Countries paying teen's rescue cost defend sea law

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Doomsday101;3436639 said:
This is not your typical day out boating that is like comparing a Sunday drive to running 500 miles at Daytona. I do think that insurance or some form or sponsorship should be required when taking on an endeavor like this.

Well I have already said I think she should have insurance but that is not the question IMO.

Would insurance pay for any rescue effort to a country? I mean some regular car insurance pays for tow truck AAA service and so on but do they pay a police officer for pulling you out of a burning car or something along that line?

Not medical but for a rescue....that is what I am wondering because it would seem that car, house and health insurance would be something different when a country is doing the rescuing. But I don't really know how that works.

Countries set money aside for rescue agencies so it is expected that they will spend money doing these things so I don't think they charge people for them so I don't know if insurance would help in this instance...if anything I imagine the insurance would just pay (if they had it) for repairs on her mast or something.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;3436649 said:
Well I have already said I think she should have insurance but that is not the question IMO.

Would insurance pay for any rescue effort to a country? I mean some regular car insurance pays for tow truck AAA service and so on but do they pay a police officer for pulling you out of a burning car or something along that line?

Not medical but for a rescue....that is what I am wondering because it would seem that car, house and health insurance would be something different when a country is doing the rescuing. But I don't really know how that works.

Countries set money aside for rescue agencies so it is expected that they will spend money doing these things so I don't think they charge people for them so I don't know if insurance would help in this instance...if anything I imagine the insurance would just pay (if they had it) for repairs on her mast or something.

As I said I think it should be required. If it was being done already I would not have suggested that it be required.
 

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Where did the $130,000 number come from? Did I misread something?

This operation cost WAY more than that.

The 11-hour flight cost an estimated 110,000 Australian dollars (US $94,500).
The Australian military also deployed two Orion aircraft to wait on an Indian Ocean island in case an airdrop or further assistance was needed. An Orion costs about AU$30,000 an hour to operate.


That right there beats $130,00, even if the 2 Orion's were only used for an hour (Unlikely?)

This doesn't count the cost of the second plane, or Frances involvement.

Not really adding anything to the thread, but I just don't understand where the 130,000 number came from
 

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burmafrd;3436138 said:
This voyage had no value beyond the ego of that girl. I think in situations like that there should be forced purchase of rescue insurance. Someone wanting to solo sail around the world should be classified as a dangerous event that could require rescue as this one did. why should any taxpayers have to pay for stupid stunts like this?

Yeah, that's the thing that gets me. It's not like the trip was to raise money for charity or to raise awareness for a cause, etc. There was nothing redeeming about the trip whatsoever.

That being said, you can't then get all riled up about people attempting to save her. I know people that work in the coast guard, and hell, they'd deploy with a smile on their face to save a beach ball floating in the middle of the ocean, they love their jobs that much.

So the only issue is the cost to tax payers of the respective countries. The idea that because she's American, America should have been the one to save her is ridiculous. If someone comes to this country from Australia and ends up doing something that leads to a court case, is Australia going to show up to pay his legal bills and to reimburse us of all related costs?
 

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Teren_Kanan;3438196 said:
Where did the $130,000 number come from? Did I misread something?

This operation cost WAY more than that.

The 11-hour flight cost an estimated 110,000 Australian dollars (US $94,500).
The Australian military also deployed two Orion aircraft to wait on an Indian Ocean island in case an airdrop or further assistance was needed. An Orion costs about AU$30,000 an hour to operate.


That right there beats $130,00, even if the 2 Orion's were only used for an hour (Unlikely?)

This doesn't count the cost of the second plane, or Frances involvement.

Not really adding anything to the thread, but I just don't understand where the 130,000 number came from

That's what I came up with. I missed the part about the two Orion aircraft at $30,000 per hour.

I just skimmed the article. I think the whole thing is stupid.
 

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What's the alternative? Ignore the distress signal because it causes you to go out of your way? Not send rescue planes because it costs the taxpayers money?

I prefer going a little overboard on stuff like this than not bothering at all.
 

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Ozzu;3438812 said:
What's the alternative? Ignore the distress signal because it causes you to go out of your way? Not send rescue planes because it costs the taxpayers money?

I prefer going a little overboard on stuff like this than not bothering at all.

Of course rescuers should respond to distress no matter what however in the end in situations like this the party involved should be charged a fine. This is a person’s own personal goal for their own fame. A fine may not cover the exact cost but it could make people think before they set out on a stunt like this in the future.
 

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Doomsday101;3436639 said:
This is not your typical day out boating that is like comparing a Sunday drive to running 500 miles at Daytona. I do think that insurance or some form or sponsorship should be required when taking on an endeavor like this.

Perhaps her dad could get an advance from the reality show deal he signed.
 

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Doomsday101;3438933 said:
Of course rescuers should respond to distress no matter what however in the end in situations like this the party involved should be charged a fine. This is a person’s own personal goal for their own fame. A fine may not cover the exact cost but it could make people think before they set out on a stunt like this in the future.

This. I'd be fine with a.. fine. One based on the family's income rather than how much was spent rescuing her.
 

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joseephuss;3435870 said:
During Shark Week one year I was watching a show about this woman who had been attacked by a shark. She was with a tour group and paid to go swimming with the sharks. It was out in the middle of nowhere. The U.S. Navy was able to get out to her and save her at considerable expense.

I don't think there should ever be a question of whether or not to do what you can to save someone. The questions should come after the fact about whether the person being rescued should be accountable for some of the cost. Of course depending on the situation you can get into some debates, but there are obvious cases where the people could throw in some money.

You see idiots all the time that need to be rescued because they tried to drive across a low water crossing during a severe storm. I have no problems if officials said they had to pay a fine or service fee for their rescue. I have no problem if they ask this kid or her parents to contribute a little something to her rescue effort. It was worth it to save her. It is also worth it to ask for something back in return. Heck, there would probably be plenty of people that would donate to help her pay a little something.

In a way it reminds me of this article I read a while ago.
 
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