Cowboys QB contract situation

[visionary]

According to Spotrac, Dak right now counts 59 mil against the cap in 2024.

The cowboys are right now projected to be 11 million over the cap.

The cowboys can’t carry a cap number that high for the QB. So their two options are: extend him or cut him.

Extending him allows them to spread money out further down the line and save space on the cap on 2024.

Cutting him post June 1 saves them 31 mil in 2024.

cutting him would save 18 mil against the cap.

Dak’s contract was designed to either be extended this offseason OR for the cowboys to move on.

As such, now’s the time to move on. You can’t extend Dak given how things went down again this season.

Cutting him plus making other moves with some contracts (cut Gallup, restructure players, resign Ceedee, etc) will add additional cap space putting the cowboys in actually decent shape cap wise.

The time has come to cut him and move on. Whether that’s giving Lance a season to see what he has or drafting a QB right away THIS offseason.

The time has come.

Cut or trade Dak

To me bringing him back at any number is s complete non starter. He is a proven loser in 3 offensive systems over 8 years

 

[zenmastersauce]

The D was horrific. A historic collapse

People don't seem to get how historic that display was. On average a team will get how many drives in a game? 7 to 10? 6 of the Packers first 7 drives were scores. That's about 86%. In the NFL that's madness. Tell me on what planet does this team win that?

 

[khiladi]

According to Spotrac, Dak right now counts 59 mil against the cap in 2024.

The cowboys are right now projected to be 11 million over the cap.

The cowboys can’t carry a cap number that high for the QB. So their two options are: extend him or cut him.

Extending him allows them to spread money out further down the line and save space on the cap on 2024.

Cutting him post June 1 saves them 31 mil in 2024.

cutting him would save 18 mil against the cap.

Dak’s contract was designed to either be extended this offseason OR for the cowboys to move on.

As such, now’s the time to move on. You can’t extend Dak given how things went down again this season.

Cutting him plus making other moves with some contracts (cut Gallup, restructure players, resign Ceedee, etc) will add additional cap space putting the cowboys in actually decent shape cap wise.

The time has come to cut him and move on. Whether that’s giving Lance a season to see what he has or drafting a QB right away THIS offseason.

The time has come.

Man, Jerry got fleeced by Todd..

 

[HungryLion]

Man, Jerry got fleeced by Todd..

Jerry and cap boy get fleeced regularly. It’s rather pathetic.

Not even just the Dak contract.

Jaylon smith…… Michael Gallup…… Demarcus Lawrence…. Zeke….. the list goes on and on.

 

[zenmastersauce]

None of those issues are solved by keeping Dak either.

The status quo has to change somehow.

But these issues were also before Dak no? Didn't Romo have similar issues in his career? And we still didn't win so what is that status quo? That's my question because if the absolute best solution is to blow it all up and start over I'm cool with that if it means success but it doesn't. We weren't just out coached we were plain out played. That's more than the talent we have that's prep and execution. I want a no rinse and repeat situation and that's all anyone seems to want to suggest.

 

[aikemirv]

Drafting qb won’t win many years. Texans got lucky will lose next round. Rookie qb ain’t winning for years.

Good offensive line and good receivers and they will win. Spend the money on the line!

 

[zenmastersauce]

It's not often that a 12-win team with a 2nd Team All-Pro QB finds itself in a pickle ... yet, here we are.

There is a fundamental roster construction problem with making someone with Dak's postseason history the highest-paid player in the game. And yet, for all the hype about firing McCarthy and hiring a big-name replacement, how desirable is this job if we’re starting over at the QB position?

The middle ground is just to run it back and hope to hang another divisional banner.

Basically. We don't draft high because we remain in that middle ground but we got some damned stars in our squad. The question is finding our issues and rooting them out.

 

[khiladi]

People don't seem to get how historic that display was. On average a team will get how many drives in a game? 7 to 10? 6 of the Packers first 7 drives were scores. That's about 86%. In the NFL that's madness. Tell me on what planet does this team win that?

Dallas was up 18-0 going into the half in TB and 24-0 around 5 minutes into the third after stopping another TB drive. It seems like just another stat to absolve Dak from sucking.

Dak contributed to 14 points against GB in the first half.

 

[khiladi]

Jerry and cap boy get fleeced regularly. It’s rather pathetic.

Not even just the Dak contract.

Jaylon smith…… Michael Gallup…… Demarcus Lawrence…. Zeke….. the list goes on and on.

Man, Smith and Gallup are up there..

 

[KMY_Amber]

Dumping Dak right now to start over with a rookie or Trey Lance? The Cowboys would have to be ready for a complete overhaul of the roster. Jerrah's too old for a complete roster overhaul, it's too late. So he's going with Dak for now, unless Trey starts looking amazing in practice (Not!).

Now if he could trade Micah for a first-round draft pick, and then if he could trade up to get a top-tier QB coming out of college, he'd consider it. But that's too many "ifs".

So, Dak is the Cowboys QB for the foreseeable future, and yes, he will be extended.

Jerrah is not starting over at the QB position, so get over it.

We better hope coaching changes and a few trades is all we need. If not, we're going to be waiting a lot longer for a Superbowl appearance.

 

[Swagger]

Turns out the NFC East is now a “very winnable” division. Dak just won it. Jerry has to believe he can win it next year with Dak.

