Cowboys 2023: A fan base divided

[Runwildboys]

Easy:

Bookmark this for when you ask me again in a month or so when you ignore I already answered...

My alternative is to sign a much cheaper QB and have the same success that we have with Dak while looking for an actual QB that's worth that top pay. As I said you can lead the NFL in INTs and fail in the playoffs for much cheaper than you're paying Dak.

I don't think it's as difficult as some want to make it. The only thing that makes it difficult is hitching your wagons to a QB that needs a ton of help like the Cowboys have done for the past 15 years with Dak and Romo. Even then if you want to you can be on the hunt for your future QB. The last time the Cowboys took the QB position seriously was when they drafted Aikman.

I use the Rams as an example all the time. If Goff played for the Cowboys and led us to the Super Bowl like he did the Rams he would've been our QB for the next 15 years. Instead, the Rams knew he was a weak link, moved on, traded for Stafford, and instantly won the Super Bowl. Jerry would've NEVER moved on from that. That's an example of a team making a trade to get a missing piece.

Here's the other route the Cowboys refuse to do.... The Cowboys would've never traded up to draft Mahomes in a year that Alex Smith led them to the playoffs. Jerry and Co would have been 100% happy with that and would think they just need to put more help around Smith refusing to see that Smith is the weakness here. That's an example of a team taking a chance and drafting a QB, letting him sit a year, and then giving him the chance.

Then you have the Bucs and Brady. The Bucs moved on from Winston and signed Brady and instantly won the Super Bowl. The Cowboys could've signed Brady, but they didn't, because they didn't want to risk it or move on from Dak. That's an example of a team signing a high level veteran QB and it changing the whole franchise.

The last 3 Super Bowl champs have been teams that were taking the QB position seriously and either draft, sign, or trade for a QB while moving on from a weak link at the position.

So, it's simple really to me. You draft, sign, or trade for a QB. If it doesn't work out then oh well, because it's not working out with Dak either, but you have to take the risks to get the rewards.

Now that's an answer, thank you. I understand where you're coming from, but Dak is much better than Goff or Smith. Brady might have gotten us to the SB, but he seemed to be in decline when the Bucs took him, which is why the Patriots were willing to let him go.

I'm not a Dakophant, but his ints last season were an anomaly, so throwing that into your reasoning was a cheap shot, and moot. No bargain basement QB is going to get us to the promised land, that's why nobody else is paying them.

This roster has a "no excuses" feel to it, and if Dak can't get us to the SB this year (barring unforeseen circumstances) I'm all for letting him go and seeing what the next few years can bring.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Now that's an answer, thank you. I understand where you're coming from, but Dak is much better than Goff or Smith. Brady might have gotten us to the SB, but he seemed to be in decline when the Bucs took him, which is why the Patriots were willing to let him go.

I'm not a Dakophant, but his ints last season were an anomaly, so throwing that into your reasoning was a cheap shot, and moot. No bargain basement QB is going to get us to the promised land, that's why nobody else is paying them.

This roster has a "no excuses" feel to it, and if Dak can't get us to the SB this year (barring unforeseen circumstances) I'm all for letting him go and seeing what the next few years can bring.

I have a feeling whenever Dak signs that new deal the ones saying "If year 8 isn't the year then I'll finally be ready to move on" will change their tune.

Because they think you are required to support bad players as long as that star is on the helmet.

That's why I say Dak fans and Cowboy fans are not one in the same. I, as a Cowboys fan, could never root for and support a player that's holding my team back.

 

[75boyz]

Easy:

Bookmark this for when you ask me again in a month or so when you ignore I already answered...

My alternative is to sign a much cheaper QB and have the same success that we have with Dak while looking for an actual QB that's worth that top pay. As I said you can lead the NFL in INTs and fail in the playoffs for much cheaper than you're paying Dak.

I don't think it's as difficult as some want to make it. The only thing that makes it difficult is hitching your wagons to a QB that needs a ton of help like the Cowboys have done for the past 15 years with Dak and Romo. Even then if you want to you can be on the hunt for your future QB. The last time the Cowboys took the QB position seriously was when they drafted Aikman.

I use the Rams as an example all the time. If Goff played for the Cowboys and led us to the Super Bowl like he did the Rams he would've been our QB for the next 15 years. Instead, the Rams knew he was a weak link, moved on, traded for Stafford, and instantly won the Super Bowl. Jerry would've NEVER moved on from that. That's an example of a team making a trade to get a missing piece.

Here's the other route the Cowboys refuse to do.... The Cowboys would've never traded up to draft Mahomes in a year that Alex Smith led them to the playoffs. Jerry and Co would have been 100% happy with that and would think they just need to put more help around Smith refusing to see that Smith is the weakness here. That's an example of a team taking a chance and drafting a QB, letting him sit a year, and then giving him the chance.

