Cowboys offense really missing Sean Payton

[dthahn]

I watched the 4th quarter of the Eagles-Saints game after the station turned away from the Cowboys game because of the blowout.

What I saw was Drew Brees picking that lame Eagles secondary apart and making the Eagles defense pay each time they blitzed Brees.

Each time the Eagles did that middle blitz, the Saints had a Tight End go out on a short pattern to the area vacated by the defensive blitzes! Why couldn't the Cowboys do that.

When Philly blitzed from the side, I saw a couple of rollouts by Brees with a dump off pass to receiver to the area again vacated by the blitzer.

These plays were quick hitting plays. If we had Payton calling plays for us last week, Bledsoe would have picked that lame Philly secondary apart too.

The good news is that we now have a blueprint along with the rest of the league on how to beat the Eagles. I predict the Eagles to struggle especially with the difficult part of their schedule coming up.

 

[Bob Dole]

Part of that is that Brees is a good QB with some mobility, while Bledsoe is a ******.

 

[Kangaroo]

I watched the 4th quarter of the Eagles-Saints game after the station turned away from the Cowboys game because of the blowout.

What I saw was Drew Brees picking that lame Eagles secondary apart and making the Eagles defense pay each time they blitzed Brees.

Each time the Eagles did that middle blitz, the Saints had a Tight End go out on a short pattern to the area vacated by the defensive blitzes! Why couldn't the Cowboys do that.

When Philly blitzed from the side, I saw a couple of rollouts by Brees with a dump off pass to receiver to the area again vacated by the blitzer.

These plays were quick hitting plays. If we had Payton calling plays for us last week, Bledsoe would have picked that lame Philly secondary apart too.

The good news is that we now have a blueprint along with the rest of the league on how to beat the Eagles. I predict the Eagles to struggle especially with the difficult part of their schedule coming up.

They have a QB that can hit those throws we do not

 

[Crown Royal]

While we were better, it isn't as if our offense was lights out with Payton here. But it was better.

I'm all for firing Haley and hiring an actual offensive coordinator to run the offense. Crazy thought, huh?

 

[canters]

We may miss Peyton, but a large portion of the problem, no headlines here, is Bledsoe. He seems shell-shocked and lately looks for Glenn to the exlcusion of others. How mamy strange passes has he thrown in the last 2 games?

A couple of the TD passes to TO were out of the Quincy Q book,,,,,throw it up,,pray,,,,hope for the best.

I guess a QB can only take so much,,,and he has taken alot.

 

[Redball Express]

The obvious difference is that Payton had all week to watch the game film and prepare for the blitzes the Iggles would run.

Being that their offense is basically the same as ours, I can see he would be able to adjust to neutralize things.

And if you would have seen the game, you would know that the Saints stayed with running the ball right up to the end. We didn't. And they spead the Iggles defense with lots of 3-WR sets to spead the defense and not let them blitz.

The Iggles had to look for the run before teeing off at the QB agianst the Saints. The Iggles never worried about us beating them with running the ball as we always abandon the run once we get behind.

Next question.

parcellswaterboy

 

[Aikbach]

Fellas' the 2006 Saints are the 2003 Cowboys with a better running game and QB. Those receivers aren't all-stars but have been productive thanks to leadership. That defense is not scary, name a member of that secondary,only the linebackers catch your attention and that is because they're former Cowboys. 5-1 is 5-1 and I do predict New Orleans will make the playoffs but i doubt the current enthusiasm will be as vibrant, I predict they come down to earth a bit and finish 10-6 with a Wild Card exit just like the 2003 Cowboys.

 

[Eddie]

Fellas' the 2006 Saints are the 2003 Cowboys with a better running game and QB. Those receivers aren't all-stars but have been productive thanks to leadership. That defense is not scary, name a member of that secondary,only the linebackers catch your attention and that is because they're former Cowboys. 5-1 is 5-1 and I do predict New Orleans will make the playoffs but i doubt the current enthusiasm will be as vibrant, I predict they come down to earth a bit and finish 10-6 with a Wild Card exit just like the 2003 Cowboys.

Joe Horn is a Pro Bowler. How can you say NO doesn't have an All Star WR? You watching this game???

NO has good talent, and they play solid Defense.

Give them their props. They deserve it. 5-1 is serious business. So you're saying they go 5-5 for rest of the season. Man, I'll bet my yearly paycheck against yours they don't go 500 for the rest of the year.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

ROMO can be like Drew Brees.......successful and smart

 

[Reality]

The Cowboys are averaging 29.4 points per game .. The Saints are averaging 24.2 points per game.

I like Peyton but stats are facts

 

[Crown Royal]

The Cowboys are averaging 29.4 points per game .. The Saints are averaging 24.2 points per game.

I like Peyton but stats are facts

We scored those points against the Skins, Titans and Texans.

What is our turnover differential compared to the Saints? I don't think we match their efficiency.

