Cowboys going old school?

[xwalker]

great. they had half a team.
by the time the defense is built, it is time to reload on offense having wasted dez's prime and 3-4 years of the best of zeke's prime.

Think about the Macro viewpoint.

They maxed out the cap for years and pushed huge amounts of money into future years (The Wade Phillips era and the beginning of the Garrett era). It failed.

Then they start backing off and became conservative for the past few years. They end up with 13 wins.

 

[waldoputty]

Think about the Macro viewpoint.

They maxed out the cap for years and pushed huge amounts of money into future years (The Wade Phillips era and the beginning of the Garrett era). It failed.

Then they start backing off and became conservative for the past few years. They end up with 13 wins.

Yes, the macro point of view.
The cap is shooting up since then.
We can have the draft and the FAs also, but the bean counter would not shift gears.
Now the 13-3 elite offense has to carry the 3-13 garbage defense with it hoping that we hit on every draft pick like last year.
We are better off sending Zeke and Dak off to a sabbatical in 2017, tank the year and get the draft picks we need.
It would certainly work a lot faster and waste less of Dez and Zeke's prime.

 

[xwalker]

Yes, the macro point of view.
The cap is shooting up since then.
We can have the draft and the FAs also, but the bean counter would not shift gears.
Now the 13-3 elite offense has to carry the 3-13 garbage defense with it hoping that we hit on every draft pick like last year.
We are better off sending Zeke and Dak off to a sabbatical in 2017, tank the year and get the draft picks we need.
It would certainly work a lot faster and waste less of Dez and Zeke's prime.

Your theory is that spending money on defense equates to a better defensive unit.

That plan has failed many times for many teams since the beginning of free agency.

I think the Cowboys want to go with younger players for reasons other than money.

Look at the 1992 Super Bowl roster. The core of that team had less than 5 years of experience.

There was not a great selection of free agents this year at the positions of need for the Cowboys. I still think they would spend money if the right guy became available in free agency. They would have paid big money to keep Greg Hardy if he had met expectations in 2015.

 

[waldoputty]

Your theory is that spending money on defense equates to a better defensive unit.

That plan has failed many times for many teams since the beginning of free agency.

I think the Cowboys want to go with younger players for reasons other than money.

Look at the 1992 Super Bowl roster. The core of that team had less than 5 years of experience.

There was not a great selection of free agents this year at the positions of need for the Cowboys. I still think they would spend money if the right guy became available in free agency. They would have paid big money to keep Greg Hardy if he had met expectations in 2015.

there is no reason why they cannot have both youth and experienced good starters still in their prime.
they could have nailed down 1-2 major needs like a good RT and either S or CB.
they did get a RT who had his issues and probably a backup to Green who was injured 75% of the time last year.
that would not have busted the cap by a long shot.
and would have allowed the team to focus on the draft to nail the daddy, assuming they dont think a daddy was available in FA.
we could have traded up, pick multiple, do whatever we needed to do to get the best chance to draft the daddy.
that could easily have been trading up to get watt, rivers and willis.
between the 3, hopefully at least 1 would have been able to provide decent pressure.

 

[LatinMind]

Prior to free agency every team built their team through the draft. There were a lot more than seven rounds and no no free agency so you either built the team with draft picks or you sucked.

Now teams have become a lot more reliant on free agents to fill holes that 7 draft picks can't/won't fill. Free agency has become a high priced crap shoot with high priced/high risk lower reward players for the most part.

There is no doubt that the Cowboys have been avoiding the upper tier over priced free agents ever since the Brandon Carr signing several years ago. Whether they learned their lesson, just don't have the money or it is some other reason is somewhat irrelevant because the result is the same.

But the Cowboys of late seem to be taking this one step farther than even we thought they might. We resigned Williams and Butler to team friendly deals, and may by looking internally for a replacement through our practice squad.

We really seem Hell bent on not bringing in new free agents. We have been working on turning Showers into a safety. We have let many players walk which I know was the plan, but I really didn't see us refusing to plug any holes with free agency.

