Cowboys draft grades range from B-C

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Stephen Moore and other top local Cowboys beat writers were from B-C. Most of the national experts like Kiper graded B. Which isn’t bad .

The general consensus is we didn’t land an immediate impact player. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with all of these analysis but I would agree our 1st round pick must become more than a rotational player.
Time will tell but I’m always interested in what those closet who follow the Cowboys think.

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The thing is. Every DT is a rotational player. They should only be playing like 60% of the snaps regardless.

All that being said. So yeah a guy like Mazi won’t play every snap especially considering his size.

But it is such a valuable position
 

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The thing is. Every DT is a rotational player. They should only be playing like 60% of the snaps regardless.

All that being said. So yeah a guy like Mazi won’t play every snap especially considering his size.

But it is such a valuable position
I don’t think anyone expects to play every snap. But enough to become a staple starter and potential Pro Bowler type talent . Most of all an impact player.
 

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B-C range sounds right to me. The guys they drafted were not flashy, impact players.

That said— if Mazi anchors at 1T long term, Schoonmaker hits as an all around quality starter at TE in the Witten-mold, Overshown fills a Kearse-like role, and Fehoko develops into a quality piece along the DL, and Deuce hits as a big play, gadget player— this draft easily will turn into an A.

Richards and Scott have potential as well. Not a flashy class, but we landed some guys who can excel at certain roles that can help us win a lot of games

My biggest concern is WR. We are still really thin there and are one injury away from being exactly where we were last year. I hope Tolbert steps up, but that’s hard to see at this point.
 

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Considering the number of plays Smith was in on at MI, this will seem like a partial vacation to him. And players in the Big 10 and SEC play against the best OL talent.

Since the early 90's Cowboys team was all about rotation on both of the lines to keep them fresh, adding players to that as well as RB and TE isn't bad at all.

If they get a B, that's like an A in a lot of other drafts because this one was really thin, even the talking heads were struggling selling a lot of these players. Hell, some have a hard time with highlight reel unless they're using footage from Powder Puff Weekend when the big schools pummel the smaller ones for fun and relaxation.

I have to go A in that first round just because they took a DT. Which might be an indicator of just how thin this draft was. I do like another Big Nasty in that DL.

And adding a fast, playmaking LB that can crash the pocket helps Lawrence and Parsons.

I think one has to consider the style that a team approaches the draft and the Cowboys were sticking and picking while some others had to get aggressive and took greater risks.

Last year, the Eagles won the draft too but it wasn't their draft picks that really showed up, it was the vets they added. And we get to play the Mazi Smith vs Nolan Smith game all season long. And if Nolan Smith is a hit, it is likely many that have been asking for a DT for years will forget that he was the best DT available and the objective was to address the run.
 

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Yes, and that is Mazi. He played a lot of snaps at Michigan. He wasn’t just a here and there player.
Understood and I see Mazi as a solid contributor . It’s a sensible pick of need. Should make us a better team.

This draft isn’t necessarily a sparkling impact type of draft and why the grades are lower. Doesn’t mean it was a bad draft. Our greatest immediate impact might be in the 6th round.

But if we gain two staple starters from 1st two rounds then it’s a good draft. I also think our DE in 4th round has some upside. That could be a sleeper.

As always time will tell but I think it’s easy to see why this draft is receiving these type of grades.
 

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Considering the number of plays Smith was in on at MI, this will seem like a partial vacation to him. And players in the Big 10 and SEC play against the best OL talent.

Since the early 90's Cowboys team was all about rotation on both of the lines to keep them fresh, adding players to that as well as RB and TE isn't bad at all.

If they get a B, that's like an A in a lot of other drafts because this one was really thin, even the talking heads were struggling selling a lot of these players. Hell, some have a hard time with highlight reel unless they're using footage from Powder Puff Weekend when the big schools pummel the smaller ones for fun and relaxation.

I have to go A in that first round just because they took a DT. Which might be an indicator of just how thin this draft was. I do like another Big Nasty in that DL.

And adding a fast, playmaking LB that can crash the pocket helps Lawrence and Parsons.

I think one has to consider the style that a team approaches the draft and the Cowboys were sticking and picking while some others had to get aggressive and took greater risks.

Last year, the Eagles won the draft too but it wasn't their draft picks that really showed up, it was the vets they added. And we get to play the Mazi Smith vs Nolan Smith game all season long. And if Nolan Smith is a hit, it is likely many that have been asking for a DT for years will forget that he was the best DT available and the objective was to address the run.
Yea, I applaud us for finally prioritizing DT in 1st round but many think Mazi was somewhat of a reach at #26. If he becomes a staple starter then it doesn’t matter . Solid pick.

And yea, I’d agree. Not a deep talented draft. Which would explain why we saw so much movement from teams moving up to get a player.
 

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One thing I never understood….all of these guys for the most part were productive players. How do you grass a draft? Based on how many hyped up players you got? Or basing it off mocks? Always weird to me how people do this.
Great question.
I think on the most part they grade drafts by where they were selected . Did these players go where most felt they were slated . Or did teams select them earlier than expected based on needs.

