Cowboys brass admits NFL is QB-driven league, in words and actions

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I'll walk you through it.....you said

I said......

This means, we do need to concentrate on the run game (especially as the 49ers see this as the way to beat us)......


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Just stay in the dark and strut like a turkey...come line up over me.
First thing I learned as a linebacker was to hit the offensive tackle firing out on the crown of his helmet and then hit his face mask with a forearm. When he stood up as an angry bull I was by him making the tackle.

Find someone else to explain to you what the bull in the china closet drill was...but come Halloween ask someone to explain to you what 'activities' first year lettermen did for the benefit of the student body at Texas A&I. It wouldn't mean a thing past amusement to YOU if you could even understand. :popcorn: :facepalm:
 

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Wide Receiver​

It’s still far too early in camp to make any claims about who has earned a roster spot or any real playing time, but strong buzz for Jalen Tolbert out of OTAs and minicamp has carried over into his second training camp with the team thus far. Veteran acquisition Brandin Cooks has even had praise for the approach Tolbert has taken after all but redshirting his rookie year, and the duo of Tolbert and Cooks hold the keys to if Dallas has finally figured out how to consistently have enough for Dak Prescott out wide.

CeeDee Lamb establishing himself as a top notch WR1 is still one of the best things to come from what ended up being the final year of Moore’s offense, and of course he figures to stay in this role and develop even more in McCarthy’s scheme. Counting on further progression from Michael Gallup another year removed from ACL surgery, Tolbert to keep his upward trajectory going, and Cooks to remain a consistent veteran is as good a plan as the Cowboys have had at WR in a while - but still comes with palpable risk at every spot outside of Lamb.

This makes the route concepts and play designs from McCarthy that can get these receivers more open looks than before all the more important, and was my top position to watch for a noticeable change in how the Cowboys approach the offense going forward.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ffense-improvements-wide-receivers-tight-ends


The Cowboys pass rush is unrelenting, giving McCarthy’s side of the ball plenty of opportunity to practice scramble drills and hot throws while they sort out their own pass protection across the line - another unproven area these tight ends will need work in, in addition to sealing the edge for Tony Pollard and this stable of running backs.

Targeting the middle of the field is a staple of every dominant offense in today’s NFL, and if the Cowboys are going to feel they have one of these offenses under McCarthy, they’ll need a tight end or two to step up in a big way.
 
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If Dak can't succeed in a dialed down custom designed offense for him, then what is left?
My point is that I don't think that basic WC principles play to Dak's strengths. He's not good at short passes to the backs.
 

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My point is that I don't think that basic WC principles play to Dak's strengths. He's not good at short passes to the backs.
He shouldn't have much adaptation with arm strength for deep throws. Depends upon play developments, but his receiver group is really deep and top notched. Oh, he'll complete plenty of passes.
 

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My point is that I don't think that basic WC principles play to Dak's strengths. He's not good at short passes to the backs.
He shouldn't have much adaptation with arm strength for deep throws. Depends upon play developments, but his receiver group is really deep and top notched. Oh, he'll complete plenty of passes.
@CCBoy , I think you've missed the point. He's not necessarily talking about arm strength he's saying Dak's strength's which I assume he means (as he's referenced WC principles) utilizing quicker, timed patters rather than Air Coryell with it's options and reliance upon waiting for the routes to develop.
 

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If Dak can't succeed in a dialed down custom designed offense for him, then what is left?
$125M in guarantees, AT&T, Adidas, Beats by Dre, Campbell's Chunky Soup, Direct TV, 7-Eleven, New Era, Sleep Number, Oikos, Pepsi, Citibank, and a MBA.:)

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@CCBoy , I think you've missed the point. He's not necessarily talking about arm strength he's saying Dak's strength's which I assume he means (as he's referenced WC principles) utilizing quicker, timed patters rather than Air Coryell with it's options and reliance upon waiting for the routes to develop.
Always assuming ... no my arm strength was to showing greater 20+ completions with higher rates of success and that opening up more short routes and running. Arm strength is very relevant. Style was not lost on reference, at all.

