Cooper Rush is now 7-3 as Cowboys starting QB

[G2]

Then what are we talking about?

It's simple. There are a handful of roster changes over that last few weeks where fill ins are playing fresh and productive. And, some players who've come back, who were needed.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Man, you gotta understand. There's only maybe 3-5 QBs in the NFL who can peruse the field at a really high level. Cooper Rush has a very rare skill, but lacks the arm strength to be a starter.

You're so used to the ultra stupid Dak fighting that you're trying to put this in that sort of fight. It's not about Dak vs Rush, it's about what skillset each has. Rush has a skillset that Dak doesn't in his ability to see the field. You can't spin that away no matter how hard you try. I just wish Rush had Dak's arm.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone even my biggest enemy.
Noodle is inaccurate and let us not forget he needs to wind it up for a pass over 30 yards................whew you really must hate howdy doodie Rush man.

 

[kskboys]

It's simple. There are a handful of roster changes over that last few weeks where fill ins are playing fresh and productive. And, some players who've come back, who were needed.

And an O that is getting rid of the ball much quicker. If you don't see that, it's because you don't want to.

 

[kskboys]

I wouldn't wish that on anyone even my biggest enemy.
Noodle is inaccurate and let us not forget he needs to wind it up for a pass over 30 yards................whew you really must hate howdy doodie Rush man.

Guess I should've said arm strength. Sorry, that's what I meant.

Your response is quite silly, BTW, as w/ the slightest bit of thought you could've seen what I was saying.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Because the roster has changed? Be as condescending as you want, I couldn't care less. If you don't understand what changes there has been, then you're either a casual fan or trolling.
The team plays different because the team is different. This isn't hard.

IS that your answer? For real? You should be on ESPN.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

And an O that is getting rid of the ball much quicker. If you don't see that, it's because you don't want to.

Thank you. They guy is purposely dancing around one of the MAIN and critical roster differences.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Guess I should've said arm strength. Sorry, that's what I meant.

Your response is quite silly, BTW, as w/ the slightest bit of thought you could've seen what I was saying.

I think some people might think it's a bit immature and...well "not cool" to disparage our own players and coaches. I knew what you meant, but it can come off differently depending on mood and who is all piling on. I think "fat" might qualify as well...as some people have medical reasons for being ...big.

But then, I know AND have been told I'm an overly-sensitive dweeb.

I look for context to discern the difference...and you had it.

 

[kskboys]

I think some people might think it's a bit immature and...well "not cool" to disparage our own players and coaches. I knew what you meant, but it can come off differently depending on mood and who is all piling on. I think "fat" might qualify as well...as some people have medical reasons for being ...big.

But then, I know AND have been told I'm an overly-sensitive dweeb.

I look for context to discern the difference...and you had it.

Well, I should've known better than to engage w/ the Dakspatters anyway. Each side spins anything anyone says in a weird little attempt to support their agenda. And they have no idea they're doing it!!!

 

[DIAF]

And an O that is getting rid of the ball much quicker. If you don't see that, it's because you don't want to.

The offense is getting rid of the ball quicker, but.......

taking a deeper look into the stats it MAY not be all that much of a difference maker.

Time to throw (TT) is tracked by NFL Next Gen Stats and is defined as the average amount of time, from snap to throw, that a QB takes - excluding sacks.

Faster TT is not necessarily a positive metric by itself, though. TT must be read along with other stats, like completion percentage and expected completion percentage, air yards vs intended air yards, air yards to the sticks (1st down marker), etc. to give you the full picture of what an offense is doing. For some context, the QB with the slowest TT in the NFL is a guy who is going to be getting MVP votes, Lamar Jackson. Jalen Hurts is 2nd slowest at getting the ball out. Purdy, Bo Nix, Justin Herbert, Russell Wilson, CJ Stroud are all in the top 10 slowest TT, with Mahomes right behind them. It doesn't mean they hold on to the ball too long, rather that they have stronger OLs that allow them to hold on to the ball longer. All of them are close to even or in the positive in Completion % vs. Intended Completion %. That's good.

Cooper Rush is 2nd quickest in the NFL in TT, right behind Tua. So the Dallas offense is getting the ball out quicker since he's been the QB, as you would expect a coaching staff to do with the backup QB in to maximize his chances of success with a not so good OL. You would think this would mean making higher percentage, safer throws. But Cooper Rush (or rather, the Dallas offense under Cooper since this is not all on him) has a -6% deficit in completion percentage (60.5%) vs expected completion percentage (66.5%), and an AGG% of a WHOPPING 21.1%. That's not good. In fact, it's third-worst in the NFL. Aggressiveness, or AGG%, is defined as the amount of passing attempts a quarterback makes that are into tight coverage, where there is a defender within 1 yard or less of the receiver at the time of completion or incompletion. This is a combination of receivers not getting seperation and QB making bad decisions to throw to them. AGG is shown as a % of attempts into tight windows over all passing attempts. So this means that although the Dallas offense is getting the ball out quicker, it's still making risky throws and not capitalizing on what should be higher % passes.