And how many selected are expected to be immediate impact type players. That also factors in.
 

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Draft grades are fun to read, especially form our own fans. Many will give a grade, but will not go into as why they gave the grade.
How many actually followed the players drafted. I know I didn't. Only know of them from mock drafts or info and film clips posted after the draft.
And yes, I read and watch them to form my opinion that means nothing.

I knew of Mazi, and Schoonmaker, since they played against OSU. I knew of Overshown from what I seen of the Horns games.
I knew nothing about the rest of the players drafted, nor any of the UDFA's.
 

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I made the mistake by breaking my cardinal rule and watched Mike Fisher this morning. I wish I hadn't. Dude is delusional and crass. He said We need Zeke because he can do things that Deuce cant and will likely never do. Completely squashed the kid. Says hes still good if we need a yard. He hates our UDFA basically. He minimized the youngsters and just refuses to let go of Zeke. That sounds just like Jerry. I wont make that mistake again by watching him. I think our draft deserves a wait and see grade. We need to see how we will use these guys. I never seen a guy so exuberant about defending Jerry as Him. He said if I hear 1 more person say Jerry isnt running the draft I will scream. Dude luvs him spme Jerrah Jones rear end. I cut it short and came here. I couldnt listen any longer. I like the draft we had and am willing t wait and see. The Te thing was weird at 58 but again, lets wait and see.
 

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One thing I never understood….all of these guys for the most part were productive players. How do you grass a draft? Based on how many hyped up players you got? Or basing it off mocks? Always weird to me how people do this.
They, the collective they that have made mock drafting a sport of its own, decide the needs of a team and then grade them on addressing those needs.

Others affix a grade to a player and if he is picked early, regardless of whether that is a need of the team, the team gets downgraded.

It's all nuts since none of these guys have played a down of NFL ball but with so many sports outlets, they have to talk about something.

Hell, back in the day, teams didn't even get grades after the draft and today, none of them care what the talking heads think. I think that 3 year wait to grade has become 2 because of changes and acceleration of making the calls on the young players.

It wasn't that long ago that it took a couple of injuries before they'd let rookie OL on the field. And the bad teams were rated by how many rookies they had to play.

Bottom line is they may be able to rank the players based on how they played against college competition but they cannot rank the specific value a player has to his team.

Mazi Smith's value to this team might be far better than his overall draft grade, only getting him on the field for a full season will tell.

What is very telling is that when the re-drafts are held, they don't talk them up nearly as much as the overabundance of mock drafts. I think the Boy Scouts should dump that nasty popcorn they're selling and sell mock drafts door to door.

New slogan, instead of a chicken in every pot, a mock draft in every home. Egads, the best part of the draft is that the mock drafts are over. The old folks can now go back to bridge and bingo until next season.
 

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I made the mistake by breaking my cardinal rule and watched Mike Fisher this morning. I wish I hadn't. Dude is delusional and crass. He said We need Zeke because he can do things that Deuce cant and will likely never do. Completely squashed the kid. Says hes still good if we need a yard. He hates our UDFA basically. He minimized the youngsters and just refuses to let go of Zeke. That sounds just like Jerry. I wont make that mistake again by watching him. I think our draft deserves a wait and see grade. We need to see how we will use these guys. I never seen a guy so exuberant about defending Jerry as Him. He said if I hear 1 more person say Jerry isnt running the draft I will scream. Dude luvs him spme Jerrah Jones rear end. I cut it short and came here. I couldnt listen any longer. I like the draft we had and am willing t wait and see. The Te thing was weird at 58 but again, lets wait and see.
Fisher is the worst made bed in a sloppy dormitory.
 

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Fisher is the worst made bed in a sloppy dormitory.
well said.. It quickly reminded me why I cant watch him. I think its his Jerry Loyalty is why he's this way. The fans are just a necessary evil in Fish's mind and we are inconsequential. He's scared of change.
 

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I made the mistake by breaking my cardinal rule and watched Mike Fisher this morning. I wish I hadn't. Dude is delusional and crass. He said We need Zeke because he can do things that Deuce cant and will likely never do. Completely squashed the kid. Says hes still good if we need a yard. He hates our UDFA basically. He minimized the youngsters and just refuses to let go of Zeke. That sounds just like Jerry. I wont make that mistake again by watching him. I think our draft deserves a wait and see grade. We need to see how we will use these guys. I never seen a guy so exuberant about defending Jerry as Him. He said if I hear 1 more person say Jerry isnt running the draft I will scream. Dude luvs him spme Jerrah Jones rear end. I cut it short and came here. I couldnt listen any longer. I like the draft we had and am willing t wait and see. The Te thing was weird at 58 but again, lets wait and see.
Yeah besides Mazi, Fisher thinks the rest of the draft picks are special team players and backups. What is his agenda?
 

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I'm not concerned about the grades. This was the first year in a long time that I literally have no clue who any of our draft picks are, so I'm just going to wait and see how it turns out.
 
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