Cowboys defensive value

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Value means a lot when you consider the Cowboys.

They're a Tampa 2 defense, but they're looking to play more man coverage. They're also in the nickel page more often than not.

What do a few of these things mean as it relates to value?

CB3 gets more snaps than LB3.

This means that CB3 on the depth chart is more valuable and important than LB3, which is the SAM.

If Claiborne is healthy and Carr and Scandrick get their deals worked out, I think you could see Jones play free safety, and Wilcox supplant Church at SS (Maybe not immediately). I think that is what they're looking for in terms of playing the best 5.

What also still needs to be understood is that when we go to the nickel the nose tackle comes off the field. Even being a "two down player", if you're playing predominantly the pass say in the 4th quarter or 2nd quarter, or for whatever reason you have 3 wide receivers which pushes you to the nickel, you probably have this guy coming off the field.

Here you probably see Crawford slide over, and a defensive end comes in whether it be Lawrence or Hardy or Mincey. I could envision us having 3 defensive ends on the line in a lot of situations, and potentially a 4th playing linebacker in passing situations.

This means that DE3 is more valuable than DT2
 

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I'm excited to see Gregory, Hardy, Lawrence, Mincey, and T. Crawford all rushing the passer on 3rd down, with one of them (probably Gregory) rushing from a LB position.
 

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Wilcox is not sending anyone to the bench.
 

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so we want to change people to make learning the defense new to some players? im not a fan of our safeties but play them this year to keep it going from last year.
 

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Value means a lot when you consider the Cowboys.

They're a Tampa 2 defense, but they're looking to play more man coverage. They're also in the nickel page more often than not.

What do a few of these things mean as it relates to value?

CB3 gets more snaps than LB3.

This means that CB3 on the depth chart is more valuable and important than LB3, which is the SAM.

If Claiborne is healthy and Carr and Scandrick get their deals worked out, I think you could see Jones play free safety, and Wilcox supplant Church at SS (Maybe not immediately). I think that is what they're looking for in terms of playing the best 5.

What also still needs to be understood is that when we go to the nickel the nose tackle comes off the field. Even being a "two down player", if you're playing predominantly the pass say in the 4th quarter or 2nd quarter, or for whatever reason you have 3 wide receivers which pushes you to the nickel, you probably have this guy coming off the field.

Here you probably see Crawford slide over, and a defensive end comes in whether it be Lawrence or Hardy or Mincey. I could envision us having 3 defensive ends on the line in a lot of situations, and potentially a 4th playing linebacker in passing situations.

This means that DE3 is more valuable than DT2

I think our DL will have a lot of snaps with 3 DE out there all at the same time....The Dallas defense is built for faster DL that can get pressure, this is the first year we will have the people to do the job.
 

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I think our DL will have a lot of snaps with 3 DE out there all at the same time....The Dallas defense is built for faster DL that can get pressure, this is the first year we will have the people to do the job.

I agree. I think if people can stay healthy, this will be the first year we really see the defense as Marinelli envisions it. They want to play a lot like Seattle.
 

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I agree. I think if people can stay healthy, this will be the first year we really see the defense as Marinelli envisions it. They want to play a lot like Seattle.

Hope we get same results= year before when Seahawks won Super Bowl :thumbup:
 

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Hope we get same results= year before when Seahawks won Super Bowl :thumbup:

When the Seahawks were 7th in the league in defense in 2011 (ppg), they were starting two rookies in the secondary and two second year players. ]

I want to think (and maybe I'm leading myself here) that the Cowboys are about to invest a lot of draft resources into that secondary over the next year or so.
 

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When the Seahawks were 7th in the league in defense in 2011 (ppg), they were starting two rookies in the secondary and two second year players. ]

I want to think (and maybe I'm leading myself here) that the Cowboys are about to invest a lot of draft resources into that secondary over the next year or so.

Jones is a start !
 

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I agree. I think if people can stay healthy, this will be the first year we really see the defense as Marinelli envisions it. They want to play a lot like Seattle.

Seattle took a chance 3 years or so ago with a guy to pay DE in the draft I think his name was Irvin, the Seahawks put players who could rush the QB. I think it worked out well for them and hope it does for us.. If you have a big time pass rush your DB's look better.
 
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