Cowboys never trade back, but if they can find a trading partner, makes sense this yr!

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Fans always say why don't you trade back and accumulate more picks, that isn't easy as it seems. First you need a player that a team highly covets, where they are willing to give up extra pick or picks to land him. Lastly, the trade back team has to be comfortable losing value if they lose back. It's the quality vs quantity discussion.

When you look at the Cowboy Offseason and current draft picks, in makes a ton of sense this year:

-They lost their starting LT, Center, RB, #3 WR, NT, DE and NT. They just replaced only the MLB starting position.
-Cowboys traded away their 4th rd selection to acquire Trey Lance.
-Their day 3 selections are late rd comp picks.
-Day 3 depth in this class is reportedly very bad

Moving back to the end of rd 1, probably nets the Cowboys an additional 3rd rd selection. They still can get that 5th yr option on that player picked. Now they could move back further and get either an additional 2nd rounder, but also a 3rd and re-coup that 4th they traded away.

Which prospects could a team be willing to trade up for?

-Always look at the high priority money positions: QB, LT, Pass Rusher, Corner, Receiver.
 

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I would not mind a slight trade back either. Later to the 1st round, pick up a 3rd round and maybe a 4th.
I have not looked at the trade value chart for this yet. But some teams get desperate and over trade.

I would not even mind a trade down into the top 5 of the 2nd round. And get even few more picks. Since the still have like 27 opens roster spots for TC.
They have 7 draft picks so would they really fill those spots with all UDFA's and a few vet street FA's.
They need extra picks in the 1st 4 rounds.
 

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Have to trade back and pick up another 3rd in this draft if not a Top10-15 guy on a position of need drops. Too many holes to fill
 

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Hey, maybe they will.
It's not unprecedented.

Traded back in 2013: Gott Travis Frederick (31) and Terrance Williams (74) for the 18th pick
Trade back in 2021: Got Micah Parsons (12) and Chaucey Gholston (84) for the 10th pick
 

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If they can get 2 extra picks, have 5 in the 1st 4 rounds. Would be great if a team is desperate enough to get 6 picks in the 1st 4 rounds.

Then draft in no particular order. Just go BPA at the position of need. Yes BPA is the best to go regardless of position. But with all the needs a BPA will be there.
DT, LB, OL, RB, then the other 2 will be BPA for sure.
 

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I would not mind a slight trade back either. Later to the 1st round, pick up a 3rd round and maybe a 4th.
I have not looked at the trade value chart for this yet. But some teams get desperate and over trade.

I would not even mind a trade down into the top 5 of the 2nd round. And get even few more picks. Since the still have like 27 opens roster spots for TC.
They have 7 draft picks so would they really fill those spots with all UDFA's and a few vet street FA's.
They need extra picks in the 1st 4 rounds.
They created this mess and now have put all the pressure on their scouts to produce. With limited picks and picking late each rd, cannot expect a highly impactful draft class. Get another pick or two, their odds increase. They can ill afford to have another sub-par draft class with they want to continue to compete for the division or a playoff spot.
 

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Hey, maybe they will.
It's not unprecedented.

Traded back in 2013: Gott Travis Frederick (31) and Terrance Williams (74) for the 18th pick
Trade back in 2021: Got Micah Parsons (12) and Chaucey Gholston (84) for the 10th pick
No it's not, but they haven't done it too much.
 

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Moving back to the end of rd 1, probably nets the Cowboys an additional 3rd rd selection. They still can get that 5th yr option on that player picked. Now they could move back further and get either an additional 2nd rounder, but also a 3rd and re-coup that 4th they traded away.
This is interesting ....so you are saying we move back to let say 28/29 and pick an extra 3rd AND trade back again, out the `1st but top of the 2nd round and pick up another 2nd and 4th? We have soooo many open starting positions this makes sense.
 

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If a stud falls Im picking him…

If we’re talking about guys like JPJ, Morgan, etc…100% would trade back.
 

