Could/Would have 3 #1's

[DBOY3141]

Do you think Jerry is going to test the waters with MBIII and see if he can get someone to give up a 1st and 3rd? Teams that come to mind are:

Atlanta - had to pay top money last year for a #1 pick

Oakland - 2 years in a row they've had to pay top money for a #1 pick

Houston - desperate for a top RB

Tennessee - only basis is comments Jeff Fisher was suppose to have made earlier in the month

I guess we'll know in the next week.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

Do you think Jerry is going to test the waters with MBIII and see if he can get someone to give up a 1st and 3rd? Teams that come to mind are:

Atlanta - had to pay top money last year for a #1 pick

Oakland - 2 years in a row they've had to pay top money for a #1 pick

Houston - desperate for a top RB

Tennessee - only basis is comments Jeff Fisher was suppose to have made earlier in the month

I guess we'll know in the next week.

I'd hate this move!
We have a PROVEN R.B. who is a pro-bowler, NEVER give up a proven guy for the UNKNOWN!
Remember, Cadillac Williams, Cedric Benson, Blair Thomas, etc., etc., etc.
Put it this way, if we had THREE 1st round picks and an extra 3rd round pick and Barber was hypothetically available for a 1st and a 3rd round pick and we obviously didnt' have anyone at R.B. since we'd be without Barber, wouldn't we JUMP at the chance to give up a 1st and 3rd for Barber and STILL have TWO 1st round picks, a 2nd and a 3rd rounder????????????
So if we'd gladly give up one of our THEE 1st rounders and one of our TWO 3rd rounders for Barber if he was on another team, why would we put him on the market so someone else could take him for that?

Well, that's just me, maybe you think he's not worth a 1st and 3rd, I don't know, I'm just trying to show it would be stupid to get rid of him.

 

[iceberg]

Do you think Jerry is going to test the waters with MBIII and see if he can get someone to give up a 1st and 3rd? Teams that come to mind are:

Atlanta - had to pay top money last year for a #1 pick

Oakland - 2 years in a row they've had to pay top money for a #1 pick

Houston - desperate for a top RB

Tennessee - only basis is comments Jeff Fisher was suppose to have made earlier in the month

I guess we'll know in the next week.

if the goal is to obtain such a player as barber, why would you give up proven value to gamble again?

stay out of vegas dude.

 

[Future]

I'm torn, I love MBIII and what he brings...but the thought of 3 #1s makes my head spin. If we can get three number ones, we can end up getting a top-flite WR, CB, and RB through either trades or drafting. We can also probably use the extra third to move up in the second or third as well.

 

[DR.WARE]

MB3 is one of my favorite players on the cowboys, he better not leave

 

[viman96]

3 #1 picks would cost a lot of money!

IMO, Barber has EARNED the right to be the starting RB on this team.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

I'm torn, I love MBIII and what he brings...but the thought of 3 #1s makes my head spin. If we can get three number ones, we can end up getting a top-flite WR, CB, and RB through either trades or drafting. We can also probably use the extra third to move up in the second or third as well.

But we already have TWO #1's!
So we can get a top-flight W.R., C.B, and already have our Proven Pro-Bowl R.B.!
What woudl you rather have THREE 1st round picks and an extra 3rd to select a W.R., C.B., (unproven cedric Benson, Cadillac Williams, Blair Thomas, Ki-Jana Carter) R.B. or have TWO 1st round picks and select a W.R., C.B., and Marion Barber?

Do the math and get back to me!

 

[tecolote]

While 3 no. 1's would be tempting, we would certainly have to use at least one of them to draft a RB, there is nothing certain in the draft, for every A Peterson there is a Cedric Benson, what are the chances of getting a back that's better than Barber, he is already a Pro Bowl back and is young.

So we would be hoping to draft a pro bowl back to replace the pro bowl back we just traded away, I would much rather draft a back like Rice in the 2d and get a WR/CB combo in the first.

 

[Future]

But we already have TWO #1's!
So we can get a top-flight W.R., C.B, and already have our Proven Pro-Bowl R.B.!
What woudl you rather have THREE 1st round picks and an extra 3rd to select a W.R., C.B., (unproven cedric Benson, Cadillac Williams, Blair Thomas, Ki-Jana Carter) R.B. or have TWO 1st round picks and select a W.R., C.B., and Marion Barber?

Do the math and get back to me!

The pro-bowl doesn't mean a lot to me...so get that argument out of the equation.

MBIII cannot carry the load 20 carries a game, so we would be essentially trading a platoon back (as good as he is) and have the ability to get a bookmark RB and WR to continue to build the offense around.

Say what you want about McFadden being a bust, but the guy is too fast and too athletic to bust. He's a home-run threat every single time he touches the ball, Barber is not.

 

[Bleu Star]

3 #1 picks would cost a lot of money!

IMO, Barber has EARNED the right to be the starting RB on this team.

End of story...

 

[ThatsmyQB]

3 #1 picks would cost a lot of money!

IMO, Barber has EARNED the right to be the starting RB on this team.

Actually 1st round picks where we select are relatively cheap!
It would cost us CONSIDERABLY LESS to pay three 1st round picks compared to two 1st rounders and Barber's new deal.

But that being said, you don't give up a PROVEN PLAYER for an UNKNOWN!