Then you have the Bucs and Brady. The Bucs moved on from Winston and signed Brady and instantly won the Super Bowl. The Cowboys could've signed Brady, but they didn't, because they didn't want to risk it or move on from Dak. That's an example of a team signing a high level veteran QB and it changing the whole franchise.

The last 3 Super Bowl champs have been teams that were taking the QB position seriously and either draft, sign, or trade for a QB while moving on from a weak link at the position.

So, it's simple really to me. You draft, sign, or trade for a QB. If it doesn't work out then oh well, because it's not working out with Dak either, but you have to take the risks to get the rewards.

Very very strong post Mountain. Props on spelling it out this way and providing the specific example alternatives to just staying comfortable with DivisionLoss Prescott.

Excellent read especially for those who would prefer to stay in their Jerry comfort zone and never want to risk achieving championship level potential at the most important position in all of sports.

 

[shabazz]

I want Dak to play this year, and I’ll root for him to succeed. But one of the reasons I want him to play is because if he can’t go to the NFC ‘ship with this insane defense and receiving core, then I think that will be the final nail in the coffin for me.

I don’t know if the FO feels the same way, but I’m willing to root for him and my team one last year. Hope he proves himself, but history isn’t in his favor

What choice do we have but to “want Dak to play” and “to root for him”?

I blame the FO 100% for not having quality depth or a real competition at the quarterback position.

Cooper Rush did an admirable job but he’s just below average and with a team that’s ready to win it all I find it hard to understand why he the best option available when we could have drafted or signed a better option the last 4 years.

 

[Hadenough]

Easy:

Bookmark this for when you ask me again in a month or so when you ignore I already answered...

My alternative is to sign a much cheaper QB and have the same success that we have with Dak while looking for an actual QB that's worth that top pay. As I said you can lead the NFL in INTs and fail in the playoffs for much cheaper than you're paying Dak.

I don't think it's as difficult as some want to make it. The only thing that makes it difficult is hitching your wagons to a QB that needs a ton of help like the Cowboys have done for the past 15 years with Dak and Romo. Even then if you want to you can be on the hunt for your future QB. The last time the Cowboys took the QB position seriously was when they drafted Aikman.

I use the Rams as an example all the time. If Goff played for the Cowboys and led us to the Super Bowl like he did the Rams he would've been our QB for the next 15 years. Instead, the Rams knew he was a weak link, moved on, traded for Stafford, and instantly won the Super Bowl. Jerry would've NEVER moved on from that. That's an example of a team making a trade to get a missing piece.

Here's the other route the Cowboys refuse to do.... The Cowboys would've never traded up to draft Mahomes in a year that Alex Smith led them to the playoffs. Jerry and Co would have been 100% happy with that and would think they just need to put more help around Smith refusing to see that Smith is the weakness here. That's an example of a team taking a chance and drafting a QB, letting him sit a year, and then giving him the chance.

Then you have the Bucs and Brady. The Bucs moved on from Winston and signed Brady and instantly won the Super Bowl. The Cowboys could've signed Brady, but they didn't, because they didn't want to risk it or move on from Dak. That's an example of a team signing a high level veteran QB and it changing the whole franchise.

The last 3 Super Bowl champs have been teams that were taking the QB position seriously and either draft, sign, or trade for a QB while moving on from a weak link at the position.

So, it's simple really to me. You draft, sign, or trade for a QB. If it doesn't work out then oh well, because it's not working out with Dak either, but you have to take the risks to get the rewards.

Well said!!

 

[ShortRound]

Feel like the less I come to CZ the healthier my mind is.

 

[baltcowboy]

Get lost you bunch of trolls.

This board is gonna implode with Dak’s extension. Hopefully the trolls will leave.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It's a divide between Dak fans and Cowboys fans.

They are not the same.

The Bash Dak over Dallas Cult speaks.

They are not Cowboys fans

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Yes, another one of Dak's unfortunate accomplishments is a fan base that is significantly divided over Dak.
Cowboy nation hold tight as the worst is yet to come.......






I have no need to post pro-Dak videos as the Dak clan here provides enough material for the other side of the coin.

No matter what, Dak is better than Romo and he forced him out of the league. That will never change.

Time for you to take down the Romo poster from your bedroom ceiling.

Extend Dak NOW

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Easy:

Bookmark this for when you ask me again in a month or so when you ignore I already answered...

My alternative is to sign a much cheaper QB and have the same success that we have with Dak while looking for an actual QB that's worth that top pay. As I said you can lead the NFL in INTs and fail in the playoffs for much cheaper than you're paying Dak.