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This is interesting ....so you are saying we move back to let say 28/29 and pick an extra 3rd AND trade back again, out the `1st but top of the 2nd round and pick up another 2nd and 4th? We have soooo many open starting positions this makes sense.
No, not saying 2 tradebacks which is unrealistic:

1) either trade back within the 1st rd and obtain an additional 3rd or 4th rd pick
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2) trade out of the 1st round entirely and obtain 2 additional picks most likely a 3rd and a 4th.
 

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If a stud falls Im picking him…

If we’re talking about guys like JPJ, Morgan, etc…100% would trade back.
We just don't know who will be available until the draft actually happens. Question is who are they willing to pass up to obtain an additional selection? We also have no idea who they are targeting, under MM his 30 visitors don't always show us a road map. Tyler Smith for example never was a 30 day visitor nor a Dallas Day guy. We can say the same about Lamb. Bergeron/LaPorta were suppose to be in the mix last yr and neither came for a visit.
 

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We just don't know who will be available until the draft actually happens. Question is who are they willing to pass up to obtain an additional selection? We also have no idea who they are targeting, under MM his 30 visitors don't always show us a road map. Tyler Smith for example never was a 30 day visitor nor a Dallas Day guy. We can say the same about Lamb. Bergeron/LaPorta were suppose to be in the mix last yr and neither came for a visit.
I’m not moving if a consensus top 18ish talent falls…

If our BPA is an OLmen and there are a handful of similarly graded players available I’m all for it.
 

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We basically have to. They bungled free agency so bad that we need that extra fourth rounder. The drop off from our third to our 5th comp rounder is so severe that if we don't absolutely nail the first three picks, we'll fail. Chances of the later round guys being any good are slim
 

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Fans always say why don't you trade back and accumulate more picks, that isn't easy as it seems. First you need a player that a team highly covets, where they are willing to give up extra pick or picks to land him. Lastly, the trade back team has to be comfortable losing value if they lose back. It's the quality vs quantity discussion.

When you look at the Cowboy Offseason and current draft picks, in makes a ton of sense this year:

-They lost their starting LT, Center, RB, #3 WR, NT, DE and NT. They just replaced only the MLB starting position.
-Cowboys traded away their 4th rd selection to acquire Trey Lance.
-Their day 3 selections are late rd comp picks.
-Day 3 depth in this class is reportedly very bad

Moving back to the end of rd 1, probably nets the Cowboys an additional 3rd rd selection. They still can get that 5th yr option on that player picked. Now they could move back further and get either an additional 2nd rounder, but also a 3rd and re-coup that 4th they traded away.

Which prospects could a team be willing to trade up for?

-Always look at the high priority money positions: QB, LT, Pass Rusher, Corner, Receiver.
It depends on who is on the board at 24. From the Cowboys point of view if 3 players they like are still on the board when their card is up, then they will field calls for a trade down. It’s easier said than done. I think the Cowboys wanted to trade back when they drafted Tyler but supposedly Tampa and Tennessee wanted him so the Cowboys had to take him at their spot. Mazi was in a similar situation because KC liked him.
 

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It depends on who is on the board at 24. From the Cowboys point of view if 3 players they like are still on the board when their card is up, then they will field calls for a trade down. It’s easier said than done. I think the Cowboys wanted to trade back when they drafted Tyler but supposedly Tampa and Tennessee wanted him so the Cowboys had to take him at their spot. Mazi was in a similar situation because KC liked him.
Yes, if they are zeroing in on 1 target, not a good idea, but if they are comfortable with multiple prospects, you make the deal. Certainly will depend on who is available, especially if there is a 1st rd grade still on their board.
 

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I’m not moving if a consensus top 18ish talent falls…

If our BPA is an OLmen and there are a handful of similarly graded players available I’m all for it.
The question is not the consensus, but rather their own draft board. If they have similar grades, make sense, but if there is a blinking light, you hand in the card.
 

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The question is not the consensus, but rather their own draft board. If they have similar grades, make sense, but if there is a blinking light, you hand in the card.
We have so many needs they should have pretty much every position on their 1st round board so it shouldn’t be much different than consensus rankings…but it is the Cowboys we’re talking about so they’ll probably have Guyton ranked higher than MHJ.
 

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they do trade back ,they traded back during the Micah draft and before that Frederick draft.
 
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