Cowboys draft grades range from B-C

[CowboyoWales]

Maybe you don’t take him. Maybe you take your second priority position of higher talent level at 26 and then trade up if necessary in 2nd round.

But chances are with Kansas and NO still to pick in the first Mazi doesn't get to the second. From the War Room clip McClay clearly advocated Mazi and even if we played percentages it was correct going DT and hoping Avila or Bergeron were available when we next picked.
Unfortunately, both went early 2nd.

 

[Risen Star]

Prisco gave them an A.

 

[Jimbo123]

Prisco gave them an A.

He gave the Eagles and Cowboys the same grade..Smart guy...

 

[Creeper]

There is nothing more useless than "expert" draft grades the day or week after the draft. Seriously, what determines a good pick when no one knows how each player will play at an NFL level. Here is the deal that plays out every draft every year, and it never changes. 75% of the guys drafted in the top 15 will probably make a pro-bowl at some point in their careers. 25% will not. from 16-32 less than half will make a pro bowl. The same decline will occur i the second round and by the 4th round pro-bowl level players are rare. They are almost non-existent in the 6th and 7th rounds. Of course there are some but it is rare.
But no one knows who those players will be until they play.

Anyone remember Javon Kinlaw, the DT who was highly regarded coming out of college? He was selected 14th by the 49ers in 2020. What's he done in his 2 years? The 49ers signed Javon Hargrave to play DT and Kinlaw is his backup. "Experts" lauded the 49ers for the pick. The Cowboys took CeeDee Lamb a few picks later.

The experts who grade these drafts have their own biases, but also fall for name recognition. Some Dude is highly touted and goes in the first 10 picks. What a win for the team that took him. Which says nothing about the other 22 teams who would have taken him if they were drafting in the top 10!

The Cowboys got the 2nd best rated, and maybe the best, DT in the draft. It s a position of need - for a long time. I think they did a great job not going for the flash player. Yes, they needed a OG too. But they only get 1 first round pick and I think they used it wisely. Come back in 3 years and let's talk about this draft. At this point no one has a clue how any of these guys will perform.

 

[SinceDayOne]

Caring about draft grades is a lesson in futility. Most of these people that release draft grades don't have the guts to go back and look at their grades after 3 years.

Release your current draft grades and then follow up with how your grades hold up after three years and I am more apt to pay attention.

The real true grade for a draft class will come in 2 years or so AFTER the draft. At that time teams will know for certain how they did drafting players. Until then a final grade of a class is just hot air talk.

Now once they hit the field then a few individuals may shine or bust quickly. But one final grade for the entire class takes something around two years to get accurate.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Great question.
I think on the most part they grade drafts by where they were selected . Did these players go where most felt they were slated . Or did teams select them earlier than expected based on needs.

And how many selected are expected to be immediate impact type players. That also factors in.

Seems flawed because Eagles got a A for Nakobe Dean and Jordan Davis could barely get on the field. Meanwhile Tyler Smith, Bland, Ferguson and Sam Williams all got reps for us.

 

[Jake0]

Draft grades are mostly based on perceived value from pre-draft big boards. So if someone took players later than their relative pre-draft position they give them a good grade. Pretty much it. Small consideration for plugging holes for need.

 

[CouchCoach]

Seems flawed because Eagles got a A for Nakobe Dean and Jordan Davis could barely get on the field. Meanwhile Tyler Smith, Bland, Ferguson and Sam Williams all got reps for us.

But those grades were immediately after the draft, just like these are.

They assume all will fulfill their destiny in the NFL.

The redraft is always interesting and the Cowboys usually do really well with most of their 1st rounders going much higher.

 

[32BellyOption]

Stephen Moore and other top local Cowboys beat writers were from B-C. Most of the national experts like Kiper graded B. Which isn’t bad .

The general consensus is we didn’t land an immediate impact player. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with all of these analysis but I would agree our 1st round pick must become more than a rotational player.
Time will tell but I’m always interested in what those closet who follow the Cowboys think.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...qtZQ-BCmRpKztbr2nlEC62ujEfrks&mibextid=q5o4bk

Prisco on CBS Sportsline gave it an A.

 

[Diehardblues]

Seems flawed because Eagles got a A for Nakobe Dean and Jordan Davis could barely get on the field. Meanwhile Tyler Smith, Bland, Ferguson and Sam Williams all got reps for us.

