Cowboys 1st round draft board

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I believe it was Broaddus that said the Cowboys have 17 players ranking as 1st rounders with 1 QB in the 17.

Who are the 17?

Is the following list correct, if not which player(s) would not be in the list?

The current NFLDS top 17 are:
1 *Luke Joeckel
2 *Sharrif Floyd
3 Eric Fisher
4 Dion Jordan
5 Lane Johnson
6 *Dee Milliner
7 Ezekiel Ansah
8 Chance Warmack
9 Geno Smith
10 *Barkevious Mingo
11 *Xavier Rhodes
12 Jonathan Cooper
13 Tavon Austin
14 *Cordarrelle Patterson
15 Star Lotulelei
16 *Jarvis Jones
17 *Sheldon Richardson

Some other possibilities:
Sylvester Williams
*Tyler Eifert
*Bjoern Werner
Kenny Vaccaro
*D.J. Fluker
 

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I would take out Rhodes Mingo and Ansah. Insert Vaccaro, eifert, sly. Your list is probably pretty close though. Might have Reid in there.
 

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Are we sure Geno is the quarterback? The Syracuse qb is getting a lot of late pub and maybe a better fit for Garrett than Geno.
 

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Good list to start with and good thread idea.

Would Jones and Mingo fit the scheme enough to be 1st rounder on a Dallas-specific board?

I really doubt Geno Smith is in that 17.

I feel pretty sure that Vaccaro is in that list of 17. He may be 16 or 17, but he would be in there.

I think Patterson may not be in there.

Sly Williams and Werner are right on the fringes, imo. Eifert too.
 

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In the years where we had Lee and Carter listed with first round talent, how were they slotted by other raters?

Are there any injured players that should have first round grades?

A post had the kid from Princeton being a possible Jared Allen. Allen was drafted in the fourth but would be a one in a redraft.
 

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xwalker;5050647 said:
I believe it was Broaddus that said the Cowboys have 17 players ranking as 1st rounders with 1 QB in the 17.

Who are the 17?

Is the following list correct, if not which player(s) would not be in the list?

The current NFLDS top 17 are:
1 *Luke Joeckel
2 *Sharrif Floyd
3 Eric Fisher
4 Dion Jordan
5 Lane Johnson
6 *Dee Milliner
7 Ezekiel Ansah
8 Chance Warmack
9 Geno Smith
10 *Barkevious Mingo
11 *Xavier Rhodes
12 Jonathan Cooper
13 Tavon Austin
14 *Cordarrelle Patterson
15 Star Lotulelei
16 *Jarvis Jones
17 *Sheldon Richardson

Some other possibilities:
Sylvester Williams
*Tyler Eifert
*Bjoern Werner
Kenny Vaccaro
*D.J. Fluker
I don't think Austin or Jones are in their 1st round prospects.

The Cowboys have always been a team that wants bigger wrs and though they have a few shorter ones at the end of the roster I think when it comes to high picks they still want the bigger receivers.

I don't think Jarvis Jones really fits their defense. Weakside defensive end would be his best position in the Kiffin defense but the guys poor 40 time I think drops him to their second round.

Geno Smith might be in there just because he's a qb but he at least is in the not sure category.

I think Eifert and Vacarro are definitely in there. Broaddus has mentioned that he thinks that they have Vacarro ahead of Richardson. (although he personally does not)

I think Williams might be in there.

Broaddus has also said that the Cowboys have Fluker in the second round. I think he's giving good info - agree with him.

I think they have Werner in the 2nd.
 

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They may have Tank Carridine as a 1st round talent. Most folks had that before he tore his knee up.
 

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Just a guess
  1. Luke Joeckle
  2. Eric Fisher
  3. Star Lotulelei
  4. Lane Johnson
  5. Jonathan Cooper
  6. Chance Warmack
  7. Sharif Floyd
  8. Dee Miliner
  9. Dion Jordan
  10. Sheldon Richardson
  11. Ezeikal Ansah
  12. Kenny Vaccaro
  13. Xavier Rhodes
  14. Tavon Austin
  15. Sylvester Williams
  16. Bjorne Werner
  17. Tyler Eifert
If they think they can find a fit for Jarvis Jones or Mingo, then they slide in there somewhere and two drop off the list. Plus, Tavon is a wild card and may not be there either.
 

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speedkilz88;5050669 said:
I don't think Austin or Jones are in their 1st round prospects.

The Cowboys have always been a team that wants bigger wrs and though they have a few shorter ones at the end of the roster I think when it comes to high picks they still want the bigger receivers.

I don't think Jarvis Jones really fits their defense. Weakside defensive end would be his best position in the Kiffin defense but the guys poor 40 time I think drops him to their second round.

Geno Smith might be in there just because he's a qb but he at least is in the not sure category.

I think Eifert and Vacarro are definitely in there. Broaddus has mentioned that he thinks that they have Vacarro ahead of Richardson. (although he personally does not)

I think Williams might be in there.

Broaddus has also said that the Cowboys have Fluker in the second round. I think he's giving good info - agree with him.

I think they have Werner in the 2nd.


Talk about a stock market crash, the bottoms fallen out on Werners holdings,, a month ago someone would have called you insane for thinking he would drop out of the first.
 

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Not saying I agree with it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dallas has Reid ranked above Vacarro and teetering around that 17th pick.
 

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I think 17 players graded as a first rounder it makes it very likely that a first round pick will be on board at 18 and that makes it fairly unlikely to trade down unless it is just quarterback, Lacy and Eifert.
 

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Typhus;5050793 said:
Talk about a stock market crash, the bottoms fallen out on Werners holdings,, a month ago someone would have called you insane for thinking he would drop out of the first.
In this case I'm talking about the 17 players the Cowboys have rated 1st round picks with him not making the cut. Although I think it's certainly possible Werner could slide to the 2nd in the actual draft. He's not that great edge rusher teams drool over.
 

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I believe they have Patterson "in the box" and instead have R1 grades on at least one of Eifert/Fluker/Williams.

But the Cowboys always have a different board from the consensus so it's a wild guess.
 

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That's a good list. There may be a flyer or two in there. Don't know about Vacarro. I've warmed up a good bit to him as I've learned more about his athleticism. I won't be surprised either way about him. I agree Fluker belongs in the 2nd round although someone will likely take him in the first. I think he can play guard just not for us.
 

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cowboysooner;5050806 said:
I think 17 players graded as a first rounder it makes it very likely that a first round pick will be on board at 18 and that makes it fairly unlikely to trade down unless it is just quarterback, Lacy and Eifert.

That would mean the none (zero, nada, none) of the other teams take a player that is not on the Cowboys draft board.
 

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jterrell;5050820 said:
I believe they have Patterson "in the box" and instead have R1 grades on at least one of Eifert/Fluker/Williams.

But the Cowboys always have a different board from the consensus so it's a wild guess.

I thought Patterson's only issues were academics. I didn't think he had any behavioral problems.
 

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xwalker;5050855 said:
I thought Patterson's only issues were academics. I didn't think he had any behavioral problems.

Unless it's true about "hotel gate".
 

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jterrell;5050820 said:
I believe they have Patterson "in the box" and instead have R1 grades on at least one of Eifert/Fluker/Williams.

But the Cowboys always have a different board from the consensus so it's a wild guess.
Why would Patterson be in the box? If he has a drug history ok, but if it's the intelligence questions, I don't think they box a guy for that. I could see them downgrade the guy or maybe decide he isn't a fit for their scheme but that is still different from boxing the guy.
 
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