I don't think it's as difficult as some want to make it. The only thing that makes it difficult is hitching your wagons to a QB that needs a ton of help like the Cowboys have done for the past 15 years with Dak and Romo. Even then if you want to you can be on the hunt for your future QB. The last time the Cowboys took the QB position seriously was when they drafted Aikman.

I use the Rams as an example all the time. If Goff played for the Cowboys and led us to the Super Bowl like he did the Rams he would've been our QB for the next 15 years. Instead, the Rams knew he was a weak link, moved on, traded for Stafford, and instantly won the Super Bowl. Jerry would've NEVER moved on from that. That's an example of a team making a trade to get a missing piece.

Here's the other route the Cowboys refuse to do.... The Cowboys would've never traded up to draft Mahomes in a year that Alex Smith led them to the playoffs. Jerry and Co would have been 100% happy with that and would think they just need to put more help around Smith refusing to see that Smith is the weakness here. That's an example of a team taking a chance and drafting a QB, letting him sit a year, and then giving him the chance.

Then you have the Bucs and Brady. The Bucs moved on from Winston and signed Brady and instantly won the Super Bowl. The Cowboys could've signed Brady, but they didn't, because they didn't want to risk it or move on from Dak. That's an example of a team signing a high level veteran QB and it changing the whole franchise.

The last 3 Super Bowl champs have been teams that were taking the QB position seriously and either draft, sign, or trade for a QB while moving on from a weak link at the position.

So, it's simple really to me. You draft, sign, or trade for a QB. If it doesn't work out then oh well, because it's not working out with Dak either, but you have to take the risks to get the rewards.

So you are essentially blaming Jerry for Cowboys failures.

That I can agree with.

 

[Yobwocs]

Tom Brady was never coming to the Cowboys. The year that Mahomes was drafted, Dallas went 13-3. Most Cowboys fans would not be on board with tanking that year to draft Mahomes - at the time.

Reality check time.

 

[ChuckA1]

Look, I'm a deep Cowboys fan and have been for 61 years. I get tired of all the singling out of a player to hate, but I'm not going to tell someone they're not a fan. Frankly, I don't care what others think. Go Cowboys

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Feel like the less I come to CZ the healthier my mind is.

It’s true man….that’s where we are at. Gotta take time or put the trolls on ignore.

 

[McMicah]

What choice do we have but to “want Dak to play” and “to root for him”?

I blame the FO 100% for not having quality depth or a real competition at the quarterback position.

Cooper Rush did an admirable job but he’s just below average and with a team that’s ready to win it all I find it hard to understand why he the best option available when we could have drafted or signed a better option the last 4 years.

Agreed. I think the best teams draft high at qb even when they are secure. Won’t be surprised if KC and Iggles draft a qb high in the next few years. But will we? With this FO, probably not. I’d LOVE to see a 1st rounder that the cowboys like come in and just make Dak nervous

 

[Beaker42]

My dream would be to win a Super Bowl after:
Jerry having to step down as GM, temporarily even, and McClay step in.
McCheese be replaced by Quinn and Dak be benched for Rush.

If the Cowboys won a Lombardi in spite of those 3 position holders, everyone on this board would start calling me a homer because of my positivite posts that would be so constant.

Imagine that.
Lol

Cooper Rush - really? Please. After watching Rush s**t the bed against the Eagles you still think he's better than Dak? We got LUCKY with our schedule and D stepping up when Rush "saved" the season. He got worse every succeeding game.

 

[75boyz]

Cooper Rush - really? Please. After watching Rush s**t the bed against the Eagles you still think he's better than Dak? We got LUCKY with our schedule and D stepping up when Rush "saved" the season. He got worse every succeeding game.

Naw, don't get it twisted.
I could give 2 ***** about who actually holds the title of the 3 most important positions to my NFL team success as GM, HC and QB1.

AS LONG AS it ain't the current 3. They suck at their jobs.

Yeah, please.

 

[ESisback]

Dumb statement, there are plenty out there that are cowboys fans that realize dak has plenty of blemishes and is not elite but good enough especially with the defense this team has.

You try to make it sound like you can't be both supportive of dak and the cowboys which is just a dumb statement..I know how much you dislike dak but come on man

There are a few here who no doubt would derive more pleasure from a repeat of 2022 than a Cowboy SB appearance.

 

[Vanilla2]

Just a repeat of the Romo years. We fall for this garbage all the time because we aren’t smart enough to purge the trolls off these boards and other places where they have too loud of a voice

 

[Buzzbait]

And how do you propose we replace him? Should we tank a season and hope we can get a surefire elite QB in the draft?

People keep asking them that question and they keep not answering it.
Maybe that's because it's a fair question with no easy answer.

 

[Momanpr100]

Your avatar picture is comedy enough thank you.