Cowboys interested in S Stevie Brown?

[Risen Star]

 

[MrMom]

Zero depth behind Wilcox and Church, I'd be fine with this.

 

[Alexander]

Interesting vet option. Injured a lot but he has a nose for the football when he plays.

He is from Dallas, so that might be a factor.

 

[Crown Royal]

I like him for camp/depth/competition

 

[Risen Star]

Interesting vet option. Injured a lot but he has a nose for the football when he plays.

He is from Dallas, so that might be a factor.

You've practically bought his jersey already.

Sickening.

 

[Alexander]

You've practically bought his jersey already.

Sickening.

I just returned it though. Not only is he a year after knee surgery, but he also had foot surgery.

 

[Risen Star]

I just returned it though. Not only is he a year after knee surgery, but he also had foot surgery.

So we're idiots for even being interested?

Better.

 

[visionary]

Zero depth behind Wilcox and Church, I'd be fine with this.

We don't need depth behind Wilcox and church
We need them to be the depth

 

[Risen Star]

We don't need depth behind Wilcox and church
We need them to be the depth

Church for sure, IMO. I still have some hope for Wilcox.

 

[Alexander]

So we're idiots for even being interested?

Better.

The Giants gave up a ton of big plays when he was in the line up last year and got better when he sat down. I do not know if he was still not 100% back from the knee, but he was a ballhawk in previous years. If he is cheap, well, his major allure is that he is not Jeff Heath.

 

[AsthmaField]

I know which of those teams I would choose.

He is familiar with the Giants though, so he might go that way. Or one of the other teams could throw enough money at him to get him out of the NFC East.

 

[mickswag]

Zero depth behind Wilcox and Church, I'd be fine with this.

You mean Jeff Heath isn't depth!!!?

 

[KingintheNorth]

I thought I remember us showing some interest in him last off-season as well.

 

[gmoney112]

He was actually pretty good, when he was healthy.

Too lazy to look it up but i feel like he's been injured a lot.

 

[Alexander]

I know which of those teams I would choose.

He is familiar with the Giants though, so he might go that way. Or one of the other teams could throw enough money at him to get him out of the NFC East.

The Giants are really decimated at safety right now, not only talent but sheer numbers. They only have two under contract and neither is anywhere near being even a mediocre starter.

If any of those teams is going to be more motivated to throw money at him, it is the Giants. Plus that is where he is more likely to be able to aspire to play more.

I would be surprised if he ends up in Dallas since we are likely to offer the least out of all of them.

 

[reddyuta]

No thanks,the post Acl tear Brown was terrible.

 

[gimmesix]

I know which of those teams I would choose.

He is familiar with the Giants though, so he might go that way. Or one of the other teams could throw enough money at him to get him out of the NFC East.

Here's what I found:

A source tells Big Blue View that the Giants are basically low-balling the 27-year-old Brown, offering a deal at or close to the veteran minimum and refusing thus far to budge from that.

Perhaps the Giants' thinking is that there is little difference talent-wise between Brown and any of the other safeties still available on the free-agent market. Or, that even with the 2015 draft class being weak at safety they would be just as well-served by adding safety depth in the draft. The Giants have even talked about moving cornerback Bennett Jackson, whose status is clouded by micro-fracture knee surgery, or Chykie Brown, a less-than-stellar cornerback, to safety.

Why all this disrespect for Brown?

Well, the painful truth is that as popular a player as Brown is it is not difficult to make an argument that Brown may have been the worst safety in the league -- at least against the pass -- in 2014.

Of 87 safeties who played at least 25 percent of their team's snaps last season, Brown's passer rating against was a league-worst 152.6. That's 15 points worse than the 86th-place finisher, Brandon Meriweather. Which means Brown's pass defense was bad. Really bad.

Brown averaged 25 yards per reception allowed, again worst in the league among safeties graded by Pro Football Focus. He was 62nd in snaps played, but 24th in passing yards allowed. He surrendered an average of 11.3 yards after each catch. That means guys he was supposed to be covering were wide open way too often, and Brown was in chase mode.

Brown was directly targeted 17 times, giving up 12 completions.

Basically, when teams wanted to target Brown they had their way with him. And the yards per catch shows that those completions were incredibly damaging to the Giants.

Now, of course Brown was in his first season back in action after missing all of 2013 due to a torn ACL. You can argue that while he might have been a step slower in 2014 that he should be back to full strength next season.

In 2012, Brown burst upon the scene for the Giants and intercepted eight passes. He had a 71.3 passer rating against and gave up just an average of just 5.4 yards after catch.

Seems to be worth taking a shot if he'll sign for cheap, but doesn't appear he has been willing to do that. Of course, maybe his price has come down.

 

[DCBoysfan]

No thanks, I would rather draft additional depth.

 

[EST_1986]

You mean Jeff Heath isn't depth!!!?

Jeff Heath is the punchline of a bad joke

 

[Idgit]

I thought I remember us showing some interest in him last off-season as well.

We were. He was a good player before the injury troubles.

Our S play is pretty average overall, but we're not likely to upgrade it much outside rounds one and two of the draft. It's pretty slim pickens this year.

Heath's got a lot of value to this team on Teams, and he's not as bad a S3 as we like to make out. I like the idea of adding a veteran player with ball skills though. Especially if it saves draft picks to address the front 7.