Maybe they will wait until after the draft to plug hoes with even cheaper free agents cut after the draft has been completed. Again, I knew this was the plan to let guys walk, but they seem to be taking it much farther than I thought they would in resigning free agents to replace the players lost.

The question I have internally is whether or not this signals a new way of thinking internally. Is this salary cap driven, a lack of talent in free agency, comp pick driven, or just situational due to what is on the market this year.

This is definitely different than any year in recent memory. .

i think you will see them sign a big FA or 2 in 2018. Some of the situation seems to be rght now if they want somebody theyre gonna have to restructure somebody else and push more money down the line. Thats what they dont seem to want to do unless its with guys they had every intention on doing that with like Tyron and Frederick as their deals had very little SB. But as it was reported this yr they were going to go after JPP but NY didnt let him hit FA. I think if theres somebody they want they are going to spend. BUt the good thing is they are being picky on who they want not just throwing money at a big name. I see alot of teams going that. NY just signed Marshall while it might look like a good signing the guy has been a headache for DEN and NYJ, NYG already had headaches with their WRs last yr.

 

[xwalker]

there is no reason why they cannot have both youth and experienced good starters still in their prime.
they could have nailed down 1-2 major needs like a good RT and either S or CB.
they did get a RT who had his issues and probably a backup to Green who was injured 75% of the time last year.
that would not have busted the cap by a long shot.
and would have allowed the team to focus on the draft to nail the daddy, assuming they dont think a daddy was available in FA.
we could have traded up, pick multiple, do whatever we needed to do to get the best chance to draft the daddy.
that could easily have been trading up to get watt, rivers and willis.
between the 3, hopefully at least 1 would have been able to provide decent pressure.

They have 4 options at RT.
Green: Really good in 2 starts at LT.
Cleary: Looked good enough in final game at LT.
New guy: He has started a large number of games.
Collins: Played LT in the SEC and was really good.

CB: They signed a free agent. I thought the rookie Brown was (in some games) the best CB on the team last year.

Safety: Maybe they really like the draft pick from last year as the 3rd guy. Heath often looked better than Church and Wilcox last year. This position does seem a little thin in terms of depth.

 

[waldoputty]

They have 4 options at RT.
Green: Really good in 2 starts at LT.
Cleary: Looked good enough in final game at LT.
New guy: He has started a large number of games.
Collins: Played LT in the SEC and was really good.

CB: They signed a free agent. I thought the rookie Brown was (in some games) the best CB on the team last year.

Safety: Maybe they really like the draft pick from last year as the 3rd guy. Heath often looked better than Church and Wilcox last year. This position does seem a little thin in terms of depth.

While I am an optimist, I am a realist.
Green - injured 3/4 of 2016, out all of 2015, injured history in Florida
Cleary - Looked good at LT for one game but no one has said a thing about how much help he had. I have asked about this multiple times.
New guy - he started many games but his ratings were in the basement. I looked it up and posted it here.
Collins - everyone wants him to stay at G and management has said he is better at G.

CB - they signed a 30-year old CB that Philly fans are laughing at us about.
Furthermore, Oscan did not look good last year.
If they spent a few more M per year, they could have had a better player and it would not have broke the cap.
So we are left with Brown who looked good and 2 questionable options with Oscan and the new guy.
I am not the only one harping on the Philly CB - many says he looked like Crap and he is past his prime.

Safety - if Frazier was so good, why not just as he will start or will be the primary backup?
I have no trouble with letting the DBs go and was so glad to see Free go.
But that assumes you at least nail than replacements that are at least as good.

Instead of skimping on the FA CB and RT, why not nail those 2 needs.
Then allow Mcclay to go after multiple DEs - since it appears they did not like what was available here.
If we get 3-4 of them, may be 1-2 will be decent in their rookie year.
We could have dedicated the entire draft to daddies.
With a haul like Watt, Rivers and Willis, may be one would be good in 2017?

 

[JPostSam]

what business do you know of that has been successful by consistently overpaying for goods or services?