Couple of things decided

[ejthedj]

DeMarcus Ware was a hands down DE in college too and played in a smaller school than Spencer.

The better way to state it is this: Spencer has had one productive season in college. His final season in college, he only registered three sacks. His production went down after Ray Edwards left for the pros.

Perfect example of a guy getting drafted because of physical attributes and not play on the field.

Ummm, you are so wrong--he was productive all 3 years, and had a great senior year. His junior year, he was banged up but still ok.

In 2004, Spencer played in 12 and started in 11. He registered 33 tackles and finished third on the team with 7.5 sacks and 9.5 stops for losses. He also batted down six passes and forced three fumbles, earning All-Big Ten Conference honorable mention.
Even though he started all 11 games in 2005, Spencer failed to match his 2004 exploits due to several minor injuries. He was limited to 23 tackles, three sacks, and 7.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage. He caused three fumbles and recovered another while also deflecting one pass.
Spencer's production exploded during his senior seasons. The Ted Hendricks Award (nation's top defensive end) finalist ranked second in the nation with 26.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage, the fifth-best season total in Big Ten Conference history. He finished second on the team with 93 tackles and first with 10.5 sacks. He also caused five fumbles and recovered another while batting away six passes and blocking one kick. (source Wikipedia)



Why are you making stuff up, just to be a hater?

 

[jackrussell]

Right on.


I think people are diluted if they think that Spencer is going to learn a whole new position as fast as Demarcus learned. That is just not going to happen.

Diluted?

 

[tomson75]

Diluted?

Just add water.

 

[jackrussell]

Just add water.

Ohhhh......gotcha.

 

[tomson75]

DeMarcus Ware was a hands down DE in college too and played in a smaller school than Spencer.

The better way to state it is this: Spencer has had one productive season in college. His final season in college, he only registered three sacks. His production went down after Ray Edwards left for the pros.

Perfect example of a guy getting drafted because of physical attributes and not play on the field.

As ethjdjqprtsefghi! already pointed out, other than the first sentence, there is absolutely nothing correct in this post. Nice try though.

 

[TunaFan33]

As ethjdjqprtsefghi! already pointed out, other than the first sentence, there is absolutely nothing correct in this post. Nice try though.

Do these trolls have anything better to do?

Isn't the new Rush Hour movie out? Good entertainment right there, I think.

 

[tomson75]

Do these trolls have anything better to do?

No.

Isn't the new Rush Hour movie out? Good entertainment right there, I think.

Hmmmm that's a good idea. Haven't caught a flick since the new Die Hard.

 

[Rack]

Why the hope not on #2 NE used a rookie kicker last year and he was better than many vets including the one we signed that had great kicking %

So far Folk has looked way better than Gramatica so I hope he does replace him if that is the case

That's a load of BS. ONE game Folk has looked "Way better" then Gramatica.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Carpenter was drafted and coached by Parcells. He's being further evaluated by Phillips. If two different coaches don't have the confidence in starting him, does his not starting fall on either coach or squarely on Carpenter's shoulders?

he was a raw rookie his first year and he started very soon after Ellis went down. He won the job. Who exactly was the first person that Phillips turned to when he needed another OLB? Thats right it was Carpenter.

 

[BlueStar22]

3. Spencer is not ready to start. Out of position on runs at the corner. Bit hard on the fake ISO right/pitch left. Didn't contain well.

wasn't that Junior Glymph?

 

[BrassCowboy]

Wow-last week, everyone was RAVING on Spencer, now we want to get off the bandwagon?

Sure-he's still in a learning curve, but if you want to use this logic, shouldn't we might as well bench Flo and Columbo for their subpar play yesterday as well?

well the thing is Spencer has a very good reason to be on a learning curve in the fact that he is still green.

I think that is all that they are trying to say.

 

[BlueStar22]

DeMarcus Ware was a hands down DE in college too and played in a smaller school than Spencer.

The better way to state it is this: Spencer has had one productive season in college. His final season in college, he only registered three sacks. His production went down after Ray Edwards left for the pros.

Perfect example of a guy getting drafted because of physical attributes and not play on the field.

Ware is a freak! He is a much superior athlete than Spencer is. School has nothing to do with it. Ware is the exceptioin to the rule.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't see why Carpenter shouldn't start out in Ellis' spot if Ellis can't go. He played well in the spot against seattle etc. I would think his experience would be needed.

I understand that Spencer's surperior pass rush and strength will eventually make him a superior option at the position, but in the mean time I think I'd prefer a guy in there who knows his reads and assignments as well as a year of NFL experience under his belt.

I'm not so sure Spencer isn't being handed the job, has Carpenter had a fair shot at competing for the position?

I said this a couple of days ago, that it wouldn't surprise me to see Carp start on 1st and 2nd downs and give way to Spencer in pass-rushing situations

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Stanback is just like Miles Austin except maybe a bit more explosive in terms of strength and speed. He also was a higher draft pick. Which means if Austin gets the boot . Austin is raw as all hell but he is really damn intriguing. Then again so was Tyron Calico and he is just terrible.

Hurd has been playing well. He can be the possession reciever after Glenn or TO leaves.

I wouldn't be surprised if Austin is one of the players Dallas is trying to get picks for

 

[Bob Sacamano]

DeMarcus Ware was a hands down DE in college too and played in a smaller school than Spencer.

The better way to state it is this: Spencer has had one productive season in college. His final season in college, he only registered three sacks. His production went down after Ray Edwards left for the pros.

Perfect example of a guy getting drafted because of physical attributes and not play on the field.

uh, he had 10.5 sacks and 26.5 tackles for loss his final year

 

[DallasEast]

he was a raw rookie his first year and he started very soon after Ellis went down. He won the job. Who exactly was the first person that Phillips turned to when he needed another OLB? Thats right it was Carpenter.

But Carpenter has had the opportunity to start after an injury under Parcells' tenure. Additionally, he has gotten more snaps under Phillips this preseason, but who has techniquely started most or all of the three games thus far: Carpenter or Spencer?

 

[BouncingCheese]

I think the idea of Carpenter playing on first and second downs is not that far fetched at all. My only thing was I thought Carpenter was going to beat out Ayodele for the other ILB spot, because Ayodele hasn't been playing so hot as far as I could tell in the preseason.

Seriously, all I know is that I don't really see any players besides Demarcus Ware creating any pressure. It is making us look bad and it will do worse than that if we can't generate any pressure. I know it is only preseason but it still sucks.

 

[fortdick]

wasn't that Junior Glymph?

Nope. Spencer.

 

[DallasEast]

I think the idea of Carpenter playing on first and second downs is not that far fetched at all. My only thing was I thought Carpenter was going to beat out Ayodele for the other ILB spot, because Ayodele hasn't been playing so hot as far as I could tell in the preseason.

Seriously, all I know is that I don't really see any players besides Demarcus Ware creating any pressure. It is making us look bad and it will do worse than that if we can't generate any pressure. I know it is only preseason but it still sucks.

I have similar thoughts and concerns, but instead of Carpenter and Ayodele--I'm in favor of Carpenter replacing Bradie James. Ayodele has a proven track record at inside linebacker which I think will resurface again during the regular season.

 

[fortdick]

I wouldn't be surprised if Austin is one of the players Dallas is trying to get picks for

Then keep him on the bench! His performance the past couple games isn;t raising his stock.