Cowboys No Longer Most Winningest Team

[Bobhaze]

Oh common. First of all, they expanded the playoffs. In the Landry era, only 4 teams made the playoffs. There was no "wild card round". If you won a single playoff game, you were in the NFC title game. By that measure, Jerry would have zero playoff wins.

Second of all, 89-93 was all Jimmy Johnson. So, you can't lump that in with the rest of the Jerry era.

Landry also made the playoffs 20 consecutive seasons.

I agree with you AC. Just showing the numbers. Landry’s teams definitely dominated an entire decade in the 70s in the NFC and had 20 straight winning seasons (not 20 straight playoff seasons)

Heres another way of looking at the the Jones era:

• Jimmy Johnson Years: 1989-93. Had 7 playoff wins and two SB wins in 5 seasons.
• Barry Switzer (with mostly the team Jimmy built) 1994-97. Had 5 playoff wins and 1 SB in 4 seasons.
• Since then…under 6 different HCs, we have 4 playoff wins in 29 seasons.

 

[Bobhaze]

Yeah, and if you take away all the wins they've had when Jerry was the owner, he'd have 0 wins!

Jerry hired Jimmy. Jerry paid him. Jerry financed all those moves. Without Jerry there is no Jimmy. Without Jerry, the Cowboys may have folded. You hate him for "destroying what you love" while avoiding the fact that he kept what you loved alive.

4 playoff wins in 29 years. The only time Jerry gave us great football in the playoffs was three decades ago. I don’t “hate” Jerry but I sure hate the results he is fully responsible for.

 

[gtb1943]

Yeah, and if you take away all the wins they've had when Jerry was the owner, he'd have 0 wins!

Jerry hired Jimmy. Jerry paid him. Jerry financed all those moves. Without Jerry there is no Jimmy. Without Jerry, the Cowboys may have folded. You hate him for "destroying what you love" while avoiding the fact that he kept what you loved alive.

anyone that thinks Jethro does not deserve all the hate he gets now is a total idiot

 

[zrinkill]

Jerry Jones legacy

 

[zrinkill]

I don’t “hate” Jerry

I do ....... I hope he is in pain for the rest of his existence

 

[atlantacowboy]

I agree with you AC. Just showing the numbers. Landry’s teams definitely dominated an entire decade in the 70s in the NFC and had 20 straight winning seasons (not 20 straight playoff seasons)

Heres another way of looking at the the Jones era:

• Jimmy Johnson Years: 1989-93. Had 7 playoff wins and two SB wins in 5 seasons.
• Barry Switzer (with mostly the team Jimmy built) 1994-97. Had 5 playoff wins and 1 SB in 4 seasons.
• Since then…under 6 different HCs, we have 4 playoff wins in 29 seasons.

It's really the last 29 years that define the "Jerry" era.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Yeah, and if you take away all the wins they've had when Jerry was the owner, he'd have 0 wins!

Jerry hired Jimmy. Jerry paid him. Jerry financed all those moves. Without Jerry there is no Jimmy. Without Jerry, the Cowboys may have folded. You hate him for "destroying what you love" while avoiding the fact that he kept what you loved alive.

LMAO Is this a joke response? NFL teams don't fold. Bum Bright was just an idiot who didn't care about the team b/c that's not where he made his money. He basically bought the cowboys to improve his standing in Texas social circles. What Jerry could barely afford was just a shiny toy for Bum Bright. Like adding a fancy car to the collection. Jerry likes to tell everyone how much the team was losing and what dire straights the franchise was in to pump himself up and act like he came to the rescue. Its horse-manure.

Jerry hired Jimmy and he gets all the credit for doing that. But that is not building a football team. If it was as simple as hiring a coach and writing checks, every team owner in the league would have Lombardi trophies. Jimmy Johnson was a genius (literally) and what he did got him a gold jacket.

 

[plasticman]

What is the point of this nonsense? The only season that counts now, for the Cowboys, is the 2025 season. History recorded by etchings on cave walls have no bearing on today’s Dallas Cowboys, even if the team’s owner is so old he made those drawings on the cave walls.

“The Cowboys can regain the lead”? The team stinks. You’re trying to put lipstick on a pig and pass it off as Miss America. Here’s a challenge. Just win more games than the New York Giants next season. “Three other teams”…you can’t be serious.

