Cowboys owner Jerry Jones downgrades Brandon Weeden to 'limited'

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It only took a fortnight for Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to downgrade Brandon Weeden from the most "gifted passer" in football history to merely a "limited" quarterback who isn't a difference-maker.

Two days after Weeden completed all seven of his passes to finish off a 20-10 win over the NFCEast rival Philadelphia Eagles after starting Cowboys QB Tony Romo went down with a broken collarbone in Week 2, Jones could barely contain himself while raving about his backup in an interview with 105.3 The Fan.

“This quarterback Weeden can drive the ball down field,” Jones said. “He’s a thing of beauty on throwing a football. His passing motion and his arm, frankly, you won’t see a more gifted passer, power, accuracy, the entire aspect of it. If he can basically prepare, be the starting quarterback, come in and execute and keep his head right, then I feel good about Weeden.”

After Weeden's second start of the season resulted in another loss — this time a 26-20 overtime defeat at the hands of Drew Brees and the New Orleans SaintsJones changed his tune with the Star-Telegram.

“I thought he did real good,” owner Jerry Jones said. “He did good all night long. He took his initial look and threw it. He does some real good things, though it’s not quite apples and oranges when the guy on the other side of the deal is Brees and you’re dealing with a guy who is as limited as Weeden. We got in it even running out of time, or short-handed, in 2-minute or what have you, then these quarterbacks like Brees make a difference.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...des-brandon-weeden-to--limited-114611384.html
 

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Sad part is Brees was actually limited last night. Couldnt throw with any velocity or distance. The Weeden comment I will chalk up to less alcohol in the owners box last night.
 

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Johnnie Walker Jones, the GM, was clearly intoxicated again last night.
 

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Jerry Jones felt it was the right time to indicate his QB was "limited"?

"though it’s not quite apples and oranges when the guy on the other side of the deal is Brees and you’re dealing with a guy who is as limited as Weeden."

Nice confidence builder there Jerry!
 

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Talk about a hateful spin. Jerry never said Weeden was the most gifted passer and as for limitation those limitation have been more with what the coaches are asking of Weeden. Last week Weeden was incapable of the deep ball?

http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Examining-Cowboys-QB-Brandon-Weedens-night-and-limitations-39990797

In the 2 min drill Weeden needed just four plays to move into the New Orleans red zone. He completed passes of 24, 28 and 19 to Terrance Williams, Jason Witten and Cole Beasley, respectively, upping his completion percentage to 62 percent on the night.
It all culminated with a 20-yard touchdown strike to Williams on 4th-and-7 – a play that the Cowboys had dialed up unsuccessfully on several occasions in the game.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...e-game-heroics-not-enough-cowboys-second-half

My hope is Weeden earns the confidence of the coaches to be more aggressive.
 

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I think it's a fair assessment after all most think he is pretty "limited" as a gm
 

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Talk about a hateful spin. Jerry never said Weeden was the most gifted passer and as for limitation those limitation have been more with what the coaches are asking of Weeden. Last week Weeden was incapable of the deep ball?

http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Examining-Cowboys-QB-Brandon-Weedens-night-and-limitations-39990797

In the 2 min drill Weeden needed just four plays to move into the New Orleans red zone. He completed passes of 24, 28 and 19 to Terrance Williams, Jason Witten and Cole Beasley, respectively, upping his completion percentage to 62 percent on the night.
It all culminated with a 20-yard touchdown strike to Williams on 4th-and-7 – a play that the Cowboys had dialed up unsuccessfully on several occasions in the game.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/10/05/weeden’s-late-game-heroics-not-enough-cowboys-second-half

My hope is Weeden earns the confidence of the coaches to be more aggressive.


Yeah, that was a really lazy article.

Weeden did look more comfortable in the empty sets, didn't he? I'd say he's earned an opportunity to play more of them, assuming, of course, we have enough WRs or RBs to play them now.
 

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I think it's pretty obvious what he is saying though.. Weeden can't run the show on his own and do the things that most starters can do, like run hurry up, adjust play calls at the line, identify defensive gaps, etc.. You lose all of those advantages which are huge at this level and is essentially what won the game for NO.
 

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Fans get all giddy about "shake ups" because they're emotional about their team. All fine and dandy, but emotion often trumps reason in these cases.

I don't expect anything major to happen. There simply isn't enough depth right now to do anything significant. You want to hamper this team's further to "send a message"? Which is what exactly? Stop performing to your talent level?

