Cowboys doing Patrick Crayton wrong?

Jon88;3422363 said:
The only receiver who would be a major blow if hurt would be Austin, and no one is replacing Austin.

so you're saying you wouldn't want crayton as a 3rd wr and punt returner if RW or Dez got hurt? i like ogletree and all but crayton is proven and would definitely get the nod in any case miles, rw or dez got hurt.

nake;3422443 said:
My understanding is the Cowboys aren't mailing anyone paychecks. All they pay is per-diem until the regular season starts, at which time everyone who makes the team is paid their salary in 17 weekly checks.

If Crayton gets cut before the regular season starts, he doesn't get paid any of his 2 million dollar salary. Therein lies the problem.

the problem is that crayton shouldn't have signed such a long contract then and cashed in his signing bonus. because now he is under contract and buried on the depth chart with no other choices. Dallas can do with him what they like and are in no obligation to do what is in his best interests over the team's best interests.
 
The last time I checked our receivers roster:we had one sure thing, Austin; Williams, who can't get off the line and catch the ball; Hurd who hasn't done much and Ogletree a developing player; then we draft Dez Bryant a rookie. A rookie! Poor Crayton is afraid of this situation. Crayton, if he was faster would be our number 2 receiver. Hurd should be the person worried about a roster spot. This will be Roy's last year in Dallas unless he does something. Jerry and Jason know that teams will take Crayton in a heart beat if released. If Crayton wants to continue to cry about his poor situation then send his *** home and he can cry with the family. Regardless if Dallas releases Crayton he is still getting paid. Carolina still had to pay Delhomme some money when he left.
 
HanD;3422504 said:
so you're saying you wouldn't want crayton as a 3rd wr and punt returner if RW or Dez got hurt? i like ogletree and all but crayton is proven and would definitely get the nod in any case miles, rw or dez got hurt.

No, I would prefer to move on. Sam Hurd doesn't get enough playing time IMO and we could sign a rookie free agent who might be another Austin.
 
right, because rookie udfa are easy to develop into 1000 yard WRs.

seriously? if austin got hurt, you are comfortable with RW, dez bryant, ogletree and hurd? you wouldn't want crayton at all? if that's the case i guess we just need to move on and agree to disagree because that's not a WR core i want going into a season when the SB is a possible expectation. now mind you my fears could be calmed after a couple games of production from dez and ogletree but for now, they can't be expected to be regular every down producers for this offense.

i'd feel differently if we were rebuilding or a young team on the rise. but i want more proven players for a team trying to make a run this year...
 
Tell him he's #3/4 depending on the situation and that he can like it or sit out. He's a valuable player who Tony trusts...I'd rather have him than OTree or Hurd on the field.
 
cowboyjoe;3422306 said:
Cowboys doing Patrick Crayton wrong?
June, 1, 2010 Jun 14:39PM ETEmail Print Share By Matt MosleyIRVING, Texas -- In what has to qualify as the most publicized third-receiver controversy of the NFL's modern era, Patrick Crayton continued to be a no-show at the Cowboys' organized team activities Tuesday. The good folks at NFL Live, which is anchored by Trey Wingo, even asked the NFC East blog to comment on the Crayton situation for today's show.

In short, Crayton's worried that he won't be given an honest chance to beat out rookie Dez Bryant or veteran Roy Williams for playing time based on how much money (and attention) the organization has invested in those players. And by the way, Crayton's absolutely right. There's no question that he's a better receiver than Williams, but then, he's not guaranteed $9 million this season. The Cowboys could use Crayton as an extra body in training camp and then decide to dump him and his $2 million salary before the regular season.

So you can see why Crayton's in no hurry to participate in voluntary practices when he'd basically serve as an insurance policy for offensive coordinator Jason Garrett. As he told ESPN 103.3's "Ben and Skin Show" on Friday, Crayton's hoping the Cowboys will simply release him and allow him to sign with a team that has an obvious need at receiver. And that's what other teams around the league are waiting on as well. On Tuesday afternoon, I reached out to Crayton's agent, Fred Lyles, to see if he'd shed some light on the situation.

"This is like interviewing for a job, and the positions already being filled," said Lyles of Crayton's situation. "Dez is going to be on the team no matter how he performs. Roy's going to be on the team no matter how he performs. And it's the same thing with Miles [Austin]."

Lyles said that Crayton doesn't want his family to be in limbo in terms of where they'll be living this September. Honestly, I can see both sides of this issue. The Cowboys know that Crayton's a very reliable receiver who could help them in a pinch, so they don't want to give him up for nothing. Other teams look at the Cowboys' depth at receiver, and they don't feel the need to move a draft pick for him.

Tim MacMahon of ESPNDallas.com thinks that Crayton could hurt the club's chemistry if he remains on the roster while not receiving much playing time. I disagree with that assessment. Crayton fell under the spell of T.O. when he was with the team, but now that's not an issue. If Crayton's on the roster, I think he'll conduct himself in a professional manner. And given Williams' penchant for dropping balls and the inexperience of Bryant, I think the Cowboys would eventually get Crayton back in the rotation.

