double coverage *and* produced.

Coop caught 6 passes and scored the first TD in the last playoff game. Actually scored the first td in the last 2 p/o games

Lamb only caught 1 pass last year

No other rbs or wrs scored a point (just Dak)

The run game got shut down the last 2 games and we went one dimensional quickly

But it's Coop that didn't show up hmmm

 

[3rdEyewarrior]

Well I was told Brissett sucked….I guess Watson is worse than him now?

He s rusty. He’ll go back to being a top 5 qb. It might not happen until next season though.

 

[Creeper]

The biggest problem I have with this offense is the Wrs and Tes can't score tds very often. Esp against good defenses.

If our rbs don't score 2 tds a game we're almost guaranteed a Big L

I am okay with averaging 28 points a game as long as we stop giving up 40.