Our offense has 0 playmakers and our defense is limited up front, while the DB's have suddenly forgot how to catch. Marinelli's defense thrives on turnovers, and he's had players in position both weeks numerous times to capitalize, but no one can.

I expect us to be more aggressive this week against the Pats, on offense at least. Get Ro and Hardy integrated into the defense and get back to fundamentals so we can have something positive to build on going into the bye and a big game against the Giants where hopefully Dez returns.
 

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Pretty stupid thing to say, particularly when Weeden has not been the reason we're 0-2 in his starts. Actually Weeden has played quite well. The whole checkdown BS has been blown way out of proportion. Found it funny when they showed a chart of Brees passing distribution in yard ranges, and the vast majority of his attempts and completions were 0-10 yards. They referred to it as Brees' ability to dissect a defense. When Weeden passes 0-10 yards it's because he can't do anything except check down. Bogus.
 

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Yeah, that was a really lazy article.

Weeden did look more comfortable in the empty sets, didn't he? I'd say he's earned an opportunity to play more of them, assuming, of course, we have enough WRs or RBs to play them now.

I thought he kept his cool and was being very accurate with those throws. He is putting the ball out there and hitting guys in stride even on the deeper balls he was throwing. I understand coaches trying to control the situation and avoid turnovers but you can't hold his hand forever they need to trust him more. I think he has earned that
 

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In related news, stock prices for the Jonny Walker Co. have jumped this monday by 18%.
 

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Talk about a hateful spin. Jerry never said Weeden was the most gifted passer and as for limitation those limitation have been more with what the coaches are asking of Weeden. Last week Weeden was incapable of the deep ball?

http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Examining-Cowboys-QB-Brandon-Weedens-night-and-limitations-39990797

In the 2 min drill Weeden needed just four plays to move into the New Orleans red zone. He completed passes of 24, 28 and 19 to Terrance Williams, Jason Witten and Cole Beasley, respectively, upping his completion percentage to 62 percent on the night.
It all culminated with a 20-yard touchdown strike to Williams on 4th-and-7 – a play that the Cowboys had dialed up unsuccessfully on several occasions in the game.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/10/05/weeden’s-late-game-heroics-not-enough-cowboys-second-half

My hope is Weeden earns the confidence of the coaches to be more aggressive.

That drive last night reminded me of the first game of the season w/Romo. The urgency level was the same. Something is wrong with the play calling. Don't fault Weeden for the coaches inability to open up the play book.
 

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That drive last night reminded me of the first game of the season w/Romo. The urgency level was the same. Something is wrong with the play calling. Don't fault Weeden for the coaches inability to open up the play book.

I don't fault Weeden and I actually understand why the Cowboys coaches have kept him on a leash. They are trying to play safe and avoid the big mistakes, however the NO game they did put a bit more on him than the Alt game. The fact that Weeden went out and executed what they put on his plate I think will only create more trust and hopefully giving him more leeway.

I think the easy thing to do is look to place blame but I also think you have to look at things from all sides. For me I understand why Linehan has called it as he has, I just hope Weeden has shown enough for them to put more trust in him
 

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I don't fault Weeden and I actually understand why the Cowboys coaches have kept him on a leash. They are trying to play safe and avoid the big mistakes, however the NO game they did put a bit more on him than the Alt game. The fact that Weeden went out and executed what they put on his plate I think will only create more trust and hopefully giving him more leeway.

I think the easy thing to do is look to place blame but I also think you have to look at things from all sides. For me I understand why Linehan has called it as he has, I just hope Weeden has shown enough for them to put more trust in him

I hear you, but I got to find some one to blame for this mess! We could have won last night, but you've got special teams gaffes that have NEVER been addressed, you've got a cold CM coming in on 3rd and 1, and you got timeouts not called at the right time. I am trying to hold out hope, but some of the idiocy is wearing me down!
 

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I think it's pretty obvious what he is saying though.. Weeden can't run the show on his own and do the things that most starters can do, like run hurry up, adjust play calls at the line, identify defensive gaps, etc.. You lose all of those advantages which are huge at this level and is essentially what won the game for NO.

I understand, but it really looked like the defense falling apart on one play in OT won them the game, Weeden got the job done up to that point......
 

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Sad part is Brees was actually limited last night. Couldnt throw with any velocity or distance. The Weeden comment I will chalk up to less alcohol in the owners box last night.

Elite QBs can be limited and still shred the Cowboys defense we saw the same thing with a one legged Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs.
 
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