Mina has Dak 8

[Yobwocs]

I wouldn't care what players were paid if there wasn't a salary cap.

Mayfield has played well outside of Cleveland and Watson had some strong seasons before joining them. I think it illustrates that good/very good quarterbacks are unable to have any success on really bad teams and that's why they have had so many high draft picks.

My philosophy would be to focus on constructing a strong roster and riding a rookie QB contract and then drafting a competent rookie QB again before reaching the point of paying a premium for average QB play. If they have shown themselves to be elite then of course you pay them.

If they are in the Herbert category then it's fair enough for a franchise to pay a quarterback their first big contract.

But someone like Prescott in my view you really can't offer them top dollar given their poor performances on good teams. The 2023 team was of a superbowl calibre in my view and that was the season where it should have confirmed to everyone that Dak isn't good enough to get it done in Dallas.

To offer him a second record breaking contract last year was an absolute back breaker for the team and this will be played out over the next few years regardless of all the good work in the draft and free agency.

The last quarterback to be carried to a Superbowl was Peyton Manning. Ironic given he was one of the best to do it yet he was completely washed when he won in Denver. The Cowboys would have to assemble an elite and consistent defense like that. The elephant in the room is that it's so much easier to construct an elite defense if you aren't paying a limited quarterback like Prescott $60 million a season as you would get the same production from outlaying so much less.

No way to reason to pay Herbert and not Dak. Who's 0-2 in the playoffs and has been here 5 years and threw 4 picks in his last playoff game.

The 2023 team was far from a super bowl team. Team got bashed by the Niners and Bills and that was basically the same team who had their skulls bludgeoned by the Packers. The team that got bashed by the Niners did not just change overnight, they were made of the same DNA of the team that did the same against the Bills, and then went on to do it again with the Packers. That defense was WOEFUL.... not sure Quinn or McCarthy was to blame but they're both both gone now.

 

[gimmesix]

The salary cap is real. If the front office aren't able to manipulate it efficiently then that's on them but having another $30 million would allow them to really attack free agency and keep important players to build a strong roster.

The salary cap is malleable. When it first was introduced, our team didn't know how to manipulate it and got in salary cap hell. Now, teams like Philadelphia show just how much it can be molded and shaped. Our team's choices to not use outside free agency has nothing to do with not having the money to really attack free agency. It has everything to do with the Joneses believing you don't get what you pay for.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Coming off the worst year of his career and some people still see him as #8......

I'm not sure who I should trust here....... objective NFL people or his haters here..... HMH

And yes, he's gonna bounce back this year and get into the Top 5 conversation again

What do you mean? "He's gonna bounce back and get into top 5 conversation...."again"".

Does that mean he doesn't need the "it's a team game" to accomplish it?

Does that mean we get blown out in 1st round of playoffs "again"?

Does that mean you are held accountable for your bold prediction?

What does "coming off his worst year and "some people" (who?)...still see him as #8".

So there are ONLY two sides? "objective NFL people" (like WHO?)...or "haters" (like...WHO?)

Not even half way into the year but this is my nomination for the WORST...most OBTUSE post while thinking you are so clever about it. With all DUE respect of course you are WELCOME to this opinion IF it's sincere. Is it?

 

[ICP]

Who is Mina and why should I care?

Bingo

 

[dacopacabana]

Who is Mina and why should I care?

Oh old timers and the Information Age.

 

[KJJ]

Coming off the worst year of his career and some people still see him as #8......

I'm not sure who I should trust here....... objective NFL people or his haters here..... HMH

And yes, he's gonna bounce back this year and get into the Top 5 conversation again

There was no coolness or calmness about Mahomes in the Super Bowl against Philly or Tampa. If you put it all on any QB it’s going to lead to a disaster against a great team.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

The salary cap is real. If the front office aren't able to manipulate it efficiently then that's on them but having another $30 million would allow them to really attack free agency and keep important players to build a strong roster.

The cap increases every year as well.

Dak's current cap hit on his new contract, adjusted for inflation, equals just a 1.5 percent raise. He's basically costing the Cowboys the same now as he's been costing them the past five years. Makes all this hand wringing over his cap hit kind of a wasted exercise.

 

[Hadenough]

Just like Allan the loser. Jackson the loser. Marino the loser. Right? They all belong in the Dak club of losers.

Right?

I disagree because everyone loses. But the guys like Allen and Jackson and Marino all have fight and show up. It's when someone just flat out can't handle the pressure and doesn't show up that makes me criticize them. Take Hurts in that first SB. He lost but I was very impressed by his ability to hang 35 points on that KC defense and he had the misfortune of playing Mahomes. The good QBs lose to each other. But the bad QBs don't show up when they play the big boys. Allen losing to Mahomes with 13 sec left isn't the same as Dak not showing up against GB.

 

[Bullflop]

Being a fan who wants the best for any player involved with the Cowboys, I'm hoping for Dakota to become one of the biggest benefactors of a vastly improved offense with the Cowboys. With health cooperating, he should stand a fighter's chance to improve sufficiently to rate a #8 position in 2025.