Why don't we trade T.O. for Malcolm Kelly, or Romo for Brady Quinn, etc., the draft is a complete cr@p shoot, never take proven players over draft picks, except in rare cases.
Barber is young and proven, no reason to get an extra 1st and 3rd and STILL have to now not only draft a R.B. to replace him BUT another R>B. on top of that to back him up, AND the R.B. you take might be a bust on top of that.

 

[Bleu Star]

3 #1 picks would cost a lot of money!

IMO, Barber has EARNED the right to be the starting RB on this team.

End of story...

 

[Beast_from_East]

Do you think Jerry is going to test the waters with MBIII and see if he can get someone to give up a 1st and 3rd? Teams that come to mind are:

Atlanta - had to pay top money last year for a #1 pick

Oakland - 2 years in a row they've had to pay top money for a #1 pick

Houston - desperate for a top RB

Tennessee - only basis is comments Jeff Fisher was suppose to have made earlier in the month

I guess we'll know in the next week.

No, everything Jerry has said points to Barber being the featured back.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I'm torn, I love MBIII and what he brings...but the thought of 3 #1s makes my head spin. If we can get three number ones, we can end up getting a top-flite WR, CB, and RB through either trades or drafting. We can also probably use the extra third to move up in the second or third as well.

I cant see why.... how many teams EVERY YEAR draft a 1st rounder? How many really make a major impact?

We would be picking 3 in first round? percentages of success?

Barber = proven success

 

[ThatsmyQB]

The pro-bowl doesn't mean a lot to me...so get that argument out of the equation.

What I mean is he plays liek a pro bowl back and has the talent of a pro-bowl back, does he not?

MBIII cannot carry the load 20 carries a game, so we would be essentially trading a platoon back (as good as he is) and have the ability to get a bookmark RB and WR to continue to build the offense around.

Who says he can't carry the ball 20 times a game????????????????
He certainly can carry it that many times a game!
Who's this BOOKMARK R.B. and W.R. we're gonna get with the 1st and 3rd rounder we'd give up for Barber?

Say what you want about McFadden being a bust, but the guy is too fast and too athletic to bust.

Sure, just like Mike Mamula was THEE Can't miss prospect and Tony Mandarich and Brian Bosworth, OH and R.B.'s, , and Blair Thomas, and Ki-Jana Carter, and all the other top backs who ended up being BUSTS, is REGGIE BUSH not ATHLETIC enough for ya?

He's a home-run threat every single time he touches the ball, Barber is not.

So was Reggie Bush!
Barber averaged 4.8 yards a carry, you gonna GUARANTEE McFadden gets us that?
OH, and we are not gonna get McFadden for just the 1st and 3rd rounder we'd get for Barber, so we'd have to give up ANOTHER one of our 1st rounders also.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

You just never know ....

 

[Future]

What I mean is he plays liek a pro bowl back and has the talent of a pro-bowl back, does he not?

He does I'm not arguing that

Who says he can't carry the ball 20 times a game????????????????
He certainly can carry it that many times a game!
Who's this BOOKMARK R.B. and W.R. we're gonna get with the 1st and 3rd rounder we'd give up for Barber?[

McFadden and I think we could trade for Fitz or Williams

The Giants game says he can't carry 20 times a game...he was tired the entire second half imo.

Sure, just like Mike Mamula, and Blair Thomas, and Ki-Jana Carter, and all the other top backs who ended up being BUSTS, is REGGIE BUSH not ATHLETIC enough for ya?

Mike Mamula is a frickin linebacker..

Just like LaDainian Tomlinson, Jamal Lewis, Edgerrin James...they were all top5 if I'm not mistaken.

So was Reggie Bush!
Barber averaged 4.8 yards a carry, you gonna GUARANTEE McFadden gets us that?
OH, and we are not gonna get McFadden for just the 1st and 3rd rounder we'd get for Barber, so we'd have to give up ANOTHER one of our 1st rounders also.[/

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Reggie Bush and D-Mac are completely different types of backs. Bush is more of a gimmicky (for lack of better terms) type back, where McFadden is a pure RB. And Reggie Bush completely alters the way teams play defense anyways, he has to be accounted for, probably by a DB, to say that he is a bust is ignorant. There isn't another player in the game who brings to the table what he does, but he's not a "regular" type of RB so I don't think the comparisons to McFadden are fair.

 

[speedkilz88]

Jerry, test the waters? If a team wants to give up a first and a third for Barber, all they have to do is sign him to a contract that the Cowboys can't or won't match. There isn't any testing the waters on Jerry's part.

 

[viman96]

MBIII cannot carry the load 20 carries a game, so we would be essentially trading a platoon back (as good as he is) and have the ability to get a bookmark RB and WR to continue to build the offense around.

We have no idea he can not carry the ball for 20+ carries a game. What we saw against the Giants in the playoffs does not tell the story. It was his 1st start that just happened to be in the playoffs with major expectations for him and the entire organization. That is a lot of burden to carry (no pun intended) for your 1st start.

Give the man his shot and draft a change of pace back to help offset the load.

 

[Dallas]

if the goal is to obtain such a player as barber, why would you give up proven value to gamble again?

stay out of vegas dude.

DING DING DING !!!! DING DING !!!

Can we give some type of prize to ice for this totally off the wall, mind numbing and geniusly well said post?

Here is to thinking outside the box iceberg.

BRILLIANT !!

I saw this thread and immediately started bouncing my head off of my desk. Slowly at first until I built up into a very nice dull THUMPING noise.