Now I'm curious to hear what you guys think. Are you tired of the Crayton saga? If I decided to write the definitive Crayton biography this offseason, would you wait in line at Barnes and Noble to buy it?
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/pos...k-crayton-wrong?utm_source=bleacherreport.com


Let this sink it
 
Wood;3423060 said:
Let this sink it

This.

Interesting that people assume that Patrick Crayton hasn't reached out to Jerry and Stephen at one point or another.

I have no problem with what Patrick Crayton is doing. It just kind of sickens me that he will be playing for another team and we will be stuck with Roy Williams and all his Texas Longhorn gear.
 
Maikeru-sama;3423073 said:
This.

Interesting that people assume that Patrick Crayton hasn't reached out to Jerry and Stephen at one point or another.

I have no problem with what Patrick Crayton is doing. It just kind of sickens me that he will be playing for another team and we will be stuck with Roy Williams and all his Texas Longhorn gear.

At this stage the best thing that can happen for Dallas is for Dez to establish himself early and un-handcuff this franchise from Roy Williams nightmare. Archer was commenting on OTAs yesterday and said your still just seeing weird stuff go on between Romo/Williams that you dont see happening with other WRs.
 
1. This is a business where you are constantly being tested and compared and might lose your job to someone else. This is capitalism at its best.

Be the best or be replaced.

2. He will make 2 million dollars. A guy making a 1000 a week would have to work 40 years to make 2 million dollars.

Go get a 9-5er pat and then tell me how you aren't being treated fairly.

Pet cats aside, the guy needs to show up and do his job. If a trade comes down, then go get your 2 million somewhere else.

If they cut you, then that's life sport.

But shut your mouth and do your job. You are under contract.
 
Crayton is getting paid millions of dollars ..... no he is not being done "wrong".
 
I can see Crayton's point. This is the only play he feels he has. I see the Cowboy's point, too: Crayton is their asset, and they have no obilgation to just give him away.

But at some point, he'll have to suck it up, go in, and do his best. Bellyaching about being treated poorly will only make him less attractive to teams who are looking at him.

At this stage, he's a better player than Roy Williams. Neither of them are anything special, but if they really intend on keeping him, Jones and Garrett should let him know that he isn't going to get axed, and that he'll be given a fair shake to be the 3rd WR. If he isn't going to get a real chance, then they might as well let him go now, because you aren't getting anything for him, aside from maybe a late round conditional pick.
 
nake;3422443 said:
My understanding is the Cowboys aren't mailing anyone paychecks. All they pay is per-diem until the regular season starts, at which time everyone who makes the team is paid their salary in 17 weekly checks.

If Crayton gets cut before the regular season starts, he doesn't get paid any of his 2 million dollar salary. Therein lies the problem.

Well all he has to do at that point is go to Chicago, they need wr's bad...
 
Maikeru-sama;3423073 said:
This.

Interesting that people assume that Patrick Crayton hasn't reached out to Jerry and Stephen at one point or another.

I have no problem with what Patrick Crayton is doing. It just kind of sickens me that he will be playing for another team and we will be stuck with Roy Williams and all his Texas Longhorn gear.

i assume that because there have been no reports of it. the only reports are from crayton talking to the media and not showing up for any voluntary workouts. so until i hear crayton or jerry or wade say that they talked to each other...why WOULD one assume it took place?
 
There's no question he's a better WR than Roy Williams? That is an extremely ignorant comment to make by a writer. Or by anyone.
 
zrinkill;3423094 said:
Crayton is getting paid millions of dollars ..... no he is not being done "wrong".

It's quite interesting to see how money is used to judge morality.
 
There is zero reason to feel sorry for anyone in this scenario.

Crayton is getting paid. The Cowboys haven't sent him off to Buffalo or somewhere that would be a huge culture shock to his family.

The Cowboys don't expect him to be happy and realize he isn't.

He will eventually be released but only after TC starts.

When he does move the family at least he'll have the money to do so.
 
Trendnet;3423124 said:
It's quite interesting to see how money is used to judge morality.

Where's the moral question?
He signed a contract to play football here and he is still getting paid to do so.

No one has asked him to stop playing football here.

He got a signing bonus in his previous contract and the team isn't going after it like we are the Raiders or some nonsense.

I am sure every player in the league would love to be a Free Agent each season (after they got paid previously to sign a longer deal) but it isn't morally wrong.
 
jterrell;3423128 said:
Where's the moral question?
He signed a contract to play football here and he is still getting paid to do so.

No one has asked him to stop playing football here.

He got a signing bonus in his previous contract and the team isn't going after it like we are the Raiders or some nonsense.

I am sure every player in the league would love to be a Free Agent each season (after they got paid previously to sign a longer deal) but it isn't morally wrong.


It was mostly in reference to what I quoted.

Being paid more money = treating me wrong is okay.

It was just a general remark to the comment, not so much the situation.
 
Trendnet;3423124 said:
It's quite interesting to see how money is used to judge morality.

It's quite interesting to see how morality is being confused with competition.
 

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