Dak Prescott, or the Dallas Cowboys offense under Dak Prescott, has a TT of 2.79. So a good bit slower at getting the ball out. AGG% is about the same at 21.3 which makes sense since Dallas has all of 1 receiver who can get seperation. There is a pretty sizeable difference in completion percentage vs expected completion percentage. The Dak Prescott offense is FAR better in this regard than the Cooper Rush offense - 64.7% completion percentage vs 63.5% expected completion percentage - for a POSITIVE 1.2% over expected. This will be pretty surprising to most people on the board, you would have thought the Dak Prescott version of this offense to be worse.

So what does this tell us? That even though the Cooper Rush offense is getting the ball out quicker, the results are in terms of the effect it has on the passing game is largely NIL. Instead, the difference probably lies with what the other team's defenses are doing rather than anything the Dallas passing game has done. The last two weeks have featured games vs. a team on a MASSIVE downswing, the Commanders, and one of the NFL's worst teams in the Giants. I would expect these numbers to be similar through the rest of the schedule honestly looking at who we face.

I've linked the NFL Next Gen stats site above so you can click on it and look at the numbers yourself. I know that this post is gonna be followed up with BU BU BU BUT EYETEST and IF YOU GOTTA EXPLAIN STATS THEN THEY MUST BE FAKE!!! kind of posts (or just straight up ignored because a lot of ppl aren't gonna want to hear FACTS) but raw data in conjunction with other raw data and not just in a vacuum rarely lies.

 

[G2]

And an O that is getting rid of the ball much quicker. If you don't see that, it's because you don't want to.

They're protecting the QB and running the ball better, of course I see it. You guys can keep making everything about Dak, I am not.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Well, I should've known better than to engage w/ the Dakspatters anyway. Each side spins anything anyone says in a weird little attempt to support their agenda. And they have no idea they're doing it!!!

And we await your guidance for clarity to be achieved at its highest level.

Please man your Mod Power days don't apply here.......................

 

[G2]

Thank you. They guy is purposely dancing around one of the MAIN and critical roster differences.

I wasn't talking about Dak, Dak is out for the season. If you guys honestly think that's the main reason the team played a decent game, that's insane.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I wasn't talking about Dak, Dak is out for the season. If you guys honestly think that's the main reason the team played a decent game, that's insane.

You are refusing to really answer the question. If the team is playing different, fine. In fact that's what I said. Why? How? Who is playing differently? 2nd stringers? You are playing quite coy....it's unbecoming.

Ironic that you think my question is only about Dak.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

They're protecting the QB and running the ball better, of course I see it. You guys can keep making everything about Dak, I am not.

No, you are.

 

[KJJ]

This is why nobody likes Dak and his fans

Anyone who doesn’t like the fans that support Dak might want to take a break from football. It’s strange that anyone would have a personal vendetta against the fans that support Dak. If you don’t like him that’s fine but you shouldn’t take out your frustrations on the fans that support him.

 

[Proof]

Purdy will be a great test case for a team to tell a decent QB, who isn’t remotely close to being elite, who also wants to reset the FA market (not sure if Purdy is in this mindset) to go pound sand. Remember that Purdy was in the MVP conversation last year, along with Dak, and his agent can make similar arguments to those Dak’s agent made. Better even, given Purdy’s playoff success. If Purdy wants to reset the market, I’d love SF to kick him to the curb. It might stop the lunacy.

i feel like the niners falling a part this year is the absolute best thing possible for them, and they will likely get purdy at a very reasonable bill as a result. between their seasons shortcomings, his poor play, and dak's situation, they have all the leverage in the world to strong arm him. may even be in position to draft a replacement, or w/ shannahan and the litany of journeymen qb's outplaying their status, just grab a guy.

 

[Proof]

Agreed. So...what is it that makes people rag on him?

Some how...magically...the D plays better when he is in? SOMEHOW...there's a running game suddenly when he is in? A VERY odd...coincidence.

yeah, it is odd that when the best players on the defense return, the defense plays better. someone should study this phenomenon.

 

[Proof]

I loathe the Niners and hope they pay Purdy everything his agent asks for and more.

unfortunately i think they get him at a bargain, and have solid draft slotting to boot. my biggest fear this offseason is them picking right before us.

 

[Proof]

Rush is probably near the middle to low end of back up QBs. I wouldn't say bottom trash tier though as he can obviously get wins.

No arm strength, even less mobility than Dak, bad accuracy deep. However he does read the defense better and gets the ball out quicker. Just to limited outside that.

I would say minus the first game of his the team seems to play better with him in the game . Like their sick and tired of Dak.

Daks contract is a disaster. Dumbest decision by the front office in a long time. I honestly believe we would of had similar success with a baker mayfield type of quarterback and contract for half the price with the amount of talent we have surrounded Dak with

this is honestly where I'm at currently. I have admittedly been in the losing Dak for nothing would be a mistake crowd, but between Baker, and Darnold, and Geno, and Jameis, (and rush to a certain extent) it's the most capable I've seen the journeymen look in quite some time. Can't help but wonder ...

 

[Proof]

rush will get better the more he plays.

i have a sneaking suspicion this will not be the case.