Cowboys QB contract situation

diamonddelts

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According to Spotrac, Dak right now counts 59 mil against the cap in 2024.

The cowboys are right now projected to be 11 million over the cap.

The cowboys can’t carry a cap number that high for the QB. So their two options are: extend him or cut him.

Extending him allows them to spread money out further down the line and save space on the cap on 2024.

Cutting him post June 1 saves them 31 mil in 2024.

cutting him would save 18 mil against the cap.

Dak’s contract was designed to either be extended this offseason OR for the cowboys to move on.

As such, now’s the time to move on. You can’t extend Dak given how things went down again this season.

Cutting him plus making other moves with some contracts (cut Gallup, restructure players, resign Ceedee, etc) will add additional cap space putting the cowboys in actually decent shape cap wise.

The time has come to cut him and move on. Whether that’s giving Lance a season to see what he has or drafting a QB right away THIS offseason.

The time has come.
Pay that man!
 

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Nah bro. Defense didn't even do anything. NOTHING.

Dak threw a pick 6 and took that sack...not really digging him for much else. I know...3 score games are now garbage time...


I don't even know why I bother with all of these overly emotional fans.
Please don't bother with us and don't go away mad....Just go away!
 

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I'm wondering if we could talk to Chicago.. they have pick 1 and 9. They need a QB.. Dak is a known quantity. We could give Dak for 9. That still gives them 1 to then address another need, plus they get a Vet QB with proven 'winning' record.

I know Dak has a no trade clause but I'd be talking to him about what his value looks like if his last game as starter was this stinker and then having to sit behind a rookie next year. Guys tend to see things differently when that is made clear.

Dak is not stupid.. he has to know that his stocks took a beating.. it wasn't just a bad game.. it was an historically bad game and it was another in a long line of failures.

I think he does have trade value.. particularly to an organisation that thinks they are better than ours and will be able to make better use of Dak.. there will be a suitor. Then it clears him off our books and we get a draft pick to go and get some defensive help. I'd personally give Lance a year and try to focus on getting our trenches right.

This year has a 'deep' QB class.. whilst that often means everyone wants to jump up the board to draft one.. I think it means that in 3 years you are going to have a lot of guys with a lot of upside that have been sitting behind a star starter or had injury and didn't quite make it. At the very least we need to have 2-3 young QBs developing at all times.
 

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I'm wondering if we could talk to Chicago.. they have pick 1 and 9. They need a QB.. Dak is a known quantity. We could give Dak for 9. That still gives them 1 to then address another need, plus they get a Vet QB with proven 'winning' record.

I know Dak has a no trade clause but I'd be talking to him about what his value looks like if his last game as starter was this stinker and then having to sit behind a rookie next year. Guys tend to see things differently when that is made clear.

Dak is not stupid.. he has to know that his stocks took a beating.. it wasn't just a bad game.. it was an historically bad game and it was another in a long line of failures.

I think he does have trade value.. particularly to an organisation that thinks they are better than ours and will be able to make better use of Dak.. there will be a suitor. Then it clears him off our books and we get a draft pick to go and get some defensive help. I'd personally give Lance a year and try to focus on getting our trenches right.

This year has a 'deep' QB class.. whilst that often means everyone wants to jump up the board to draft one.. I think it means that in 3 years you are going to have a lot of guys with a lot of upside that have been sitting behind a star starter or had injury and didn't quite make it. At the very least we need to have 2-3 young QBs developing at all times.
There are no alternatives except to cut him or pay him more. He has a no-trade clause in his contract. He's not worth another dollar more that what Jerry has already committed to
him. Time to dump all bloated contracts, cut the dead weight and tank next season so that the following year we can start the rebuilding process. This current team has blown its chances.
 

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There are no alternatives except to cut him or pay him more. He has a no-trade clause in his contract. He's not worth another dollar more that what Jerry has already committed to
him. Time to dump all bloated contracts, cut the dead weight and tank next season so that the following year we can start the rebuilding process. This current team has blown its chances.
The no trade clause just means that Dak would need to approve where he is going and the team can't shop him without permission. I think Dak is ready to move on and I think he will be ready to move on if JJ is clear that no big fat extension is coming.
 

