Cowboys 1st round draft board

[cowboysooner]

Correct. I am saying that Dallas will get to draft a first rounder on their board, which is very good; but also they can't trade down terribly far and expect to get a first rounder.

Obviously if they have some guys that the rest of the league sees as second or third rounders like Navorro Bowman or Shawn Lee rated as first rounders that would change things.

 

[xwalker]

Unless it's true about "hotel gate".

Is he the 2nd player in that ordeal? I saw that the other player was a late round type guy but I forget his name.

The only problem in putting too much emphasis on the hotel issue is that if players were sharing a room, then you don't know who is the primary perpetrator.

 

[dantheman41]

I believe they have Patterson "in the box" and instead have R1 grades on at least one of Eifert/Fluker/Williams.

But the Cowboys always have a different board from the consensus so it's a wild guess.

No way Patterson is in their 1st round grade. I've heard many say he might not even be a 1st round pick anymore. Especially guy with low character, and low football IQ. Vaccaro is definitely on their 1st round board.

Doubt Werner or Fluker are graded as 1st rounders either. Probably not Jarvis Jones either. Broaddus said they wouldn't draft him if he was on the board.

 

[dantheman41]

Question is, is Eifert or Sly a 1st round grade? Those are the two biggest question marks for me. Have no idea.

If those 2 are on board at 18, and none of the others will they take 1 or trade down?

 

[Verdict]

No way Patterson is in their 1st round grade. I've heard many say he might not even be a 1st round pick anymore. Especially guy with low character, and low football IQ. Vaccaro is definitely on their 1st round board.

Doubt Werner or Fluker are graded as 1st rounders either. Probably not Jarvis Jones either. Broaddus said they wouldn't draft him if he was on the board.

How can you be so definite about Vacarro? I have my doubts that they are that high on him.

 

[speedkilz88]

How can you be so definite about Vacarro? I have my doubts that they are that high on him.

Broaddus says they have him higher than Richardson. I doubt he's pulling that out of his behind.

 

[honyock]

Nice list xwalker. On nfl.com, Daniel Jeremiah has his top 50 "sequence list" up and the top 17 on his list differs from yours on three players. His doesn't include Mingo, Geno Smith and Patterson (he's got them at #22, 23 and 25). In their place, he has Eifert (10), Vaccaro (11) and Sly Williams (15).

He's very high on Williams. However, he's got Justin Pugh at #19, so, maybe that will influence anyone's opinion of his list.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1...-prospect-sequence-list-drives-team-decisions

 

[Kristen82]

In the years where we had Lee and Carter listed with first round talent, how were they slotted by other raters?

Are there any injured players that should have first round grades?

A post had the kid from Princeton being a possible Jared Allen. Allen was drafted in the fourth but would be a one in a redraft.

Did we have Carter as a 1st-rounder on our board? Thought with his injury history we would have had him down as a 2nd-rounder.

 

[MonsterD]

Is he the 2nd player in that ordeal? I saw that the other player was a late round type guy but I forget his name.

The only problem in putting too much emphasis on the hotel issue is that if players were sharing a room, then you don't know who is the primary perpetrator.

It is the internet rumor right now, no one has a credible source for it yet.

Oh I looked at it, here is the mysterious guy:
A trashed hotel room at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis belonged to Clemson wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins and Rutgers wide receiver Mark Harrison, according to league sources.
Recently, Yahoo! Sports reported that a room shared by two players was left in bad condition, but did not identify the occupants. It was learned this week, through multiple sources, that the room belonged to Hopkins and Harrison.

NFL sources said they believe Harrison is not responsible for what happened in the room.


ESPN-Schefter

 

[dools]

Are we sure Geno is the quarterback? The Syracuse qb is getting a lot of late pub and maybe a better fit for Garrett than Geno.[/quote
Its Barkley. I seriously doubt he is in consideration at 18 though.

 

[NeonDeion21]

I believe it was Broaddus that said the Cowboys have 17 players ranking as 1st rounders with 1 QB in the 17.

Who are the 17?

Is the following list correct, if not which player(s) would not be in the list?