 

[Da Hammer]

Fellas' the 2006 Saints are the 2003 Cowboys with a better running game and QB. Those receivers aren't all-stars but have been productive thanks to leadership. That defense is not scary, name a member of that secondary,only the linebackers catch your attention and that is because they're former Cowboys. 5-1 is 5-1 and I do predict New Orleans will make the playoffs but i doubt the current enthusiasm will be as vibrant, I predict they come down to earth a bit and finish 10-6 with a Wild Card exit just like the 2003 Cowboys.

umm no. their D doesnt compare to the D we had in 03 as we were ranked #1 and our O isnt anywhere near as good or talented as this years Saints O

 

[Reality]

We scored those points against the Skins, Titans and Texans.

What is our turnover differential compared to the Saints? I don't think we match their efficiency.

Efficiency is determined by players on the field, not coaches on the sidelines. So, what you really meant to say is the Cowboys need the Saints players?

 

[Crown Royal]

Efficiency is determined by players on the field, not coaches on the sidelines. So, what you really meant to say is the Cowboys need the Saints players?

Their QB would do. That being said - if Payton is our coach, do you think we have Bledsoe or Romo out there? Let's not forget who liked Romo since his rookie year.

 

[Reality]

Their QB would do. That being said - if Payton is our coach, do you think we have Bledsoe or Romo out there? Let's not forget who liked Romo since his rookie year.

Oh, I'd take Brees in a heartbeat And Peyton has a proven track record as far as I'm concerned with quarterbacks.

I'm not saying Parcells is better than Peyton .. I'm not a huge Parcells fan, but I do respect what he has done for the Cowboys organization. I believe Peyton is a better coach in some ways than he was because of Parcells.

I just think that the major problem with the Cowboys so far has been Bledsoe's lack of mobility behind a line that is not bad but definitely not great. The defense has also given up too many long plays. Again, those issues are all on the players.

All I'm saying is that 29.4 points a game suggests that the coaching is not the problem.

-Reality

 

[Crown Royal]

Oh, I'd take Brees in a heartbeat And Peyton has a proven track record as far as I'm concerned with quarterbacks.

I'm not saying Parcells is better than Peyton .. I'm not a huge Parcells fan, but I do respect what he has done for the Cowboys organization. I believe Peyton is a better coach in some ways than he was because of Parcells.

I just think that the major problem with the Cowboys so far has been Bledsoe's lack of mobility behind a line that is not bad but definitely not great. The defense has also given up too many long plays. Again, those issues are all on the players.

All I'm saying is that 29.4 points a game suggests that the coaching is not the problem.

-Reality

I am, as a fan, indebted to Parcells for the turnaround he has done here. Our talent is far and away better than it was.

That being said, I think that Peyton as our OC would greatly improve us. We haven't been effective against good defense (10 points against jax, turnovers galore against Philly). While I agree that this is on our players for the most part, I think it also has to do with our offensive coaches, play calling, and overall philosophy. Parcells' offensive gameplanning has always aggravated me. He plays it not to get beat, not to beat the other team. We hear about this 'smashmouth' style, but we have yet to stick it to the other defenses. I hate that.

I think the coaching has a big thing to do with that. With an effective offensive coordinator, even with bledsoe, we might look better.

For instance, I'm shocked that Bledsoe hasn't been taught to change the snap count or look for a hot read. I've yet to see him change the count or call at the line when they show blitz.

 

[Reality]

I am, as a fan, indebted to Parcells for the turnaround he has done here. Our talent is far and away better than it was.

That being said, I think that Peyton as our OC would greatly improve us. We haven't been effective against good defense (10 points against jax, turnovers galore against Philly). While I agree that this is on our players for the most part, I think it also has to do with our offensive coaches, play calling, and overall philosophy. Parcells' offensive gameplanning has always aggravated me. He plays it not to get beat, not to beat the other team. We hear about this 'smashmouth' style, but we have yet to stick it to the other defenses. I hate that.

I think the coaching has a big thing to do with that. With an effective offensive coordinator, even with bledsoe, we might look better.

For instance, I'm shocked that Bledsoe hasn't been taught to change the snap count or look for a hot read. I've yet to see him change the count or call at the line when they show blitz.

I think the team would improve dramatically coaching wise by replacing the line coach who can't seem to teach good linemen how to block in Parcells scheme.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I watched alot of the philly game, since ours was such a sleeper. Once philly fell way behind they didn't keep coming untill the end of the game. Our problem against philly was the blitz right up the middle, NO controlled that from what I could see. Breeze was getting rid of the ball on his second step.

 

[Crown Royal]

I think the team would improve dramatically coaching wise by replacing the line coach who can't seem to teach good linemen how to block in Parcells scheme.

:shrug: They seem to be able to run block OK.

 

[Aikbach]

J How can you say NO doesn't have an All Star WR? You watching this game???

NO has good talent, and they play solid Defense.

I'll bet my yearly paycheck against yours they don't go 500 for the rest of the year.

It's a deal we shall trade paychecks. But Dallas had Joey Galloway and Terry glenn and the NFL's #1 ranked defense and Sean Peyton as an assistant.

I never said they haven't played well and truly they are indeed 5-1 but I think they possess remarkable similarities to the 2003 squad Dallas saw.