Cowboys Nutritionist Speaks

[HeavyBarrel]

You know I read somewhere that stretching before a workout increases the chance of injuries.

Correct, you "run to stretch" not "stretch to run" you warm up then stretch, not one NFL teams hits the field and immediately stretches.

 

[Setackin]

He has been training nonstop for the past month. It looks like they had to teach him to eat enough to train at that intensity but he talked about it and it resolved itself. It certainly seems like he might struggle to boil water but he is right. Eating fast food will help him gain weight.

At this point it's intellectual triage. He's under Marinelli, Lett etcs thumb. I trust that Garrett and his staff know what they are doing.

Lol ok...
pizza + exercise = championship
Proper diet + exercise = bum

 

[DandyDon52]

Lol ok...
pizza + exercise = championship
Proper diet + exercise = bum

LOL better to avoid things like steak and potatoes, when you can have tasty pizza's .....papa johns?? lol or those nutrient rich in and out burgers fries and shakes.

Truth is they dont care how he gains the weight as long as it is fast and he gets up to a certain weight.
Heck even lynch uses the crap candy thinking it gives him a sugar energy boost during games. Truth is sugar can have the opposite effect too.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Oh come on, we all know the Eagles are the ONLY team employing nutrionalists!

 

[xwalker]

Oh come on, we all know the Eagles are the ONLY team employing nutrionalists!

"nutrionalists"

It that a combination of a nutritionist and a journalist?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lol ok...
pizza + exercise = championship
Proper diet + exercise = bum

No you are leaving stuff out like training, practice, techniques, assignments, and all the other stuff that the coaches have him learning as well. That is what I meant by triage. Nutrition and life skills like shopping and cooking are important. They are obviously not as important as the other stuff.

You can have a pizza at the end of the day in a 'proper' diet when your goal is to gain weight and you have been eating at VR for 10 hours a day. You have been shown how it has been given time. While you would prefer he eat chicken and brown rice a pizza is easier to gain weight with. It is what it is.

 

[windjc]

Yeah. The peanut butter itself makes sense. Obviously, you're not going to load up on fiber and run out there. I think I was expecting something more on the order of what cycling teams do to load for energy with soluble protein gels and healthy fat and less like the sort of thing our wrestling team mom's do before a match. More than anything, though, it surprised me that they had a single part-time nutritionist in that capacity for 53-80 athletes. Not just for games and the like but for camp and for the long-haul of a ~19 game season.

+1

I think many in the NFL have a ways to go to really master top level nutrition amongst players.

I know it must be hard, as these players are mostly DNA freaks who have been able to and use to eating anything and everything and still outperforming everyone else everyday.

However, at the highest level, its about being the "best version of yourself." I believe we have heard Garrett say these same words 1000 times. So unless these athletes are feasting upon the highest nutrition diet possible, they aren't going to be able compare the difference that it (could) make.

We see in this thread arguments for how peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are perfectly OK for halftime snacks. Will peanut butter and jelly sandwiches give these DNA freaks energy and make them feel better? Sure, probably. But would a low sugar impact organic protein with high quality carb without perservatives or GMO foods give them better performance? Yes, probably.

At this point, saying that "its the NFL, they know what there doing" is the same head in the sand approach that had pregnant women smoking cigarettes recommended by Doctors in the 1950s.

 

[Garrettop]

I'll just leave this here:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...at-press-coverage?campaign=facebook_atn_patra

The second-year receiver vowed to run through the wall this time around. In that spirit, he changed his lifestyle this offseason, including cutting fast food out of his diet.

"It was hard to give up because I used to eat it every day," said Brown.

Now that the heartburn that bothered him during practices last year is gone, he feels fresher.

"Once I went to practice without fast food (in my stomach), I felt so much better," Brown said. "I don't even look at restaurants any more. I've put on a lot of muscle, and I'm feeling stronger and better."

This is another reminder that fast food, while it may taste wonderful in the moment, is the Beelzebub of the food world.


According to Arians, Brown added 10 pounds of muscle, mostly to his upper body, which will help him against the press coverage that stymied him last season -- it should be noted that the Cards' QB situation late in the season didn't help Brown's cause either.

 

[AbeBeta]

I envision a couple people as being the wimpy kid in school that had plans to become a muscle guy and get their revenge on the bullies. In the process, the believed everything in muscle and fitness and now think their m&f subscription made them experts on nutrition and working out.

Plus they have to justify why they spend so much on protein shakes when 30 cents worth of food would have been just as effective

 

[windjc]

Plus they have to justify why they spend so much on protein shakes when 30 cents worth of food would have been just as effective

These type of stereotypes have nothing to do with what most of us are talking about. Protein shakes - most of them - aren't high nutrition foods. But unfortunately, unless you have a garden and paid 30 cents for seeds you planted and grew yourself, 30 cents isn't going to buy you much of a bite of anything really good for you.

 

[AbeBeta]

These type of stereotypes have nothing to do with what most of us are talking about. Protein shakes - most of them - aren't high nutrition foods. But unfortunately, unless you have a garden and paid 30 cents for seeds you planted and grew yourself, 30 cents isn't going to buy you much of a bite of anything really good for you.

