Could you redo Trey Lance's contract right now?

[Flamma]

The writing is on the wall. Daks had 7 years to get this team to the NFC Championship game and a SB. He blew it the last two years. He has one chance now.

Jerry will not pay him $260 million just to get the same results. That's why Lance is here. Next TC will be a QB competition.

If they go that route, they'll be eating a 60M dollar cap hit next year. I don't know how they intend to absorb that.

 

[KJJ]

The Cowboys will likely try to rework his contract to where they have more time to decide what they want to do with him. Something that will at least give them two or three seasons before they would have to fork over a ton of money to him.

 

[KJJ]

QBs coming off their rookie contract never accept cheap long term deals. After their 4th year, they take cheap one year prove it deals.

It depends on what they’ve done coming off their rookie contracts. If they’ve been a bust, they’re certainly not going to get a lucrative long-term contract. They’re in no position to be demanding a lot of money if they’re no longer a starting QB.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Everything is set up perfectly with both contracts. We have Lance for another 3 years if we want him under his rookie deal. Thats probably how much time he would need to be good enough to challenge Dak.

So we extend Dak for 2 or 3 more years and see what happens.

Rush is signed as the #2 through next season. Thats about the time Lance could challenge him.

Its all perfect contact wise.

I agree but that 5th year option for Lance will be awfully expensive if he's still a backup by then. That's why the OP is such a good question. A new deal could allow the Cowboys cap savings if Lance is not starting in 2025. Adding in playtime incentives means Lance will still get that money if indeed the Cowboys move on from Dak by then.

Not advocating Dak or Lance, just looking at the possibilities.

 

[Flamma]

It depends on what they’ve done coming off their rookie contracts. If they’ve been a bust, they’re certainly not going to get a lucrative long-term contract. They’re in no position to be demanding a lot of money if they’re no longer a starting QB.

Of course. I'm just saying they won't even take, for example, a 4 year 40M dollar contract. They'd rather bounce around from team to team for 1 year deals. Like Mayfield for example. Or Darnold.

I'll give another example. Daniel Jones. He was prepared to leave the Giants for whatever he could make for 1 year over taking less than market value, or close to market value on the Giants.

 

[charron]

What would you consider a cheap long term deal?

it's not what I consider cheap but what they do. You extend a guy now with 2 years left on his deal to spread out the huge guaranteed money. Otherwise they don't need to rush to an extension. Trey's agent would want a market contract otherwise why extend? The team would get an extension at current market prices instead of what they believe market price will be in 2 years. I'm not advocating this at all just stating the obvious as to why the cowboys would want to do a deal and why trey would want to accept.

 

[KJJ]

Of course. I'm just saying they won't even take, for example, a 4 year 40M dollar contract. They'd rather bounce around from team to team for 1 year deals. Like Mayfield for example. Or Darnold.

I'll give another example. Daniel Jones. He was prepared to leave the Giants for whatever he could make for 1 year over taking less than market value, or close to market value on the Giants.

Mayfield and Darnold are still hoping for starting jobs. Mayfield got one for the time being with Tampa. After the year Daniel Jones had he would’ve gotten a multiyear deal from someone.

 

[Flamma]

Mayfield and Darnold are still hoping for starting jobs. Mayfield got one for the time being with Tampa. After the year Daniel Jones had he would’ve gotten a multiyear deal from someone.

We don't know that Daniel Jones would have. Mayfield didn't. Daniel Jones didn't have a good year, his team did. He passed for something like 15 TDs. I think it was 2020 where Baker had 26 TDs to 8 picks. And won a playoff game. The reason the Giants signed him to that contract was because he would have left. He would have left regardless of what he would have made elsewhere. We can debate whether or not he would have been signed to a multi year contract, but that's not the point. He would have left regardless.

 

[America's Cowboy]

He can play man.

Kid is gifted with talent.

Here is your talent...

 

[America's Cowboy]

OK Nostradamus

 

[shabazz]

Daniel Jones didn't have a good year, his team did. He passed for something like 15 TDs. I think it was 2020 where Baker had 26 TDs to 8 picks.

I am far from a believer in Jones but we sometimes forget to add 700+ rushing yards and 7 more rushing touchdowns.

Hes no Lamar Jackson, lol but the totality of his stats must have been considered in that contract.

 

[KJJ]

We don't know that Daniel Jones would have. Mayfield didn't. Daniel Jones didn't have a good year, his team did. He passed for something like 15 TDs. I think it was 2020 where Baker had 26 TDs to 8 picks. And won a playoff game. The reason the Giants signed him to that contract was because he would have left. He would have left regardless of what he would have made elsewhere. We can debate whether or not he would have been signed to a multi year contract, but that's not the point. He would have left regardless.

The Browns gave up on Mayfield, he was a bust. The Rams picked him up for a few games and let him go. Daniel Jones had career bests in almost every category last season with the Giants. He only threw 15 TDs, but had a career low 5 INT’s. He was much more careful with the football last season. He had over 700 rushing yards with 7 rushing TDs. He led the Giants to the playoffs and he won a playoff game. He did have a good season, which is why the Giants are paying him $40 million per season. Having a good season isn’t all about throwing a bunch of TD passes. No way would he have been stuck with a one year deal with someone. The only reason I responded is because you said he would’ve been looking at a one year deal with someone. Not true.

 

[Typhus]

Wont be our biggest bust ever, SF for sure but not the Cowboys.

 

[plymkr]

The writing is on the wall. Daks had 7 years to get this team to the NFC Championship game and a SB. He blew it the last two years. He has one chance now.

Jerry will not pay him $260 million just to get the same results. That's why Lance is here. Next TC will be a QB competition.

I think you’re right. What’s really going to be fun is the over analyzing, micro managing, extra speculation that’s going to come from the QB competition.

This is how I see it.
Best case scenario, Dak balls out and we win the Super Bowl, or Dak’s play shuts down any discussion of his game; then Trey never sees the field.

2nd best scenario, Dak sucks and offense fails opening the door for Trey to tryout. Trey either taking the starting job or shows he sucks too and we draft a guy.

Absolute worst case scenario, Dak is mediocre and Trey is mediocre and we have to make a decision which mediocre player to gamble on.

Personally I’m hoping for scenario #1or #2. I’m sick of being mediocre. I do think losing twice to the 49ers shook up Jerry and that’s why he pulled the trigger.

 

[KJJ]

No trade was worse than the one Minnesota made for Herschel Walker. They went from 10-6 in 1989 to 6-10 in 1990. The trade set them back. San Francisco didn’t get set back by the blunder for Trey Lance. They continue to have a great teams, and go deep in the playoffs. Giving up for Trey Lance what you would give up to draft Peyton Manning never made any sense, but they continue to win.

 

[Flamma]

No trade was worse than the one Minnesota made for Herschel Walker. They went from 10-6 in 1989 to 6-10 in 1990. The trade set them back. San Francisco didn’t get set back by the blunder for Trey Lance. They continue to have a great teams, and go deep in the playoffs. Giving up for Trey Lance what you would give up to draft Peyton Manning never made any sense, but they continue to win.

Clearly the loss of those picks hurt the Vikings. But there was something else wrong with them. But back then it was hard to tell what it was with such little media coverage. After the '88 season it was determined that the Vikings were a RB away. But they really weren't any better in '89 with Walker. Then they went straight down the toilet.

It's true the Lance trade didn't hurt the 49ers. But you have to believe they might be even a little better with three additional first round picks.