Cowboys post-combine draft #1

[Sasquatch]

I like it, although if we wait till the 4th to draft a RB, I hope it's Georgia's Thomas Brown, a quick, powerful RB w/ some game-breaking potential, he'd probably hold up better than Forsett

but I like Forsett too, he's a game-breaker

I thought it was a good draft, too, but didn't Forsett and Brown run disappointing 40's at the combine? I can't seem to remember.

 

[StarHead69]

Cason sure does seem to stir up a lot of debate lately! We will certainly take the best CB available at #22... let's just hope it's not a major reach. As far as your mock goes, Something tells me that Hardy will be the first WR taken, and he will go suprisingly early (10-15). I dont see us even being interested in Red Bryant.

It does cover all the bases tho'

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I thought it was a good draft, too, but didn't Forsett and Brown run disappointing 40's at the combine? I can't seem to remember.

I think Brown ran a 4.5, or maybe it was a 4.55, don't recall Forsett's time, but I remember it wasn't what I was expecting

Brown seemed more of a really, quick guy than a fast guy when I watched him play, he can stop and start on a dime, although Drew Boylhart did a write-up on him and said he was fast

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Cason sure does seem to stir up a lot of debate lately! We will certainly take the best CB available at #22... let's just hope it's not a major reach. As far as your mock goes, Something tells me that Hardy will be the first WR taken, and he will go suprisingly early (10-15). I dont see us even being interested in Red Bryant.

It does cover all the bases tho'

why not? we spoke to him at I think the Combine

 

[DFWJC]

Why pass on an everydown back for a one dimensional player? Medenhall imo will be an everydown back with home run potential (I also think he'll be gone by 22) so if the choice would be him or CJohnson, I'd take Medenhall without a second thought.

If we take a one dimensional guy, it means we'll be picking another one dimensional guy to replace Barber in 5 years or so cause we'll have a guy we doubt can carry the load himself. Not to mention what will we do if Barber gets injured. We should take the best RB (when ever we pick a RB), not the best compliment.

The one thing I have never heard a scout say about Chris Johnson is that he is one dimensional. Good grief man, the dud is extremely versatile and part of his upside is that he could even become moreso. He does have a powerful body (good thighs and upper body) and scouts say his 197lbs could easily go to 210 without losing the speed.
I don't want harp to much on this becaseu I too really like Mendenhall--I jusat think he is gone before CJ.

 

[DFWJC]

sorry about the sloppy spelling
cheers

 

[Sasquatch]

I think Brown ran a 4.5, or maybe it was a 4.55, don't recall Forsett's time, but I remember it wasn't what I was expecting

Brown seemed more of a really, quick guy than a fast guy when I watched him play, he can stop and start on a dime, although Drew Boylhart did a write-up on him and said he was fast

Brown ran a 4.55. I couldn't find results for Forsett.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

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What does YOU having him go #22 in YOUR MOCK have to do with this?
I said I haven't seen him going in roud 1 in ANY MOCK, meaning mocks on the net, you can't count your OWN MOCK draft as proof he's in someone else's 1st round mock! LOL
I don't base my mocks off of what i see from other mocks i get a general idea of where the players are rated at than i would change my mock depending on what i feel we need the most. If you look at the mock i had last time i had CJ at 28 and then the one be4 that i believe i had him going to us in the second round.

GRRRRRRRRR!
try and pay attention, I'm saying that NO ONE ELSE has him ranked as a 1st rounder in any mocks I see, you are the ONLY one I see that has CJ going in round 1 is all I'm saying!

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English PLEASE, I don't speak ebonics, HUH????????
My fault i never knew that disparity was ebonics. Let me break it down the talent levels of picks 20-62 are about the same level theres a huge talent difference between a top 5 pick and a 22nd pick.

UM, NO SH#T SHERLOCK!
REALLY?
There's a difference in talent between a top 5 pick and the 22nd pick? WOW I had no idea, W T F are you talkin about?
Where do you get this stuff from?
When have I said anything to the contrary?

You don't hold them in the same regard and shouldn't. If you still don't understand beyond that then i don't know.

I DON'T HOLD THEM IN THE SAME REGARD?????????
What on EARTH are you talkin about?

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I don't get what you mean ALONGSIDE Barber, I want a R.B. who when he comes in for Barber can make plays and is a good R.B., Stewart and Mendenhall are a LOT BETTER R.B.'s then CJ and we'd be FOOLISH to pass on one of them because we want the compliment "speed" back to pair with Barber and not just pick the BEST R.B.!
I don't like the idea of having two power backs. They can game plan for both of them very easily and don't have to make many adjustments.

A R.B. is a R.B., and I don't know that teams GAMEPLAN different for a faster R.B. is all!
They try to stop the run, REGARDLESS of who's running the ball!

The only better all around RB in this draft than CJ is Dmac and no1 in the nation average more all purpose yards per game than CJ in the NCAA so for you to classify him a just a "speed" back is ridic.