And all of that still boils down to recognition and calling plays by Dak and his 2.5 seconds...that he already is good at doing, even under pressure.
 

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So true.
 

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I would invest it in a ranch running alongside the King Ranch...fruit trees, bass/catfish pond and all.
I have feeders in my bass/catfish ponds, sunrise/sunset, feed those dogs like champion Bull Mastiff diet, they are spoiled and mostly catch and release but enough keepers to sustain the balance.
I have managed to raise some 15lb Peacock Bass in an amazingly medium sized pond.
 

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I have feeders in my bass/catfish ponds, sunrise/sunset, feed those dogs like champion Bull Mastiff diet, they are spoiled and mostly catch and release but enough keepers to sustain the balance.
I have managed to raise some 15lb Peacock Bass in an amazingly medium sized pond.
I use to feed my catfish, dog food each spring and my geese and ducks would go crazy.
 

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So McCarthy was lying when he said they needed to run the ball more and not be aggressive, like they were under Kellen Moore?
 

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So McCarthy was lying when he said they needed to run the ball more and not be aggressive, like they were under Kellen Moore?
He has to maintain an even flow of game interactions that gives some time off the field to the defense as well. The role of a 20 yard pass will be needed to keep it all in rhythm. There will be enough running to allow for sustained movements down the field. That is where running will tend to highlight selections. Sometimes that will show up in second halves as well.
 

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He shouldn't have much adaptation with arm strength for deep throws. Depends upon play developments, but his receiver group is really deep and top notched. Oh, he'll complete plenty of passes.
The problem with Dak's deep ball was never lack of arm strength, but lack of technique and too much conservatism relative to the defender. As long as his footwork is sound, Dak throws a nice deep ball now.
Over the top deep balls also avoid a weak spot - throwing to receivers moving into the range of new defenders.
 

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@CCBoy , I think you've missed the point. He's not necessarily talking about arm strength he's saying Dak's strength's which I assume he means (as he's referenced WC principles) utilizing quicker, timed patters rather than Air Coryell with it's options and reliance upon waiting for the routes to develop.
Ah, you explained the miscommunication to me.
You got it.
I meant "strength" like "strong suit", not strength like bench press or dumbbell curls.
But I wasn't talking about those particular issues of WC that you bring up, but just more short passes, particularly to the RBs. Dak just doesn't place the ball well on short passes to RBs.
 

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The problem with Dak's deep ball was never lack of arm strength, but lack of technique and too much conservatism relative to the defender. As long as his footwork is sound, Dak throws a nice deep ball now.
Over the top deep balls also avoid a weak spot - throwing to receivers moving into the range of new defenders.
My point all along...I don't disagree with your point, I was pointing to a deep arm strength and control of the ball 20+ yards within the protected 2.5 second delivery period. The length can increase or decrease and not create any distance related problems...as his control is in his natural management range for his throws. Without any control or delivery complications for his normal delivery. He is good from the 20 yard range in consistently.

Lamb, Cooks, and Gallup will be pushing deeper routes depending upon reads by Prescott before the snap.

(that view has been posted now four times, and not differently as presented although)
 

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The problem with Dak's deep ball was never lack of arm strength, but lack of technique and too much conservatism relative to the defender. As long as his footwork is sound, Dak throws a nice deep ball now.
Over the top deep balls also avoid a weak spot - throwing to receivers moving into the range of new defenders.
It's interesting how we all have our theories (not saying which is right/wrong)....I see that Dak isnt suited to holding on waiting for the routes (especially the option routes) to develop....especially if it doesnt result in separation (or teams sit in coverage) and Dak is taking risks throwing into traffic. I just see him better suited to the most instant WC process, even use of 12 Personnel, with RB's Pollard (and for me Deuse) as the YAC check downs.
 
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