Cowboys 2023: A fan base divided

[starfan1]

The fanbase has been divided for probably 10+ years

 

[CowboysDrew]

60% of the fan base is positive this year about Dak and the team. That leave about 40% that have been brainwashed by the media and the trolls.

I try to take the reasonable position and not have an opinion because every season is different.

I have my feelings about Dak, they're mediocre but I fully understand he's good enough to win.

My issue with him is this. I know he can win games. But can he win four games against top level competition in a row? That's what he needs to do to get a ring..

Well, he doesn't elevate the team to do it. He's not in what I've seen consistent enough to guarantee that'll happen. But with the right coaching and team around him, I think it's possible.

So that makes me positive about this year. Dak's not going to win it for the team but he could lose it if it goes south at the wrong time. I hope that his mistakes are minimized by good coaching and help. I hope he gets consistent for a streak at the right time that we have seen he's capable of.

This is how it is, but it's not a sexy opinion. It says "I don't know" to the question of "Can we win it all?". I don't know is an answer people hate but it's usually the truest.

But yeah, the "Dak is worse than Rush and I actively root for him to fail because he's so bad" group is hyperbole. He's not that bad, they know it. It's rare to ever see anyone that bad that lasts. The Cowboys have had QB's that the FO have been behind that WERE that bad and they didn't hitch their wagon to them. Chad Huchenson, Drew Henson in recent memory.

There are rare times that it is necessary to root for your team to lose for the powers in charge to get their minds right. Dallas isn't in that. As an Auburn fan and grad, I will tell you, I rooted against my Alma Mater last year while Bryan Harsin was coach because the Boosters and AD needed to have it drilled in that the man had to go. He took care of the problem himself and yeah, he was out the door with massive damage to the program that will take years to fix. He ran off our QB that might be a 1st round pick next year.

Dallas isn't even close to in that kind of cellar with Prescott. I'd prefer Mahomes but, heck, who wouldn't?

 

[DandyDon52]

So you're saying you're willing to literally "tank" ANY unknown number of seasons while searching for one of those very few elite QBs, however many seasons that may take.
I'd like an elite QB too, but I'd rather try and find a better way to accomplish it.

I would only tank if a QB that I wanted was coming out in the next draft. If no qb's I think are special, then dont tank.

The other thing is right now we have a avg qb, but he makes 40mil, soon to be more, and you can get other non elite qb's much cheaper.
Then keep adding to the defense and other positions of need.

The dinucci I saw in the nfl would be as good if not better than dak, and he would cost about 5 mil a year.

 

[DandyDon52]

What choice do we have but to “want Dak to play” and “to root for him”?

I blame the FO 100% for not having quality depth or a real competition at the quarterback position.

Cooper Rush did an admirable job but he’s just below average and with a team that’s ready to win it all I find it hard to understand why he the best option available when we could have drafted or signed a better option the last 4 years.

that is the way jerry wants it lol.
I think he made dak sit for the 1st philly game last year, and had rush play, with a game plan that was designed to lose.
The last thing jerry wanted was for rush to beat phil. He doesnt want any qb controversy.

And you may have a hard time understanding jerry and why he does what he does, because he is kinda insane.
Insane people are hard to understand.Same for dumb people and jerry is a little dumb too.

 

[DandyDon52]

And how do you propose we replace him? Should we tank a season and hope we can get a surefire elite QB in the draft?

no you dont tank unless you know a real good qb is coming out the next season.
let dak go and sign a qb like dinucci, McDough,Perez, for about 3 mil a year , and use the other $ to beef up defense and offense.
you might get to a SB like that, and more fun to watch.

Dinucci had a very good season in xfl, top qb in the league, and looked nothing like he did with cowboys.
The other 2 I mentioned were both very good QB's.

 

[rambo2]

I would only tank if a QB that I wanted was coming out in the next draft. If no qb's I think are special, then dont tank.

The other thing is right now we have a avg qb, but he makes 40mil, soon to be more, and you can get other non elite qb's much cheaper.
Then keep adding to the defense and other positions of need.

The dinucci I saw in the nfl would be as good if not better than dak, and he would cost about 5 mil a year.

Lol, this is one of the funniest things I have read on this site. Ben Dinucci? Are you kidding? Dak is not an average qb. He is way above average. 32 starters in the league and he is in the top 8.

 

[Jake]

It's a divide between Dak fans and Cowboys fans.

They are not the same.

Clown post. Pump the brakes.

 

[Jake]

Yes, another one of Dak's unfortunate accomplishments is a fan base that is significantly divided over Dak.
Cowboy nation hold tight as the worst is yet to come.......

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I have no need to post pro-Dak videos as the Dak clan here provides enough material for the other side of the coin.

We're on the same page - we want to win another Super Bowl - we just do not agree on whether Dak can do it.

Trying to split the fan base is just message board clown show nonsense. Some folks expose themselves here.

 

[GINeric]

FYI he is a Wentz fan. Argued incessantly and supported him vehemently. He is a closet Eagles fan

I already figured out and exposed that weak fraudulent coward long ago.

 

[Momanpr100]

What would they post about if not about Dak.

Literally nothing else. Literally

They sure don't post nothing about the Cowboys that's for sure.

 

[Big D]

I would only tank if a QB that I wanted was coming out in the next draft. If no qb's I think are special, then dont tank.

The other thing is right now we have a avg qb, but he makes 40mil, soon to be more, and you can get other non elite qb's much cheaper.
Then keep adding to the defense and other positions of need.

The dinucci I saw in the nfl would be as good if not better than dak, and he would cost about 5 mil a year.