After Super Bowl 6, a reporter asked Duane Thomas what it felt like to win the "ultimate" game.

Thomas responded by asking him why they were having another Super Bowl next year if they just played the "ultimate" game.

A Super Bowl is history the very second it is over.

It is all about history. Otherwise, why would they keep stats, write books, and give Super Bowls Roman numerals?

 

[plasticman]

Yeah, and if you take away all the wins they've had when Jerry was the owner, he'd have 0 wins!

Jerry hired Jimmy. Jerry paid him. Jerry financed all those moves. Without Jerry there is no Jimmy. Without Jerry, the Cowboys may have folded. You hate him for "destroying what you love" while avoiding the fact that he kept what you loved alive.

Jimmy was highly sought after by at least four teams.

Without Jimmy, there would be no three Super Bowls and nothing for Jerry to ever claim as success.

The only reason Jimmy chose the Cowboys was Jerry's contractual agreement that Jimmy make all football related decisions.

 

[Whyjerry]

The Schramm-Landry years: 1960-1988. 29 seasons.

• 18 playoff seasons in 29 years.
• 20 playoff wins
• 14 playoff wins in the 70s.
• 5 NFC championships
• 2 SB wins
• 10 NFC championship appearances (7 in the 70s, 3 in the 80s)
• 20 playoff wins in 29 years.

The Jerry Jones era: 1989-present. 36 seasons.

• 18 playoff seasons in 29 years.
• 16 playoff wins.
• 12 playoff wins in the 90s.
• 3 NFC championships.
• 3 SB wins.
• 4 NFC championship game appearances (all 4 in the 90s; zero since)
• 16 playoff wins in 36 years. (Only 5 playoff wins in the last 29 years)

5 playoff wins in 29 years with an expanded playoff system is the only thing that really matters. I would also add the trajectory for those wins is pointed down.

Dallas is like a rusted out luxury car with fresh paint. The reality is that this franchise is a bottom dweller in the NFL. Right there with Miami, Raiders, and Cleveland. Detroit and Buffalo graduated.

 

[Jimbo123]

The Schramm-Landry years: 1960-1988. 29 seasons.

• 18 playoff seasons in 29 years.
• 20 playoff wins
• 14 playoff wins in the 70s.
• 5 NFC championships
• 2 SB wins
• 10 NFC championship appearances (7 in the 70s, 3 in the 80s)
• 20 playoff wins in 29 years.

The Jerry Jones era: 1989-present. 36 seasons.

• 18 playoff seasons in 29 years.
• 16 playoff wins.
• 12 playoff wins in the 90s.
• 3 NFC championships.
• 3 SB wins.
• 4 NFC championship game appearances (all 4 in the 90s; zero since)
• 16 playoff wins in 36 years. (Only 5 playoff wins in the last 29 years)

Now do the Jerry Jones era after the Salary Cap started. Most of the players on the 1996 team had pre-salary cap contracts. As long as there is a salary cap this admin will never succeed.

 

[JonesBoys]

The Schramm-Landry years: 1960-1988. 29 seasons.

• 18 playoff seasons in 29 years.
• 20 playoff wins
• 14 playoff wins in the 70s.
• 5 NFC championships
• 2 SB wins
• 10 NFC championship appearances (7 in the 70s, 3 in the 80s)
• 20 playoff wins in 29 years.

The Jerry Jones era: 1989-present. 36 seasons.

• 18 playoff seasons in 29 years.
• 16 playoff wins.
• 12 playoff wins in the 90s.
• 3 NFC championships.
• 3 SB wins.
• 4 NFC championship game appearances (all 4 in the 90s; zero since)
• 16 playoff wins in 36 years. (Only 5 playoff wins in the last 29 years)

These stats here are what’s important. Look at the joke of the last 29 years. The fact fans still go to Jerry’s stadium is sad. Fans say there is nothing we can do do about Jerry, that’s not true. Stop going to the games and stop watching. It’s the only way this clown will make a move.

 

[acr731]

The last of the Cowboys historic bragging rights are no more.

For years the Cowboys had the NFL's highest winning percentage.