The current NFLDS top 17 are:
1 *Luke Joeckel
2 *Sharrif Floyd
3 Eric Fisher
4 Dion Jordan
5 Lane Johnson
6 *Dee Milliner
7 Ezekiel Ansah
8 Chance Warmack
9 Geno Smith
10 *Barkevious Mingo
11 *Xavier Rhodes
12 Jonathan Cooper
13 Tavon Austin
14 *Cordarrelle Patterson
15 Star Lotulelei
16 *Jarvis Jones
17 *Sheldon Richardson

Some other possibilities:
Sylvester Williams
*Tyler Eifert
*Bjoern Werner
Kenny Vaccaro
*D.J. Fluker

Here is how I think Dallas has them:
1. Eric Fisher
2. Luke Joeckel
3. Shariff Floyd
4. Lane Johnson
5. Dion Jordan
6. Jonathan Cooper
7. Chance Warmack
8. Sheldon Richardson
9. Star Lotulelei
10. Ziggy Ansah
11. Barkevious Mingo
12. Tavon Austin
13. Sylvester Williams
14. Kenny Vaccaro
15. Tyler Eiffert
16. Datone Jones (I wish he would be higher)
17. Dee Milliner
18. D.J. Fluker
19. Geno Smith
20. Bjorn Werner

 

[Bware_Dware]

I believe it was Broaddus that said the Cowboys have 17 players ranking as 1st rounders with 1 QB in the 17.

Who are the 17?

Is the following list correct, if not which player(s) would not be in the list?

The current NFLDS top 17 are:
1 *Luke Joeckel
2 *Sharrif Floyd
3 Eric Fisher
4 Dion Jordan
5 Lane Johnson
6 *Dee Milliner
7 Ezekiel Ansah
8 Chance Warmack
9 Geno Smith
10 *Barkevious Mingo
11 *Xavier Rhodes
12 Jonathan Cooper
13 Tavon Austin
14 *Cordarrelle Patterson
15 Star Lotulelei
16 *Jarvis Jones
17 *Sheldon Richardson

Some other possibilities:
Sylvester Williams
*Tyler Eifert
*Bjoern Werner
Kenny Vaccaro
*D.J. Fluker

Interesting seeing as how Dallas picks 18 and they only have 17 1st talent according to their board....

 

[skinsscalper]

Did we have Carter as a 1st-rounder on our board? Thought with his injury history we would have had him down as a 2nd-rounder.

IIRC, Kristen, we had him rated as a first round talent but his injury dropped him. Lee was an almost identical situation.

 

[ThreeandOut]

IIRC, Kristen, we had him rated as a first round talent but his injury dropped him. Lee was an almost identical situation.

My recollection is that Lee actually had a first round grade on their draft board. They considered Carter to be a first round talent but did not actually have a first round grade on him due to his injury situation. The difference in the two situations is that Lee was ready to participate in training camp whereas they knew Carter was not going to be available for training camp or the start of the season.

I think it's very possible that there is at least one player with a first round grade that would not be a consensus first rounder on most draft boards (e.g. like Lee and Navarro Bowman). I think Reid would be the most likely candidate. Also, I think it's very likely tht they viewed Carradine like they did Carter.

 

[xwalker]

Interesting seeing as how Dallas picks 18 and they only have 17 1st talent according to their board....

In order for Dallas to not get one of the 17, that would mean that none (zero, nada, none) of the other teams take a player that is not on the Cowboys draft board.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'll be happy if we can get BPA who fills a need be it OL, DL or safety with our 1st pick.

 

[ThreeandOut]

I'll be happy if we can get BPA who fills a need be it OL, DL or safety with our 1st pick.

I think the chances are pretty good that there will be an OL, DL or safety that they have a first round grade available at 18. They will stay at 18 and take that player.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think the chances are pretty good that there will be an OL, DL or safety that they have a first round grade available at 18. They will stay at 18 and take that player.

I hope so, only way I would move back in by swapping 1st rd picks and getting an additional 3rd or 2nd rd pick in the process. However I think staying at 18 and getting that OL, DL or safety is the best bet.