Cowboys defensive rankings during Super Bowl years

[Vtwin]

true. that's when we went into playoffs. and then against the Rams defense disappeared for some reason and gave up 250 yards rushing. make that 120 and we are in NFCCG

If Dak could have lead the offense to a bit more than 7 points through the first 40 minutes, NFCCG here we come.

 

[Flamma]

The Dak debate must go away. It’s childish crap. I’ve called out both sides and i will continue until it gets under control, this sites places them all in their own playground or I’m booted off. I’ve had it.

We have much greater concerns and contributing factors preventing this franchise from more success than our QB.

It's the one thing in all of this people forget. No matter what you think of Romo, he was a pretty good QB. No way Dallas should only have two playoff wins while he was here. There's more to building a winning team and the Cowboys are a step above Detroit. Another team that wasted a good quarterback's career.

 

[Mountaineerfan]

I'm not sure how this thread proves anything logical about Dak in any possible way? "Hey 30 years ago we had a great defense so don't hate Dak!"

 

[starfan1]

Very informative........... Can you back that up with facts?

Lol there’s 11 pages of them

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

If Dak could have lead the offense to a bit more than 7 points through the first 40 minutes, NFCCG here we come.

it was 23-15 at the end of 3rd quarter......but perhaps you want to change that number to 41 minutes and 34 seconds, it will suit your argument better....

first drive by rams we gave up 38 yards rushing.....which gave you the feeling of things to come....we went up 7-3 in fact after that......
second drive we gave up 48 yards rushing.....and they ended in a field goal...score 7-6

but you got the sense, having given up 86 yards in first two drives, that they will find their way soon.....they held the ball for 13 minutes in the first two drives, with 13:48 to go in the 2nd quarter...meaning of the total 16 minutes into the game, they had a 6 minute drive and a 7 minute drive.....we had one drive to that point in the game and scored a TD...but I am sure you will blame Dak for the pathetic defensive performance.....

the next drive we got stalled...but I know your expectations. score every drive no matter what.....God forbid the offense doesn't score on a drive.....no other successful NFL team ever punts....they score every drive. right?

3rd drive for Rams....31 rushing yards....and a score and another 4 minutes off the clock...

that's now 17 minutes of possession with 6 minutes to go......but hey blame the offense...they only had 2 drives to that point and scored on one drive....again, I guess we expect 100% scoring on each drive.

next drive, our 3rd of the half...which is low, we ran the clock to 44 seconds...guess what....Zeurline scores a 63 yard field goal...

so isn't the defensive responsiblity not to give up over a 100 yards rushing in a half and get off the field? give the ball back to the offense? they controlled the clock but effectively rushing the ball and eating the clock and shortening the game.... but hey, I am sure you are going to say we should have kept the ball long too, but how? by rushing like they did? where is the Zeke blame? where is the bad game plan blame? where is the defensive blame?

regardless, end of third quarter (why 40 minutes!!!???)...we are 23-15 and within one score, despite the defense giving up 150+ yards of rushing....zero ability to stop the run. that's when on the 4th down on the next drive, zeke couldn't get 1 yard and we turned the ball over to them. the great OL, a top 4 pick and we couldn't get one yard...I am sure it's Dak's fault some how..again we give up 40 yards rushing and another TD...for GAWD's sake can this defense hold just one time....

but hey continue to look at final stats any which way you want...the game is totally lost on you...

 

[Techsass]

Wasn't 'noodle arm' reserved for Romo?

I'm pretty sure that was Kellen Moore. I think it was our hero @Risen Star that slapped that moniker on him. I don't think I ever saw another post mention Kellen without throwing in the Noodle Arm.

 

[Vtwin]

Lol

it was 23-15 at the end of 3rd quarter......but perhaps you want to change that number to 41 minutes and 34 seconds, it will suit your argument better....

first drive by rams we gave up 38 yards rushing.....which gave you the feeling of things to come....we went up 7-3 in fact after that......
second drive we gave up 48 yards rushing.....and they ended in a field goal...score 7-6

but you got the sense, having given up 86 yards in first two drives, that they will find their way soon.....they held the ball for 13 minutes in the first two drives, with 13:48 to go in the 2nd quarter...meaning of the total 16 minutes into the game, they had a 6 minute drive and a 7 minute drive.....we had one drive to that point in the game and scored a TD...but I am sure you will blame Dak for the pathetic defensive performance.....

the next drive we got stalled...but I know your expectations. score every drive no matter what.....God forbid the offense doesn't score on a drive.....no other successful NFL team ever punts....they score every drive. right?