2 slices whole grain bread. 1 tablespoon peanut butter. Pretty consistent with 30 cents a sandwich

 

[windjc]

2 slices whole grain bread. 1 tablespoon peanut butter. Pretty consistent with 30 cents a sandwich

Organic Peanut Butter and Sprouted Organic grain bread. $10 + $3.50 = $13.50. 20 peanut butter sandwiches. Over .74 cents per sandwich. Although, I'm wouldn't call this a balanced nutritional diet or even a decent meal. Perhaps one or part of one of several small meals throughout the day.

 

[AbeBeta]

Organic Peanut Butter and Sprouted Organic grain bread. $10 + $3.50 = $13.50. 20 peanut butter sandwiches. Over .74 cents per sandwich. Although, I'm wouldn't call this a balanced nutritional diet or even a decent meal. Perhaps one or part of one of several small meals throughout the day.

I buy two 28oz things of organic peanut butter for $12 bucks. That cuts 4 bucks off your estimate. 1 oz is a serving - so that's $8.5 bucks of peanut butter. Even with your $3.50 bread that's 55 cents. You use a high quality non organic bread and it is cheaper. You use a non-organic PB and it is cheaper. I'm not anti-organic by any means but the clear advantage of organic is not nutritional.

 

[locked&loaded]

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/11/04...cnuggets-in-10-days/?iid=nf-article-trend-now

Usain Bolt diet

 

[AbeBeta]

And also, why do they care about what the coaches eat? Other than when Kiffin was here and needing regular fiber.

Yeah. Why would you want they guys who tell you what to do all day to model good behaviors?

 

[windjc]

Yeah. Why would you want they guys who tell you what to do all day to model good behaviors?

This is part of the reason there is a deficiency in this area. Most coaches come from "old school" - just rub some dirt on it or, in this case, feed the kid some eggs and bacon and he'll be fine. Especially since these coaches have coached DNA freaks most of their lives. If you haven't seen the difference to compare, how do you know? Its a long learning curve imo.

 

[Idgit]

Yeah. Why would you want they guys who tell you what to do all day to model good behaviors?

These aren't second graders. They aren't going to be fooled by what the coaches eat, so modeling hardly enters into it. And the coaches aren't going to be eating like the athletes, anyway.

 

[AbeBeta]

These aren't second graders. They aren't going to be fooled by what the coaches eat, so modeling hardly enters into it. And the coaches aren't going to be eating like the athletes, anyway.

Wow. Some days you really own that username.

It is a fact of human nature that the more you see people around you behaving in a certain manner, the more normative and desirable those behaviors become. That's a fact for everyone, not just children.

You factor in that the coaches are people the players often look up to, respect, and see as role models and you get some pretty strong influences there.

More generally, the idea that any organization shouldn't care about its employees engaging in healthy behaviors is particularly absurd. But I'm sure you'll find some idgiotic argument against that as well.

 

[Idgit]

Wow. Some days you really own that username.

It is a fact of human nature that the more you see people around you behaving in a certain manner, the more normative and desirable those behaviors become. That's a fact for everyone, not just children.

You factor in that the coaches are people the players often look up to, respect, and see as role models and you get some pretty strong influences there.

More generally, the idea that any organization shouldn't care about its employees engaging in healthy behaviors is particularly absurd. But I'm sure you'll find some idgiotic argument against that as well.

Actually, I was going to disagree with you again, but then I walked through the break room and saw my boss eating a donut and I immediately dropped everything and engaged in a glazed-sugar orgy of fried dough and shame that I was powerless to resist because of all the behavior modeling I'd been subjected tnce this shame wears off and the insulin shock recedes, I intend to march into HR and tell them it's imperative that these men I look up to, respect, and see as my role models start demonstrating the sorts of behaviors that will help me be successful at my job.

Just kidding. I'm an adult. I eat what I feel is appropriate. I don't have a boss, but if I did, I wouldn't care what he eats, either, assuming he was also an adult and not one of my children.

Now, if I were a professional athlete, it would be a different story. I'd want an actual nutritionist because the relationship between what I eat and how I perform would be much more significant for an endurance competition.

 

[AbeBeta]

Actually, I was going to disagree with you again, but then I walked through the break room and saw my boss eating a donut and I immediately dropped everything and engaged in a glazed-sugar orgy of fried dough and shame that I was powerless to resist because of all the behavior modeling I'd been subjected tnce this shame wears off and the insulin shock recedes, I intend to march into HR and tell them it's imperative that these men I look up to, respect, and see as my role models start demonstrating the sorts of behaviors that will help me be successful at my job.

Just kidding. I'm an adult. I eat what I feel is appropriate. I don't have a boss, but if I did, I wouldn't care what he eats, either, assuming he was also an adult and not one of my children.

Now, if I were a professional athlete, it would be a different story. I'd want an actual nutritionist because the relationship between what I eat and how I perform would be much more significant for an endurance competition.

You aren't a 22 year old living on his own in his first real world situation though are you? For many of these kids, the coaches and vets are the only support system they have. You are also missing you aren't in a ton of situations where you are sharing meals and have the same food choices right in front of you.