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[iceberg]

Dak wasn't drafted to replace Romo......he was plan E or F........if he becomes a solid backup that is a huge win......just don't replace Romo with a late 4th round pick

yea, a 4th round pick could NEVER replace a free agent.

 

[Nightman]

yea, a 4th round pick could NEVER replace a free agent.

It is like saying Tapper was drafted to replace Demarcus Ware or D Jackson was expected to or even hoped to surpass Demarco Murray's accomplishments...it might happen because it happened once before is not a plan

Late draft picks barely make the team and most don't make an impact.....those are the facts...but the Powerball grows to 600m because people believe in miracles....

 

[Sydla]

yea, a 4th round pick could NEVER replace a free agent.

Oy vey.

 

[Doomsday101]

Here's the problem with your rant.

Yes, first round QBs bomb, often, quite a bit. But there are numerous analyses that show the better QBs in the league come from being drafted in the first round. So people should care a little about where their team is shopping for their next franchise QB. Because the odds are better in finding that QB taking one in the 1st round as opposed to the 4th round.

1st it was not a rant just an opinion. 2nd I agree I'm not opposed to using a 1st on a QB as long as it is not a reach. My view on Dak is this attitude that because he is a 4th rd pick he is somehow an automatic failure when fact is there have been ample QB who are not 1st rd and have gone on to great careers. I have not once claimed he would be great only that I see some very good skills sets with him I would like to see Dak get at least 1 snap before passing judgment but of course are experts around here know what a player will do before he plays based on their fricken vast experience. lol

Give a player a chance before claiming success or failure and again where you are selected does not ensure anything.

 

[Sydla]

1st it was not a rant just an opinion. 2nd I agree I'm not opposed to using a 1st on a QB as long as it is not a reach. My view on Dak is this attitude that because he is a 4th rd pick he is somehow an automatic failure when fact is there have been ample QB who are not 1st rd and have gone on to great careers. I have not once claimed he would be great only that I see some very good skills sets with him I would like to see Dak get at least 1 snap before passing judgment but of course are experts around here know what a player will do before he plays based on their fricken vast experience. lol

Give a player a chance before claiming success or failure and again where you are selected does not ensure anything.

Prescott isn't an automatic failure. But the likelihood of him being the guy to take over for Romo and lead the franchise for the next decade is pretty slim. History tells you that.

 

[Doomsday101]

It is like saying Tapper was drafted to replace Demarcus Ware or D Jackson was expected to or even hoped to surpass Demarco Murray's accomplishments...it might happen because it happened once before is not a plan

Late draft picks barely make the team and most don't make an impact.....those are the facts...but the Powerball grows to 600m because people believe in miracles....

Tapper was brought in to compete for a starting job as a DE how his career goes is anyone guess. I agree the top of the draft is where you hope to find star players and Dallas I think got one in Zeke, Dallas did try to work a deal to get Lynch that unfortantly did not happen so then based on other QB they brought in for workouts they choose to go with Dak. Is he a sure fire successor to Romo? NO he will have to come in and earn it where as most 1st rd QB picks are expected to come in and take over

 

[Doomsday101]

Prescott isn't an automatic failure. But the likelihood of him being the guy to take over for Romo and lead the franchise for the next decade is pretty slim. History tells you that.

Facts tell us that if he can one day replace Romo he would have replaced a guy who should not have even made it in the NFL period but of course Romo has. I understand how things are supposed to go but I also know there are enough examples to know things do not work out like that. RGIII was supposed to be the man yet 4th rd pick Kurt Cousins looks a lot more like an NFL QB than RGIII yet Washington did not have to give up a kings ransom for Cousins as they did for RGIII.

 

[Sydla]

Facts tell us that if he can one day replace Romo he would have replaced a guy who should not have even made it in the NFL period but of course Romo has. I understand how things are supposed to go but I also know there are enough examples to know things do not work out like that. RGIII was supposed to be the man yet 4th rd pick Kurt Cousins looks a lot more like an NFL QB than RGIII yet Washington did not have to give up a kings ransom for Cousins as they did for RGIII.

And that's fine if you want to believe that.

But the reality is as much as you hate it, those saying there is a very low likelihood of Prescott ever becoming the next "Romo" have more evidence on their side than you do. So go get pissy or chastise them for not believing (not saying you are doing this specifically) is just bizarre to me.

That's just the reality. We hope Prescott is the guy because it makes life a hell of a lot easier in a few years when Romo finally hangs them up, but the smart money at this point is that we probably shouldn't be putting all our eggs in the Prescott basket either.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Dak wasn't drafted to replace Romo......he was plan E or F........if he becomes a solid backup that is a huge win......just don't replace Romo with a late 4th round pick

Why not? We replaced Bledsoe and quincy Carter with Romo....

It would of been nice to get one of the top 2 qbs in the first, but not impossible with a guy who has the intangibles but may need to develop.

 

[Doomsday101]

And that's fine if you want to believe that.

But the reality is as much as you hate it, those saying there is a very low likelihood of Prescott ever becoming the next "Romo" have more evidence on their side than you do. So go get pissy or chastise them for not believing (not saying you are doing this specifically) is just bizarre to me.