3rd drive for Rams....31 rushing yards....and a score and another 4 minutes off the clock...

that's now 17 minutes of possession with 6 minutes to go......but hey blame the offense...they only had 2 drives to that point and scored on one drive....again, I guess we expect 100% scoring on each drive.

next drive, our 3rd of the half...which is low, we ran the clock to 44 seconds...guess what....Zeurline scores a 63 yard field goal...

so isn't the defensive responsiblity not to give up over a 100 yards rushing in a half and get off the field? give the ball back to the offense? they controlled the clock but effectively rushing the ball and eating the clock and shortening the game.... but hey, I am sure you are going to say we should have kept the ball long too, but how? by rushing like they did? where is the Zeke blame? where is the bad game plan blame? where is the defensive blame?

regardless, end of third quarter (why 40 minutes!!!???)...we are 23-15 and within one score, despite the defense giving up 150+ yards of rushing....zero ability to stop the run. that's when on the 4th down on the next drive, zeke couldn't get 1 yard and we turned the ball over to them. the great OL, a top 4 pick and we couldn't get one yard...I am sure it's Dak's fault some how..again we give up 40 yards rushing and another TD...for GAWD's sake can this defense hold just one time....

but hey continue to look at final stats any which way you want...the game is totally lost on you...

Lol
The defense sucked.

The point you want to dismiss is the offense also sucked. They scored 7 points until 5ish minutes left in the third, which is why I picked that time. If Dak could of "lead" the offense to even one moreTD in over three and a half quarters it would have given the D a break, taken time off the clock and potentially made a difference. Punt, punt, punt... The 20 something second three and out to start the second half was particularly noticeable. I really don't understand how you can dismiss the terrible offense through 3 and a half quarters and focus soley on the terrible defense, which did manage to at least hold the Rams to field goals in goal to go situations a couple times, giving the offense chance.

Here's another little fact for your to absurdium de reductio, away. The Rams had exactly one more possession than the cowboys and that was a 30ish second, scoreless drive to end the first half.

Dak had every chance to "lead" the team on those drives. The defense had nothing to do with the offense failing to capitalize on those opportunities.

The lengths you guys will go is embarrassing.

TLDR: Both the offense and defense sucked.

 

[plasticman]

Takeaways are huge for any good defense. They can be game changers. They were a huge reason the '92 Cowboys won the Championship game, and a big reason the Cowboys slaughtered the Bills in the SB.

Turnovers were also the reason the Cowboys won Super Bowls 28 and 30 in '93 and '95.

In Super Bowl 28, the Bills are leading 10-6 with 1:22 left before the half. Aikman throws an INT on the Bill's 37 which is returned 41 yards. from there, the Bills make it 13-6 and they get the ball to open the 2nd half. Things aren't looking good for the Cowboys.

But then the Bills Thurman Thomas fumbles the ball and Mark Washington returns it for a TD. That opens the floodgates.

Of course, in Super Bowl 30, the game is sealed by Larry Brown's 2nd INT.

In Super Bowl 12, the Cowboys intercept Craig Morton 4 times in the 1st half and the game is pretty much over.

In Super Bowl 6 the scoring begins when Chuck Howley (of course) recovers a Larry Czonka fumble. Czonka did not have a single fumble the entire regular season.

Just as the 4th quarter begins, it is 17-3 Cowboys but the Dolphins begin making a serious drive. If they score a TD, it's a game. Now everyone is nervous because this is supposed to be the game where the Cowboys win "the Big One" for the first time in their history after so many close losses.

They are almost at the middle of the field when Chuck Howley (OF COURSE!) intercepts the ball and returns it to the Dolphin 9. Two plays later Staubach throws the TD to seal the game.

This was not the Super Bowl where Chuck Howley was made the MVP....that was the previous Super Bowl.

WHY IS CHUCK HOWLEY NOT IN THE HALL OF FAME???!!!

Different subject but, my gosh, how can this be?

 

[Rockport]

The offense can do their part too. Its on them to sustain drives to give the defense rest. Too many times over the past few seasons the offense has failed to do that, which results in what? A tired defense that gives up a ton of yards and points.