This guy? Are you sure about that?

 

[Bigrandrn]

He’s in control of how fans view him. If Dak had a playoff run like Troy did in 92, well, those skeptics might change their mind about him.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

We're on the same page - we want to win another Super Bowl - we just do not agree on whether Dak can do it.

Trying to split the fan base is just message board clown show nonsense. Some folks expose themselves here.

Thanks for the clown comment.
Now if you think I am responsible for splitting the fan base well you give me more credit than I deserve.
Keep up the good work mod man.

 

[Hadenough]

It's a divide between Dak fans and Cowboys fans.

They are not the same.

Exactly! These Dak bots have gone into attack mode against anyone that doesn't agree with them. They simply cannot let Cowboy fans have their own opinion.

 

[Flamma]

I try to take the reasonable position and not have an opinion because every season is different.

I have my feelings about Dak, they're mediocre but I fully understand he's good enough to win.

My issue with him is this. I know he can win games. But can he win four games against top level competition in a row? That's what he needs to do to get a ring..

Well, he doesn't elevate the team to do it. He's not in what I've seen consistent enough to guarantee that'll happen. But with the right coaching and team around him, I think it's possible.

So that makes me positive about this year. Dak's not going to win it for the team but he could lose it if it goes south at the wrong time. I hope that his mistakes are minimized by good coaching and help. I hope he gets consistent for a streak at the right time that we have seen he's capable of.

I agree with this take. Look at the Rams in 2018. They had the coaching and the team around Jared Goff. Who wasn't as good back then as he is now. If he can get there, so can a team with Dak.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Exactly! These Dak bots have gone into attack mode against anyone that doesn't agree with them. They simply cannot let Cowboy fans have their own opinion.

And it's not only them.......dang wonder if there's a circus in town?

 

[CowboyoWales]

I would only tank if a QB that I wanted was coming out in the next draft. If no qb's I think are special, then dont tank.

In two successive drafts we've over drafted guy's we like. I trust McClay, no need to tank, just find a QB.
This season hopefully gets some consensus as to the divide.... this is probably the most all-round roster we're likely to have.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I try to take the reasonable position and not have an opinion because every season is different.

I have my feelings about Dak, they're mediocre but I fully understand he's good enough to win.

My issue with him is this. I know he can win games. But can he win four games against top level competition in a row? That's what he needs to do to get a ring..

Well, he doesn't elevate the team to do it. He's not in what I've seen consistent enough to guarantee that'll happen. But with the right coaching and team around him, I think it's possible.

So that makes me positive about this year. Dak's not going to win it for the team but he could lose it if it goes south at the wrong time. I hope that his mistakes are minimized by good coaching and help. I hope he gets consistent for a streak at the right time that we have seen he's capable of.

This is how it is, but it's not a sexy opinion. It says "I don't know" to the question of "Can we win it all?". I don't know is an answer people hate but it's usually the truest.

But yeah, the "Dak is worse than Rush and I actively root for him to fail because he's so bad" group is hyperbole. He's not that bad, they know it. It's rare to ever see anyone that bad that lasts. The Cowboys have had QB's that the FO have been behind that WERE that bad and they didn't hitch their wagon to them. Chad Huchenson, Drew Henson in recent memory.

There are rare times that it is necessary to root for your team to lose for the powers in charge to get their minds right. Dallas isn't in that. As an Auburn fan and grad, I will tell you, I rooted against my Alma Mater last year while Bryan Harsin was coach because the Boosters and AD needed to have it drilled in that the man had to go. He took care of the problem himself and yeah, he was out the door with massive damage to the program that will take years to fix. He ran off our QB that might be a 1st round pick next year.

Dallas isn't even close to in that kind of cellar with Prescott. I'd prefer Mahomes but, heck, who wouldn't?

And, with this team, I feel excited about the season. We've got kicking competition, which was a problem in the playoffs. We've addressed NT in a big way, which we haven't since 1991 with Russell Maryland. This addressed the biggest weakness we had on defence. I think he will take time to adjust to NFL speed, which is normal for a NT, but, when he gets in gear, watch out. This defence is going to be so dangerously fun to watch. We also got a veteran CB opposite Diggs, which should feed more passes to Diggs, which should give us more interceptions. I love the trade for Cooks. Last year, we didn't have much at WR. Now, we do. I think that should help Dak a lot. Every QB needs weapons. Aikman had Harper opposite Irvin. That makes a huge difference. Hopefully, Cooks can be Lamb's Harper, if you catch my drift. I'm excited for the season, and training camp should be fun.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I would only tank if a QB that I wanted was coming out in the next draft. If no qb's I think are special, then dont tank.

The other thing is right now we have a avg qb, but he makes 40mil, soon to be more, and you can get other non elite qb's much cheaper.
Then keep adding to the defense and other positions of need.

The dinucci I saw in the nfl would be as good if not better than dak, and he would cost about 5 mil a year.

However, I think this team has a lot more talent than last year. Frankly, even if we wanted to tank, the only way that happens is if Dak and/or Parsons get injured long term or if Dak really chokes this season. I don't think Dak will. Frankly, I think that some of the issues last year were that he had only one good WR, a WR coming off an ACL injury, tight ends, Zeke, and Pollard as WRs. Now we have Lamb, Cooks, and Gallup should be better now that he should be completely healed from the ACL injury. Also, I think our TEs will be better with Schoonmacher. I'm very intrigued and excited to watch training camp this year.

 

[DogFace]

It's a divide between Dak fans and Cowboys fans.

They are not the same.

Again, you're forgetting how stupid you can be.