However, the last game dropped the Cowboys behind the Ravens. The Cowboys present winning percentage of 57.36% is now 2nd to the Raven's 57.39%.

This happened briefly after the 2010 season when the Packers took the lead, but the Cowboys regained it after the 2016 season. Green Bay currently sits at #3 with a winning percentage of 57.28%.

These are the only teams that are legitimately competing for the top spot for at least a decade. Three other teams, the Bears, Chiefs Dolphins are in 4th to 6th place at around 55.3%.

The Cowboys can regain the lead with two more wins than the Ravens in 2025. The Packers will take 2nd place with 3 more wins than the Cowboys and they will take 1st place with 5 more wins than the Ravens.

Some care, some don't, and I get it. To each his own.

Jerry Jones - the gift that keeps on giving

 

[CowboysRule]

Jimmy was highly sought after by at least four teams.

Without Jimmy, there would be no three Super Bowls and nothing for Jerry to ever claim as success.

The only reason Jimmy chose the Cowboys was Jerry's contractual agreement that Jimmy make all football related decisions.

How'd he do with the Dolphins?

 

[FVSTONE]

I agree at this point in the Cowboys history. Baltimore also had the benefit of not being a true expansion team. They were actually the Cleveland Browns. After the sudden move and subsequent legal battle, the Ravens owner agreed to relinquish the name and the history of the Cleveland Browns to an expansion team in Cleveland.

Therefore, the Ravens roster was not comprised of rookies and castoffs, the Ravens started with a legitimate team.

They were also fortunate in that their very first draft as the Ravens gave them both Hall of Famers Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis.

The Cowboys didn't even get to participate in the draft when they started in 1960.

As I stated they have better football minds running their organization than the Cowboys do. Let's not forgot that JJ didn't turn the Cowboys into AMERICA'S TEAM, Tom Landry and Co did the hard work. One more thing, it was the current GM who started the Cowboy's downward spiral more than 30 plus years ago.

 

[Johannes44]

All this and more sacrificed for one man’s hubris

 

[KJJ]

I’ll be glad when the Cowboys are no longer the richest franchise. That will really get to the Joneses.

 

[Johannes44]

I’ll be glad when the Cowboys are no longer the richest franchise. That will really get to the Joneses.

If there is anything that will bring about a change in the current course it will be that. Mass layoffs can be expected when the Cowboys are no longer the most valuable franchise in the world.

 

[Bobhaze]

How'd he do with the Dolphins?

HAHA! One of the weakest arguments ever is that Jimmy was “nothing without Jerry”, and that “he did nothing in Miami”.

Jimmy won a national championship at Univ of Miami without Jerry…and since I’m sure you meant the Miami Dolphins…in four seasons with the fins, Jimmy had a 36-28 record and went 2-3 in five playoff games. That means his teams at Miami made the playoffs 75% of the time, and won 40% of the playoff games he had in Miami.

Jimmy has been gone 31 years. In those 31 years, the Cowboys didn’t even make the playoffs 15 times! Which means since Jimmy left, the Cowboys have made the playoffs 49% of time. And in the last 29 years have won a whopping two more playoff games than Jimmy won in 4 years in Miami.

Jimmy Johnson built those great Cowboys teams of the 90s. He was in charge of personnel. He literally had in his contract. Let me ask you….how has Jerry done since Jimmy left?

If you want to defend Jerry be my guest.

 

[dupree89]

The Schramm-Landry years: 1960-1988. 29 seasons.

• 18 playoff seasons in 29 years.
• 20 playoff wins
• 14 playoff wins in the 70s.
• 5 NFC championships
• 2 SB wins
• 10 NFC championship appearances (7 in the 70s, 3 in the 80s)
• 20 playoff wins in 29 years.

The Jerry Jones era: 1989-present. 36 seasons.

• 18 playoff seasons in 29 years.
• 16 playoff wins.
• 12 playoff wins in the 90s.
• 3 NFC championships.
• 3 SB wins.
• 4 NFC championship game appearances (all 4 in the 90s; zero since)
• 16 playoff wins in 36 years. (Only 5 playoff wins in the last 29 years)

thanks Bobby, you are a walking encyclopedia of all things Dallas Cowboys