Cop arresting a 77 year old Grandmother

[MonsterD]

Interesting, in this video(scroll down on page) her grandaughter(the blonde woman) says at 10:20 that the officer had her ID in his hand. I still don't see it.

 

[Kangaroo]

It should have nothing to do with your attitude (which is protected free speech); police officers should not be deciding whom to arrest or how to act based on some personal feeling of being respected or disrespected, but should follow standard procedures and constitutionally approved laws.

She refused to show her license and it is the same thing if you refuse to sign the ticket they can detain you and arrest you. He did not violate her due process or act out of his legal authority.

 

[joseephuss]

She refused to show he license and it is the same thing if you refuse to sign the ticket they can detain you and arrest you. He did not violate her due process or act out of his legal authority.

Nope, legally he did nothing wrong. I think he could have handled the situation a little differently. I think she could have, too. She was being a pain in the rear for no reason. Just get your drivers license out and give it to the cop. I don't know what his rush was. Sure she refused, but there is no hurry to take the next step and arrest her. Slow down and try a new angle of trying to get her to cooperate. If then she doesn't show her license, then proceed to the next step.

This type of stuff is not a common occurrence. There will always be a few jerks in any group, but that doesn't make every cop a bad guy or even the majority of them. I don't even think it is a large minority of police officers that act like jerks. I've never had a bad run in with law enforcement.

 

[Kangaroo]

Nope, legally he did nothing wrong. I think he could have handled the situation a little differently. I think she could have, too. She was being a pain in the rear for no reason. Just get your drivers license out and give it to the cop. I don't know what his rush was. Sure she refused, but there is no hurry to take the next step and arrest her. Slow down and try a new angle of trying to get her to cooperate. If then she doesn't show her license, then proceed to the next step.

This type of stuff is not a common occurrence. There will always be a few jerks in any group, but that doesn't make every cop a bad guy or even the majority of them. I don't even think it is a large minority of police officers that act like jerks. I've never had a bad run in with law enforcement.

In the same instances they are human, just like when people on this board have bad days. It still comes back to peoples lack of manners. Exercise them not because you have to but because you should want to apply them in life.

 

[03EBZ06]

I think both acted somewhat irrationally.

She displayed bit of attitude and the cop displayed impatience. It shouldn't have escalated to arrest in 19 seconds for a routine traffic stop, when there wasn't any imminent threat to that cop.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

What's the problem? She told him to go ahead and he obliged.


Request granted! :laugh2:

 

[DallasCowpoke]

when there wasn't any imminent threat to that cop.

How does he know that? The first thing when he walks up to the car is is her telling him "we need to hurry this up". If I'm an officer and the person immediately tells me what I need to do, that would send the message that A: you're going to be uncooperative, and B: why?

How does he know, in the back of that huge SUV, there's not some guy w/ a shotgun and a load of cash, drugs or whatnot, just waiting to raise up and pump a round in my chest?

Then the SECOND she told him "no", all bets are off.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Ok, but what about if you show a cop NOTHING but respect, and he's still a dick? That's all i get where I live.

I agree man. The cops in Texas take ******baggery to another level.

I still rememeber one time a cop told me to step out of the car because he thought I was illegal. :laugh2:

I told him I'm just Hispanic and a few other choice words.

 

[03EBZ06]

How does he know that? The first thing when he walks up to the car is is her telling him "we need to hurry this up". If I'm a officer and the person immediately tells me what I need to do, that would send the message that A: you're going to be uncooperative, and B: why?

How does he know, in the back of that huge SUV, there's not some guy w/ a shotgun and a load of cash, drugs or whatnot, just waiting to raise up and pump a round in my chest?

Then the SECOND she told him "no", all bets are off.

Just what threat did she pose? Did she threaten him at all? Was she disrespectful, yes, did she say anything to warrant any threat? NO

As for who could be in the van, it is his job to ensure there wasn't any threat when approaching a vehicle.

We could play what if game all we want but the fact is, she didn't pose any threat toward the cop, she was being bit uncooperative.

If anything that cop's emotional behavior got better of him because she didn't listen to him.

 

[KLJ]

while he might not have done anything illegal, he was a total d-bag and completely over-reacted.

sadly, it seems most people think this is perfectly acceptable behavior from cops.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

while he might not have done anything illegal, he was a total d-bag and completely over-reacted.

sadly, it seems most people think this is perfectly acceptable behavior from cops.

She could have easily prevented it by not being a d-bag herself. Why should she get a free pass when she was ignoring an incredibly simple and fully expected request?

 

[WV Cowboy]

The policeman was polite at first, doing his duty, saying what he was supposed to say, went by the rules, .. she was the one that turned this whole traffic stop into what it became.

Not the policeman.

Who knows what other garbage the guy had to deal with throughout the day, .. she may have just been the last straw.

My approach is "kill'em with kindness", ... it has served me well many times. From no ticket at all, to a warning, or even lowering the speed that I was over the limit to reduce my fine.

I have no idea why anyone would take her approach.

 

[KLJ]

She could have easily prevented it by not being a d-bag herself. Why should she get a free pass when she was ignoring an incredibly simple and fully expected request?

she was being a d-bag and i wasn't trying to give her a free pass. i just expect more professionalism from civil servants than i do from the idiot public.

maybe i shouldn't.

 

[arglebargle]

In the same instances they are human, just like when people on this board have bad days. It still comes back to peoples lack of manners. Exercise them not because you have to but because you should want to apply them in life.

When I have a bad day, I write something dumb on the internet. When a cop has a bad day, someone can get shot, or thrown in jail summarily. (Set up line deployed!)

In the pragmatic and practical sense, you should always be polite, calm, and collected in any dealings with the police. Police are in a position of power and can cause you way more trouble than you can cause them.

Had an incident one night where a rude jerk of an undercover cop swore that he had seen me broke into a car. My car, that I had just opened with my keys. The beat cops who cuffed me were polite, professional, and handled themselves very well. Both sides of the coin in one situation.

Also had a scary experiance where I have had to deal with a Barney Fife type, who was just itching to pull his gun.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Also had a scary experiance where I have had to deal with a Barney Fife type, who was just itching to pull his gun.

Pull his hat down over his eyes, pants him, and run!

:laugh2:

 

[RoyTheHammer]

she was being a d-bag and i wasn't trying to give her a free pass. i just expect more professionalism from civil servants than i do from the idiot public.

maybe i shouldn't.

He was professional when he went up to her. She acted like a d bag and was disrespectful and uncooperative, so he reacted to that. Not sure what you think he should have done here, but if people are going to try and act like they don't have to answer to law enforcement officials, i say you can't throw them in jail fast enough. Ask yourself this..

Do you want to be driving on the same road as someone who acts like that? Im much happier knowing she's off the road at least for a little bit and hopefully got a wake up call by being hauled off to the station.