The Cowboys should be well beyond just being happy winning the division with 9 All Pros on the team. Prescott has shown that he isn't able to perform and execute in the playoffs - seemingly the pressure is too much for him. But he can do a solid job for the Falcons in the regular season as they improve their team.

 

[zenmastersauce]

Dallas was up 18-0 going into the half in TB and 24-0 around 5 minutes into the third after stopping another TB drive. It seems like just another stat to absolve Dak from sucking.

Dak contributed to 14 points against GB in the first half.

I said that already. Of course he did. You can't get that back period. But what you can do is go out and best the other team down right? Buffalo had 3 TOs by Allen to Miami of all teams in the last game of the year and still won.

We can handle a 14 - 0 score at the half. How do we do that? Get stops. Period. Mad that Dak gave that up? hell yes but we get stops and we recover. We let them get scores on 86% of their drives man. They ran circles around us.

 

[HungryLion]

But these issues were also before Dak no? Didn't Romo have similar issues in his career? And we still didn't win so what is that status quo? That's my question because if the absolute best solution is to blow it all up and start over I'm cool with that if it means success but it doesn't. We weren't just out coached we were plain out played. That's more than the talent we have that's prep and execution. I want a no rinse and repeat situation and that's all anyone seems to want to suggest.

Keeping Dak is a rinse and repeat.

He isn’t the guy. He choked on Sunday. Straight up choked.

 

[khiladi]

I said that already. Of course he did. You can't get that back period. But what you can do is go out and best the other team down right? Buffalo had 3 TOs by Allen to Miami of all teams in the last game of the year and still won.

We can handle a 14 - 0 score at the half. How do we do that? Get stops. Period. Mad that Dak gave that up? hell yes but we get stops and we recover. We let them get scores on 86% of their drives man. They ran circles around us.

Because unlike Allen, Dak is one of the worst rated passers when trailing from behind. And Tua is as bad, if not worse, than Dak. Miami sucked against winning teams, just like Dallas.

 

[zenmastersauce]

Keeping Dak is a rinse and repeat.

He isn’t the guy. He choked on Sunday. Straight up choked.

Yes he scrapped the bed but I think we can still win with him. He ain't Mahomes so he needs those pieces we should have in the beginning like a run game. And since he did do what he did without that run game this year, I'll give him a bit of benefit for now. We gotta out him and the team as a whole in a place to simply do what they should. I can't say we did that at every level this year for the best success.

 

[Shannon1]

Probably right, but I'd give the new coach a voice in this.

lol there will be no new coach

 

[KMY_Amber]

Yes he scrapped the bed but I think we can still win with him. He ain't Mahomes so he needs those pieces we should have in the beginning like a run game. And since he did do what he did without that run game this year, I'll give him a bit of benefit for now. We gotta out him and the team as a whole in a place to simply do what they should. I can't say we did that at every level this year for the best success.

Agreed. And Jerrah's too old to start over at QB, so he ain't doing that unless Dak gets injured like Romo did later in his career.

With new coaches and a few more pieces, maybe this Cowboys team can win a playoff game. I lowered my bar. It was time. LOL

 

[HungryLion]

Yes he scrapped the bed but I think we can still win with him. He ain't Mahomes so he needs those pieces we should have in the beginning like a run game. And since he did do what he did without that run game this year, I'll give him a bit of benefit for now. We gotta out him and the team as a whole in a place to simply do what they should. I can't say we did that at every level this year for the best success.

Yeah I thought the same for the first 8 years.

 

[Verdict]

It’s unlikely, but let’s say Dak went to Jerry and said, “Hey, I stunk it up in the playoffs. I’ll play for $30m this year and if I win a SB you owe me the full $60m.” Would you bring Dak back under those terms?

 

[Creeper]

I think people are underestimating the impact of cutting Dak on the roster. As I posted somewhere else, cutting him after June 1 means you do not get the cap save until after June 1. At the point free agency is over and all that will be left are scraps. Plus, They take another CAP hit of $32 million in 2025. Cutting Dak means letting a lot of players on this roster go. Gallup only nets them an $800k save in 2024. Of course they can designate him a post-June 1 cut too (you are allowed only 2 I think), and that saves another $9.5 million but again, that money is not available until after June 1.

According to Over-the-CAP, the Cowboys are effectively $21 million over the CAP right now. I don't know which site is right but they have to clear CAP space to get under the CAP and hopefully sign their own players, or at least some of them.

I am not denying this can be done. Of course it can. The Cowboys can clear CAP space cut Dak, cut Gallup, let their free agents depart and field a team of cheap young players they draft or sign as UDFAs. What I doubt is that when this team we field starts losing games to the Giants and Commanders, and even the Eagles, the same fans clamoring to cut Dak immediately will not be in here complaining about Micah because he can't play 11 positions on defense, or CeeDee because he is only catching 1 pass per game. Or whoever the RB is because he is averaging 3 yards per carry and 23 yards per game. Because cutting Dak means some serious reductions in talent on this roster. And I just do not get why 12-5 and a division title is not good enough, but 5-12 or worse and no players or division titles is better. What if there is a way to win with Dak? Like for example build a defense that can actually stop the run and pressure the QB at the same time?