Could someone explain "Strength of Victory"?

[Coogiguy03]

Division tie breaker is way ahead of this one, so not sure what you mean?

I didn't state it right i'm sorry

 

[Kevinicus]

The math changes quite a bit if Dallas beats Miami and Detroit.

The gap is pretty much non-existent if, say, Minnesota loses out and SEA wins out.

The math doesn't change, beating Miami and Detroit is already calculated in the scenario.

Those results for Seattle/Minnesota would help, but the odds of gaining ground, or even staying even, with LAC/CAR vs KC/TB/ is pretty slim.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

The math doesn't change, beating Miami and Detroit is already calculated in the scenario.

Those results for Seattle/Minnesota would help, but the odds of gaining ground, or even staying even, with LAC/CAR vs KC/TB/ is pretty slim.

In what scenario? I'm just referencing current.

 

[DallasInDC]

It’s simply the records of the teams each has beaten
Easiest approach to see who wins tie breaker is to count the number of wins for each opponent you beat

Eagles are currently five games ahead / it’s very unlikely we will catch them in SOV

For that to happen, bad teams we beat like the chargers and panthers are going to have to win a couple of remaining games, etc.

I thought that's was strength of schedule, i.e., combined winning percentage of your opponents. Strength of victory is something else, which I haven't been able to figure out. I haven't tested it yet but I would think it would have to do with the point differential of your opponents compared to your margin of victory against the opponent.

Of course I could be completely off on that.

 

[diamonddelts]

Second round exit in playoffs either way.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Just doing quick math...Dallas needs to make up only 7 games, assuming they win out.

KC/LAC (-4) TB/CAR (-5) BUF/NYJ (-5) DET/MIN (+3) SEA/ARZ (+4)

It's unlikely I guess but far from settled. Seattle goes 3-0 and ARZ goes 0-3, the tiebreaker difference is only one game.

 

[Kevinicus]

In what scenario? I'm just referencing current.

Scenario where the SOV tie breaker comes into play.

 

[links18]

No offesne, links18, but running up the score on crap opponents should not buy anyone anything

Probably not, but calling it "strength of victory" is a little confusing. I thought it meant point differential in wins.

 

[Bagman]

After all these years of explaining to the fans that the NFL is parity driven and an any given Sunday league, we've been reduced to "style points" for victories. Apparently a 10 point win over Washington isn't as impressive as a 10 point win against Baltimore. As a result of not being as "impressive", you finish in 2nd place. Ridiculous. Philly had a harder schedule because they finished in 1st place last year. And even though it was harder, all their difficult games were at home. So you're telling the 2nd place team they have to win more games than Philly because the tie goes to the Eagles ? Weird.

 

[Einstein]

This article does a good job explaining it and where we stand vs the egals:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...ce-could-go-to-wire-and-deep-into-tiebreakers

 

[LACowboysFan1]

That comes into play at tiebreaker #145

You never know. Back in the 70's (if memory serves as to the year) Dallas came into the last game of the season having to beat the Eagles (again, if memory serves) by 25 or more points to win the division and get into the playoffs. Win by less than 25 and they were out of the playoffs all together.

Halftime score Dallas was up 35-10, but couldn't hold the point margin up, won the game but was out of the playoffs.

Points can matter....

 

[Momanpr100]

I guess we had the easier schedule. But I see the Eagles dropping 1 to the Giants or Cardinals. So won't matter in my opinion

 

[DakotaReign]

Desiring to change the tiebreaker is not the answer. Just win and the tiebreakers don't come into play.

This part. We knew we needed to beat the Eagles in our first matchup, and if we would have, we wouldn’t be having this conversation at all right now.

 

[starfan1]

well if we can run the table and they lose 1 to the giants is probably only hope at this point for division crown unlikely but stranger things have happened

 

[Tabascocat]

You never know. Back in the 70's (if memory serves as to the year) Dallas came into the last game of the season having to beat the Eagles (again, if memory serves) by 25 or more points to win the division and get into the playoffs. Win by less than 25 and they were out of the playoffs all together.

Halftime score Dallas was up 35-10, but couldn't hold the point margin up, won the game but was out of the playoffs.

Points can matter....

They do matter but unfortunately, it won’t get to that point

 

[JustChip]

It is, but we are both undefeated against the division, aside from each other. If Philly loses one of the Giants games coming up, that would jump up as a huge tiebreaker.

So would them losing to ‘zona as long as Dallas doesn’t lose to Miami or Warshington. Dallas would own the Common Opponent tiebreaker even if Philly sweeps the Giants.

 

[TwentyOne]

I mean "strength of victory" could easily be confused with point differential in wins, and we would be ahead.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nfl+definition+strength+of+schedule&ia=web

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nfl+strength+of+victory+definition&ia=web

 

[JustChip]

well if we can run the table and they lose 1 to the giants is probably only hope at this point for division crown unlikely but stranger things have happened

If Dallas runs the table, It won’t matter whether Philly loses to NYG or Arizona as long as they lose 1 if the 3 games. Dallas would have the better record.

Or Dallas can go 2-1, with the loss being Detroit, and Philly sweeps NYG and loses to Arizona. Dallas would have Common Opponents tiebreaker in that case.

 

[Jake]

I mean "strength of victory" could easily be confused with point differential in wins, and we would be ahead.

Those are two entirely different things and only one of them is an official tiebreaker.

Beating teams with winning records is more impressive than piling up points against scrubs. The last thing the league wants is teams running two minute drills when leading by 30 in the 4th quarter. It's a bad look and would lead to fights, players taking cheap shots, etc.. Imagine a team pile driving Dak late because he's trying to put up another score up 40-10 with 90 seconds left, and he gets injured. No one wants that.

 

[dargonking999]

Yes pretty much
Common opponents we both beat cancel each other out

They beat the Bucs and Chiefs, who we didn’t play
We beat the Panthers and Bolts, who they didn’t play

That alone (those unique opponents) is pretty much the difference right there

You forgot about the vikings the eagles played a d also you have to add in teams we beat and they didn't and visa versa

So that would be Seahawks and Jets for us

And cardinals(if they win that game) and the bills for them

Also if we beat the lions that will be added as well