REALLY?
Mendenhall or Stewart are NOT BETTER all around R.B.'s???????????
You are taking the ALL PURPOSE YARDS out of context!
His ALL PURPOSE yards are also from PUNT AND KICKOFF Returns, you act like because he has ALL PURPOSE YARDS he's a better "R.B." because he has more ALL PURPOSE yards which one has NOTHING to do with the other, if you wanna say CJ has more TEAM Value because he can be used as a returner also, that's fine, but to say he's the better ALL AROUND "R.B." because he has ALL PURPOSE yards which have NOTHING to do with him as a RUNNING BACK is just ********!
That's like saying Ted Ginn and Desean Jackson are better "ALL AROUND" W.R.'s then Malcolm Kelly because they have more ALL PURPOSE YARDS then them!

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ENGLISH AGAIN, HUH????????
I dont' understand what this means, you've seen him in the 1st round 1-2 round rock and his stock goes up?
Please explain this, again, I don't speak ebonics!
I think you're saying you at least seen him rank in the 1st round, so can you please post where you've seen him in round 1 please?
I don't know how much his stock went up after the combine since everyone knew prior to the combine that he'd runfast and probably have the fastest 40 time of everyone there, so it was already known he's fast as hell and would run great at the combines anyway.
Since you can't seem to comprehend what 1-2 means then i will explain it to you.

I understand 1-2, what I don't understand is

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1st round 1-2 round rock and his stock goes up? """

I'm supposed to understand 1-2 round rock?????

If he's projecting 1-2 that means late first early second. If his stock is on the rise that means he will move out of the early second field and solidify a spot into the late first round.

AGAIN, can you PLEASE show me ANYONE other than YOU that has him ranked as a 1st rounder please!
you said his stock is on the rise and you wouldn't mind picking him at #22, I am saying I don't see ANYONE that has him listed in the top 32 and it would be a total "REACH" for us to take him that high, so PLEASE show me someone who has him listed in round 1 in their mock OTHER than you!
I understand YOU are high on him, and I like him too, don't get me wrong, I just don't think he's #22 material and I don't know of any other site that has him listed in round 1 is all!

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Brown ran a 4.55. I couldn't find results for Forsett.

Forsett didn't run the 40

 

[DaBoys4Life]

GRRRRRRRRR!
try and pay attention, I'm saying that NO ONE ELSE has him ranked as a 1st rounder in any mocks I see, you are the ONLY one I see that has CJ going in round 1 is all I'm saying!






UM, NO SH#T SHERLOCK!
REALLY?
There's a difference in talent between a top 5 pick and the 22nd pick? WOW I had no idea, W T F are you talkin about?
Where do you get this stuff from?
When have I said anything to the contrary?



I DON'T HOLD THEM IN THE SAME REGARD?????????
What on EARTH are you talkin about?





A R.B. is a R.B., and I don't know that teams GAMEPLAN different for a faster R.B. is all!
They try to stop the run, REGARDLESS of who's running the ball!




REALLY?
Mendenhall or Stewart are NOT BETTER all around R.B.'s???????????
You are taking the ALL PURPOSE YARDS out of context!
His ALL PURPOSE yards are also from PUNT AND KICKOFF Returns, you act like because he has ALL PURPOSE YARDS he's a better "R.B." because he has more ALL PURPOSE yards which one has NOTHING to do with the other, if you wanna say CJ has more TEAM Value because he can be used as a returner also, that's fine, but to say he's the better ALL AROUND "R.B." because he has ALL PURPOSE yards which have NOTHING to do with him as a RUNNING BACK is just ********!
That's like saying Ted Ginn and Desean Jackson are better "ALL AROUND" W.R.'s then Malcolm Kelly because they have more ALL PURPOSE YARDS then them!






I understand 1-2, what I don't understand is

I'm supposed to understand 1-2 round rock?????




AGAIN, can you PLEASE show me ANYONE other than YOU that has him ranked as a 1st rounder please!
you said his stock is on the rise and you wouldn't mind picking him at #22, I am saying I don't see ANYONE that has him listed in the top 32 and it would be a total "REACH" for us to take him that high, so PLEASE show me someone who has him listed in round 1 in their mock OTHER than you!
I understand YOU are high on him, and I like him too, don't get me wrong, I just don't think he's #22 material and I don't know of any other site that has him listed in round 1 is all!

This is the last time i ever respond to one of your post again because talking to you is like talking to a wall.

CJ 236 attempts 1423 17 TD's rushing
Stewart 280 1722 11 TD's rushing
Mendenhall 262 1681 17 TD"S rushing.

more TD's than STewart the same as mendenhall less that 30 carries than mendenhall and less thaan 50 with stewart. A difference of no more than 300 yards and when it comes to catching out of the back field CJ is second to none.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

CJ 236 attempts 1423 17 TD's rushing
Stewart 280 1722 11 TD's rushing
Mendenhall 262 1681 17 TD"S rushing.

more TD's than STewart the same as mendenhall less that 30 carries than mendenhall and less thaan 50 with stewart. A difference of no more than 300 yards and when it comes to catching out of the back field CJ is second to none.

Now that's GREAT if this is what you used in the beginning, but you were sayign CJ is the better overall R.B. because he has more ALL PURPOSE YARDS!
I'm done!
Not too up on all the conferences and what not in college football since I'm not that big of a fan of college ball, but is CJ's numbers looking comparable to the other 2 R.B.'s in Mendenhall and Stewart because he played in a weaker conference?