Countries paying teen's rescue cost defend sea law

[Jon88]

As I have noted, I think is questionable to allow a 16 year to go sailing around the world on her own.

However, as Old Otis from Martin likes to say, "keep ya draws on folks", the rescue amount is mere pennies to Australia and if Australia doesn't care, then it isn't a big deal.

Now if you are from Australia, then you have a right to whine bust most of the folks here aren't.

I can locate it on a map.

 

[hairic]

Oh goody, we finally get to learn what the price is for a human life. What price is too high to save a life? Stay tuned.

The value of an American citizen's life went down a couple years ago. I don't remember the highest or know the current or where or how I read it. Quick googling only got me this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,380447,00.html

EPA: Value of American Life Drops to $6.9 Million

But I remember it being more like a blog that did more analysis. Oh well.

 

[Doomsday101]

As I have noted, I think is questionable to allow a 16 year to go sailing around the world on her own.

However, as Old Otis from Martin likes to say, "keep ya draws on folks", the rescue amount is mere pennies to Australia and if Australia doesn't care, then it isn't a big deal.

Now if you are from Australia, then you have a right to whine bust most of the folks here aren't.

So we are only allowed to voice an opinion if it happened in the US?

 

[Maikeru-sama]

So we are only allowed to voice an opinion if it happened in the US?

This is a message board, folks can talk about anything they want, except for politics .

My opinion is that if the country of Australia doesn't care, then what exactly is the big deal?

Now if it were the United States that foot the bill, then it's time to have another march on Washington .

 

[Doomsday101]

This is a message board, folks can talk about anything they want, except for politics .

My opinion is that if the country of Australia doesn't care, then what exactly is the big deal?

Now if it were the United States that foot the bill, then it's time to have another march on Washington .

They did not say they did not care

Immigration Minister Chris Evans did say last week, however, that the risk of one person's adventure could be too costly to the public.

"Clearly, it will be very expensive," Evans said. "Obviously when someone is at risk you have to respond. But I personally have a view that we should be more careful about what we allow people to do in these circumstances."

Australia rescue crews did what they had to do what almost any country would do but maybe people who are pulling these stunts need to realize the cost and risk their actions cost others.

 

[Hoofbite]

Then have sponsors or investors to help foot the bill. If you choose to march to a different beat fine but others should not have to take financial risk because you want to be different.

Anyone who's biggest gripe with any government's spending is the cost of a search and rescue mission is a fool.

What are we gonna do next?

Send a bill to skiers who are caught in an avalanche?

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Oh goody, we finally get to learn what the price is for a human life. What price is too high to save a life? Stay tuned.

Well that depends on how rich you are.

 

[Doomsday101]

Anyone who's biggest gripe with any government's spending is the cost of a search and rescue mission is a fool.

What are we gonna do next?

Send a bill to skiers who are caught in an avalanche?

As I said I think anyone needing rescue should be rescued I think any person willing to put others at risk for their own sake should pay a penalty. It is not just about cost it is about putting others at risk because of your own stupid actions.

By the way people are fined for these actions not long ago a mountain climber was forced to pay a fine because rescue teams where needed. By doing this maybe it will make people think long and hard about their actions.

 

[Hoofbite]

As I said I think anyone needing rescue should be rescued I think any person willing to put others at risk for their own sake should pay a penalty. It is not just about cost it is about putting others at risk because of your own stupid actions.

By the way people are fined for these actions not long ago a mountain climber was forced to pay a fine because rescue teams where needed. By doing this maybe it will make people think long and hard about their actions.

Who's life was put in danger by the girl?

 

[joseephuss]

During Shark Week one year I was watching a show about this woman who had been attacked by a shark. She was with a tour group and paid to go swimming with the sharks. It was out in the middle of nowhere. The U.S. Navy was able to get out to her and save her at considerable expense.