There are deficiencies on both sides of the ball and it isn't fair to lay the blame squarely on one side or the other.

That’s not true. The offense had issues in the first 4 games last year with turnovers. That doesn’t equate to “the past few seasons”. Disingenuous and flat out false.

 

[Rockport]

My posts are in reference to the OP premise that Dak never had good D’s he did, I don’t think I ever said really good and this isn’t bash Dak take. You can’t say stats mean nothing based on what you feel. A team that gave up 20 points a game isn’t bad. I also believe top tier QB’s would of done better than 1 playoff win in 5 seasons with the same teams Dak had. We can agree to disagree but it seems stats and rankings only are relevant when they prop Dak up otherwise they mean nothing. This year will tell the tale on Dak and MM.

Dak never had good defenses. 2016 was just average at best. 20th in turnovers, 19th in yards allowed. What a good defense.

 

[Rockport]

Not at all. I'm just providing stats to contradict the OP's claim that Dak has never had a decent defense. 2016 was the best he had. They still weren't great, but they were much better than the 2020 version.

There have been massive failures on both sides of the ball. But the slobbers refuse to look at it that way and put the blame solely on the defense.

Well I just proved that wrong.

 

[Rockport]

Screw the OP. His crap and the rest of the Homers is foolish. Let them cheer. Who cares.

We had good enough defenses those years to get into the playoffs . Nothing as bad as 2020.

But QB or offense isn’t our weakest link.

Screw you too and your crap.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Dak never had good defenses. 2016 was just average at best. 20th in turnovers, 19th in yards allowed. What a good defense.

2016 rankings- Team defense (5th), Rushing (1st), Passing (26), PPG allowed (5th).
2017 rankings- Team defense (13th), Ruhing (8th), Passing (11th), PPG Allowed (13th)
2018 rankings- Team defense (6th), Rushing (5th), Passing (13th), PPG Allowed (6th)
2019 rankings- Team defense (11th), Rushing (11th), Passing (10th), PPG Allowed (11th)

"DaK NeVeR HaD GoOd DeFeNsEs"

 

[Rockport]

I'm not sure how this thread proves anything logical about Dak in any possible way? "Hey 30 years ago we had a great defense so don't hate Dak!"

Open your mind and get off the moonshine. It proves you have to have a better than average defense to win a Super Bowl.

 

[Rockport]

2016 rankings- Team defense (5th), Rushing (1st), Passing (26), PPG allowed (5th).
2017 rankings- Team defense (13th), Ruhing (8th), Passing (11th), PPG Allowed (13th)
2018 rankings- Team defense (6th), Rushing (5th), Passing (13th), PPG Allowed (6th)
2019 rankings- Team defense (11th), Rushing (11th), Passing (10th), PPG Allowed (11th)

"DaK NeVeR HaD GoOd DeFeNsEs"

None of those defenses were worth a damn. You confidently left out turnovers and special teams play. Anyone who thinks any of those defenses were good doesn’t know football.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

None of those defenses were worth a damn. You confidently left out turnovers and special teams play. Anyone who thinks any of those defenses were good doesn’t know football.

Your emotions do not replace facts. Get out of your feels, Rockport.

 

[Rockport]

Your emotions do not replace facts. Get out of your feels, Rockport.

Right they don’t that’s why I posted facts. You obviously were still in the crib in 2016 and didn’t watch the games.

 

[Brax]

Dak never had good defenses. 2016 was just average at best. 20th in turnovers, 19th in yards allowed. What a good defense.

5th in points given up 19 pg is just average, But you may be right maybe Dak needs a D that gives up less than 12 to be successful although against good teams that might not be good enough. Twist it spin it anyway you like Dak has had good enough defensive play except last year but you keep blowing smoke about poor defense. Just be honest and admit Dak is no more than a good QB who has failed to get the job done to date.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

5th in points given up 19 pg is just average, But you may be right maybe Dak needs a D that gives up less than 12 to be successful although against good teams that might not be good enough. Twist it spin it anyway you like Dak has had good enough defensive play except last year but you keep blowing smoke about poor defense. Just be honest and admit Dak is no more than a good QB who has failed to get the job done to date.

If Dak is as great as they want us to believe why does he seem to need the 2000 Ravens defense to win anything? lol

 

[Cowpolk]

If Dak is as great as they want us to believe why does he seem to need the 2000 Ravens defense to win anything? lol

Show actual proof that Dak does need that