Thereby, in doing so, the team as a whole, should have a fighter's chance to earn a division crown. Anything is possible, with the stars aligning properly to make it happen. It's been too long for that to become a reality for the Dallas Cowboys. Thirty years is awful for such a curse to continue.

 

[Swagger]

The salary cap is malleable. When it first was introduced, our team didn't know how to manipulate it and got in salary cap hell. Now, teams like Philadelphia show just how much it can be molded and shaped. Our team's choices to not use outside free agency has nothing to do with not having the money to really attack free agency. It has everything to do with the Joneses believing you don't get what you pay for.

Philadephia are very active and crucially they get out of bad contracts like Wentz as he wasn't the same quarterback after the serious knee injury which enable them to continually push and be aggressive in free agency.

As I previously stated, I can't spend another person's money but I have outlayed what would give the Cowboys a far greater chance of being a genuine contender - either ride a competent quarterback on a rookie contract (e.g., draft Jalen Hurts in the 2nd round as I advocated on here before that draft and he fell to the Cowboys) or sign a solid vet like Mayfield who would likely produce very similar production to Prescott's saving $30 million in the process which could be used to beef up the defense and sign an elite running back.

 

[Swagger]

I disagree because everyone loses. But the guys like Allen and Jackson and Marino all have fight and show up. It's when someone just flat out can't handle the pressure and doesn't show up that makes me criticize them. Take Hurts in that first SB. He lost but I was very impressed by his ability to hang 35 points on that KC defense and he had the misfortune of playing Mahomes. The good QBs lose to each other. But the bad QBs don't show up when they play the big boys. Allen losing to Mahomes with 13 sec left isn't the same as Dak not showing up against GB.

Spot on

 

[Swagger]

It will be the usual drill. Dak will feast on the gash teams to massage those stats baby! Then when it comes to actually playing good teams it's whether the defense can somehow carry him which is unlikely as those good teams will have quarterbacks who can make the plays required to beat good defenses.

Dak Prescott fans blame the defense (even though the majority of the teams resources has been pumped into the offense which failed in those games). Rinse and repeat.

 

[Yobwocs]

It will be the usual drill. Dak will feast on the gash teams to massage those stats baby! Then when it comes to actually playing good teams it's whether the defense can somehow carry him which is unlikely as those good teams will have quarterbacks who can make the plays required to beat good defenses.

Dak Prescott fans blame the defense (even though the majority of the teams resources has been pumped into the offense which failed in those games). Rinse and repeat.

LMAO.... so the defense can't even be asked to stop a mediocre QB like Love?

Also.... defense has Bland, Diggs, and Parsons.... I definitely am going to expect those high end players (according to the Dak haters here) to be better than Jordan Love.

 

[Swagger]

LMAO.... so the defense can't even be asked to stop a mediocre QB like Love?

Also.... defense has Bland, Diggs, and Parsons.... I definitely am going to expect those high end players (according to the Dak haters here) to be better than Jordan Love.

How did Dak play in the first half? The game was lost by half time then enter garbage time against prevent defense in the second half. Pointless stats.

Just a heads up that I'm putting you on ignore as responding to your messages is a waste of my time.

All the best.

 

[noshame]

Let's be honest, a healthy Dak can win you 8-9 regular-season games in his sleep.

Or 4-5 if awake

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Let's be honest, a healthy Dak can win you 8-9 regular-season games in his sleep.

Dak can or the team?

Hmmmm... interesting that you say it that way but everything negative is team based.

 

[shabazz]

It will be the usual drill. Dak will feast on the gash teams to massage those stats baby! Then when it comes to actually playing good teams it's whether the defense can somehow carry him which is unlikely as those good teams will have quarterbacks who can make the plays required to beat good defenses.

Dak Prescott fans blame the defense (even though the majority of the teams resources has been pumped into the offense which failed in those games). Rinse and repeat.

No more of those top 5 easiest schedules that we enjoyed during those three 12 win seasons because the NFC was historically weak.

Got a real schedule this season.....starting on September 4th at the Linc.

 

[Swagger]

Dak over Dallas fans like to pretend that Dak is the only QB in NFL history who doesn't get the ball every time the opponent scores.

So when teams build big leads against us it's not Dak's fault at all.

The offense only had to put 20 points on the board to win the 2nd play off game against the 49ers. That wasn't on the defense. It's just boring explaining this to some people.

 

[Yobwocs]

How did Dak play in the first half? The game was lost by half time then enter garbage time against prevent defense in the second half. Pointless stats.

Just a heads up that I'm putting you on ignore as responding to your messages is a waste of my time.

All the best.

See you next time on one of my threads...... you'll be here along with @MountaineerCowboy and @zrinkill ..... they're always here. So much for ignore.

 

[shabazz]

Dak over Dallas fans like to pretend that Dak is the only QB in NFL history who doesn't get the ball every time the opponent scores.

So when teams build big leads against us it's not Dak's fault at all.

The truly telling stat was Dak and the offense scoring 7 or less first half points in 4 out of the last 5 playoff losses......they went AWOL

The excuses can only be made so long.