Of course it’s flawed . Like with any opinion driven material . But it still can provide us some basis if we are seeking it.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Yea, I applaud us for finally prioritizing DT in 1st round but many think Mazi was somewhat of a reach at #26. If he becomes a staple starter then it doesn’t matter . Solid pick.

And yea, I’d agree. Not a deep talented draft. Which would explain why we saw so much movement from teams moving up to get a player.

Mazi was somewhat of a reach, but he might just be exactly what this team needs to take the next step.
The defense was fantastic last year, but had notable struggles against the run. Throw in Mazi alongside Hankins and the only real weakness of the defense - stopping the run - could very well be among their biggest strengths this year. I could see this being a truly elite defense capable of carrying a less than great QB on a deep playoff run.

 

[Diehardblues]

Draft grades are mostly based on perceived value from pre-draft big boards. So if someone took players later than their relative pre-draft position they give them a good grade. Pretty much it. Small consideration for plugging holes for need.

Right

And why if you reach because of a need drafting someone higher than they’d expect to go you receive a lower grade .

 

[Diehardblues]

Mazi was somewhat of a reach, but he might just be exactly what this team needs to take the next step.
The defense was fantastic last year, but had notable struggles against the run. Throw in Mazi alongside Hankins and the only real weakness of the defense - stopping the run - could very well be among their biggest strengths this year. I could see this being a truly elite defense capable of carrying a less than great QB on a deep playoff run.

No doubt but what if we could have drafted a better TE at 26th and then still had a DT in 2nd especially if we had moved up if we were concerned a DT wouldn’t have been there at 58.

Im not saying we should have done that but it’s why we didn’t receive a higher grade cause our early picks were taken sooner than expected . That doesn’t mean it was bad but leaves some suspect. It’s all speculative. No one knows . But this is what we do in a forum.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

No doubt but what if we could have drafted a better TE at 26th and then still had a DT in 2nd especially if we had moved up if we were concerned a DT wouldn’t have been there at 58.

Im not saying we should have done that but it’s why we didn’t receive a higher grade cause our early picks were taken sooner than expected . That doesn’t mean it was bad but leaves some suspect. It’s all speculative. No one knows . But this is what we do in a forum.

Thing is, this was a pretty weak DT class and the guys left after round one didn't offer what Mazi does as a run stuffer.
And about the TE position, this may just be me, but none of the TEs - not even Meyer - in this draft scream impact player to me.
Not really thrilled about the one Dallas took at 58, to be honest.

 

[stilltheguru]

One thing I never understood….all of these guys for the most part were productive players. How do you grass a draft? Based on how many hyped up players you got? Or basing it off mocks? Always weird to me how people do this.

Its all based in experts consensus. Then they do draft red's in 1-3 years and the redo looks totally different than consensus. But sheep don't care. They never do

 

[gimmesix]

Stephen Moore and other top local Cowboys beat writers were from B-C. Most of the national experts like Kiper graded B. Which isn’t bad .

The general consensus is we didn’t land an immediate impact player. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with all of these analysis but I would agree our 1st round pick must become more than a rotational player.
Time will tell but I’m always interested in what those closet who follow the Cowboys think.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...qtZQ-BCmRpKztbr2nlEC62ujEfrks&mibextid=q5o4bk

I do think it depends on what you consider impact. If Mazi immediately makes our run defense better, even if he doesn't make a bunch of tackles or get pressure on the QB, that's an impact, and it can be a fairly huge one because it allows the pass rushers to focus more on what they are good at it, it keeps the linebackers cleaner to make plays, etc. Now, I don't know to what extent Mazi will accomplish that, but our defense could be better because of his presence in the middle against the run.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Its all based in experts consensus. Then they do draft red's in 1-3 years and the redo looks totally different than consensus. But sheep don't care. They never do

But it’s so crazy to me. We knock professional teams with professional scouts who interviews guys and they are calling these eye testers “experts” but don’t trust scouts on teams lol.

 

[stilltheguru]

But it’s so crazy to me. We knock professional teams with professional scouts who interviews guys and they are calling these eye testers “experts” but don’t trust scouts on teams lol.

Mike mayock didn't teach them enough lol

 

[MikeB80]

If anyone cares Dane Brugler ranked them 24th.

 

[jaythecowboy]

I think Deuce and Richards.

Overshown is likely our other nickel linebacker after LVE