I don't think there should ever be a question of whether or not to do what you can to save someone. The questions should come after the fact about whether the person being rescued should be accountable for some of the cost. Of course depending on the situation you can get into some debates, but there are obvious cases where the people could throw in some money.

You see idiots all the time that need to be rescued because they tried to drive across a low water crossing during a severe storm. I have no problems if officials said they had to pay a fine or service fee for their rescue. I have no problem if they ask this kid or her parents to contribute a little something to her rescue effort. It was worth it to save her. It is also worth it to ask for something back in return. Heck, there would probably be plenty of people that would donate to help her pay a little something.

 

[Doomsday101]

Who's life was put in danger by the girl?

In this case none, for the most part asset and man power were used however to ensure her safety as they should have.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Who's life was put in danger by the girl?

Nothing is assured on a ship. Just because it's a rescue ship doesn't mean that there aren't inherent dangers that come with the job.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

As I said I think anyone needing rescue should be rescued I think any person willing to put others at risk for their own sake should pay a penalty. It is not just about cost it is about putting others at risk because of your own stupid actions.

What about those that go to sea for monetary gain? Commercial and charter fisherman, shipping, exploration etc.

You really don't think those people are invoiced do you?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Sea law, put down by sea men.

 

[Concord]

Who's life was put in danger by the girl?

The Captain of the fishing boat.


French authorities called it a “delicate operation” and at one point the fishing boat’s captain fell into the ocean. “He was fished out in difficult conditions”


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/french_fishing_boat_rescues_solo_HLTUAS7mn9DK0nIle5IICK

 

[burmafrd]

This voyage had no value beyond the ego of that girl. I think in situations like that there should be forced purchase of rescue insurance. Someone wanting to solo sail around the world should be classified as a dangerous event that could require rescue as this one did. why should any taxpayers have to pay for stupid stunts like this?

 

[joseephuss]

What about those that go to sea for monetary gain? Commercial and charter fisherman, shipping, exploration etc.

You really don't think those people are invoiced do you?

Well, BP is out in the sea for monetary gain and they are being invoiced. You have to look at each specific incident. There is no general rule of thumb that applies.

 

[Doomsday101]

What about those that go to sea for monetary gain? Commercial and charter fisherman, shipping, exploration etc.

You really don't think those people are invoiced do you?

These commercial fishing boat payout yearly fees to the Coast Guard through inspection of the vessel as well as required safety courses. These fishermen are not joy riding.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I have heard the, she should have had insurance, line used a few times.

I have no problem with that and think her family should have had some kind of insurance for that.

But let me ask this...would boat insurance cover a rescue mission at all? I really don't have a clue about boat insurance for sail boats or ocean boats. Do they pay a percentage of money for location or rescue ventures to a country.

If they were sailing off the coast of the US for example and a boat set off a beacon and the Coast Guard sent out a boat and chopper to find the boat...would the insurance cover any of the cost and pay it to the coast guard?

I don't even know if that kind of thing would be charged by a country (US or other country).

Don't really know so that is why I am asking.

I mean even if she did have the top of the line insurance for boaters, it might not make a difference if a country's rescue services don't require payment.

 

[Doomsday101]

I have heard the, she should have had insurance, line used a few times.

I have no problem with that and think her family should have had some kind of insurance for that.

But let me ask this...would boat insurance cover a rescue mission at all? I really don't have a clue about boat insurance for sail boats or ocean boats. Do they pay a percentage of money for location or rescue ventures to a country.

If they were sailing off the coast of the US for example and a boat set off a beacon and the Coast Guard sent out a boat and chopper to find the boat...would the insurance cover any of the cost and pay it to the coast guard?

I don't even know if that kind of thing would be charged by a country (US or other country).

Don't really know so that is why I am asking.

I mean even if she did have the top of the line insurance for boaters, it might not make a difference if a country's rescue services don't require payment.

This is not your typical day out boating that is like comparing a Sunday drive to running 500 miles at Daytona. I do think that insurance or some form or sponsorship should be required when taking on an endeavor like this.