That's just the reality. We hope Prescott is the guy because it makes life a hell of a lot easier in a few years when Romo finally hangs them up, but the smart money at this point is that we probably shouldn't be putting all our eggs in the Prescott basket either.

what I want to believe is a player has a chance to go out and prove himself be it a 1st rd pick or a 7th. No doubt expectation are very high for a 1st rd and I think some cave under that pressure.

I never claimed once that Dak is some sure fire great QB who will replace Romo what I have counted is the argument that players who are 1st or 2nd are some how sure things. As for putting all our eggs in Prescott basket? There is not anything Dallas can do right now if the opportunity comes and Dallas sees a top QB and can make the pick great, then again Prescott I feel deserves his shot. You can name 1st rd QB who have made it and I can do the same with later rd picks who have made it as well. Drafted is not a perfect science and once the draft is over and guys are in camp it comes down to 1 thing for all of them and that is how do you perform where you got drafted at that point really is meaningless. Hell Showers is undrafted should he come in and prove himself the better QB then great he went out and earned it as it should be and as it was for Romo.

 

[KJJ]

It's looking like we may enter the season with the QBs we prepared with all summer. Apparently the Cowboys don't like what they see in the veterans that are out there and it's pretty late in camp to try and bring one in and get them up to speed with the offense.

 

[John813]

I think for DE and LB, we are set for now.

Going to rock the no name DE's until Lawrence comes back. Think we'll be ok there.
We signed Durant, still have Lee, and a handful of 1-2 year linebackers wanting to make a name for themselves.

Quarterback I think will be decided either by this Saturday or the following weekend. If Dak and Showers do ok, then we'll stay pat. If they look bad out there, we may go after McCown IMO or another vet.

 

[Sydla]

It's looking like we may enter the season with the QBs we prepared with all summer. Apparently the Cowboys don't like what they see in the veterans that are out there and it's pretty late in camp to try and bring one in and get them up to speed with the offense.

At this point, does it really matter? The chance to actually get a backup QB that might win you a couple of games if Romo went down was back in free agency. We didn't do it then and I doubt anyone cast off now is going to be any better than what we have. Unless there is some trade out there for a Glennon type, it is what it is at the QB spot.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

It would have to be a quality player. JAGs and stop gaps help nothing, they're just progress stoppers,,,,, and I would add swing tackle to that list if Chaz struggles in preseason.

 

[KJJ]

At this point, does it really matter? The chance to actually get a backup QB that might win you a couple of games if Romo went down was back in free agency. We didn't do it then and I doubt anyone cast off now is going to be any better than what we have. Unless there is some trade out there for a Glennon type, it is what it is at the QB spot.

At this point it probably doesn't matter we're too far out to sea. I said during the offseason we needed to bring in a veteran just in case and prepare them. With the first preseason game tomorrow we may be better off just going with the QBs we prepared with all summer. You can't have a QB miss your entire offseason program and most of training camp and have success. We found that out with Cassel last season who didn't take a snap in preseason or training camp with us.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

Dak is not the heir apparent.

we don't know that. nobody thought Romo would be what he is

 

[Verdict]

Here's the problem with your rant.

Yes, first round QBs bomb, often, quite a bit. But there are numerous analyses that show the better QBs in the league come from being drafted in the first round. So people should care a little about where their team is shopping for their next franchise QB. Because the odds are better in finding that QB taking one in the 1st round as opposed to the 4th round.

Of course. We should have drafted at QB at #4 overall even though we didn't have one available who carried a grade worthy of that draft slot. If it was that easy folks, every team would have three of them on their team instead of about a third of the teams in the leage having one, and the rest looking for one, or should be looking for one.

 

[Sydla]

Of course. We should have drafted at QB at #4 overall even though we didn't have one available who carried a grade worthy of that draft slot. If it was that easy folks, every team would have three of them on their team instead of about a third of the teams in the leage having one, and the rest looking for one, or should be looking for one.

Never said it was easy. And in fact, that's why I've said then and now that they should have moved up into the Top 2 to get QB when they had the 4th pick. Because they won't be picking that high in the near future unless Romo gets hurt for an entire season again.

Which I guess is possible.

 

[Verdict]

1st it was not a rant just an opinion. 2nd I agree I'm not opposed to using a 1st on a QB as long as it is not a reach. My view on Dak is this attitude that because he is a 4th rd pick he is somehow an automatic failure when fact is there have been ample QB who are not 1st rd and have gone on to great careers. I have not once claimed he would be great only that I see some very good skills sets with him I would like to see Dak get at least 1 snap before passing judgment but of course are experts around here know what a player will do before he plays based on their fricken vast experience. lol

Give a player a chance before claiming success or failure and again where you are selected does not ensure anything.

I wish I could "like" this post twice. Its a very reasonable point of view, but it was directed at someone who probably won't listen to what you are trying to tell him, so it is a waste of effort from that standpoint .... but very good post.

 

[Verdict]

Never said it was easy. And in fact, that's why I've said then and now that they should have moved up into the Top 2 to get QB when they had the 4th pick. Because they won't be picking that high in the near future unless Romo gets hurt for an entire season again.

Which I guess is possible.

There were many different ways of approaching this draft. There is no telling which way will ultimately determined to have been the best course. If Romo goes down after the first series and never plays the rest of his career, and Goff and Wentz both turn out to be the next great thing, then your opinion will have been proven largely right.

But what if Romo plays the next five years and Goff and Wentz never amount to anything? The catch is no one really knows how it will turn out.