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The no trade clause just means that Dak would need to approve where he is going and the team can't shop him without permission. I think Dak is ready to move on and I think he will be ready to move on if JJ is clear that no big fat extension is coming.
Frankly, Dak is a bumb and Jerry should hold onto him until just before the June 1st deadline. Who cares where he goes after that as long as he goes. Any team who pays him 60mil per season deserves what it gets.
 

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Time to cut the anchor. Resigning him will be an outright tragedy. Other teams have cut bait with quarterbacks that have lead them to playoffs, conference games and hell superbowls as they didn't think they had "it".

But Jerry is stubborn and will never move on.
 
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It's quite simple re Prescott.
Tell him he has no future at the Cowboys.
All parties can agree on a trade to a team that suits everyone.
Or he's cut after 1st June by which point every team will have their starter in place and he's left in a problematic position.
He will soon waive the trade clause.
 

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Potential suitors...

Washington
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
New Orleans
Raiders
Falcons
Seattle

Jerry would likely rather he join the AFC - Tennessee and the Raiders are the most realistic options.

However, I think Prescott would be a good fit for the Falcons. They are only a competent QB and decent head coach away from being a good playoff team in a very winnable division for several years. The other would be the Saints but in reality there's not much between Carr and Prescott so I wouldn't see them paying him whereas there's pressure on the Falcons to bring in a QB after they passed up on Jackson last season.

Seattle seem happy with Gino plus would Prescott really want to play in the same division as the 49ers.

I think the Falcons is the most realistic option if Jerry would let him stay in the NFC.
 

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Yes...let's cut him and pick high in the draft for the foreseeable future. Great idea.

Literally just had an MVP type season and people want to cut him because of a pick 6...lol

How about we get a good defense that actually can get some stops so a few mistakes don't turn into people thinking this is a madden offseason?
Every big game he chokes not just this one game. He reached his celing
 

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Will be very very interesting if Jerry does have the guts to make a move.. I'm not sure how many teams would actually bid for his services. The tape is out on Dak and has been for a long time.

Very rare that you hear defensive players outright disrespecting an opposition QB.. we've had at least 3 defensive players state via the media that the gameplan is to make Dak throw it and wait for the mistakes.

I think Dak had a bigger trade value 4 years ago.. now he has failed enough times that most coaches would be wary.

The teams that might be interested are those that are not even getting to the play offs.. maybe a small market team that just wants something to sell to the fans.. Frankly I just don't see many teams interested.. particularly when Dak wants to break the market rate.
 

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Potential suitors...

Washington
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
New Orleans
Raiders
Falcons
Seattle

Jerry would likely rather he join the AFC - Tennessee and the Raiders are the most realistic options.

However, I think Prescott would be a good fit for the Falcons. They are only a competent QB and decent head coach away from being a good playoff team in a very winnable division for several years. The other would be the Saints but in reality there's not much between Carr and Prescott so I wouldn't see them paying him whereas there's pressure on the Falcons to bring in a QB after they passed up on Jackson last season.

Seattle seem happy with Gino plus would Prescott really want to play in the same division as the 49ers.

I think the Falcons is the most realistic option if Jerry would let him stay in the NFC.
Turns out the NFC East is now a “very winnable” division. Dak just won it. Jerry has to believe he can win it next year with Dak.
 

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Turns out the NFC East is now a “very winnable” division. Dak just won it. Jerry has to believe he can win it next year with Dak.
The NFC East is still one of the weakest divisions in football. The Cowboys went 5-1 this year in the division.
 

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According to Spotrac, Dak right now counts 59 mil against the cap in 2024.

The cowboys are right now projected to be 11 million over the cap.

The cowboys can’t carry a cap number that high for the QB. So their two options are: extend him or cut him.

Extending him allows them to spread money out further down the line and save space on the cap on 2024.

Cutting him post June 1 saves them 31 mil in 2024.

cutting him would save 18 mil against the cap.

Dak’s contract was designed to either be extended this offseason OR for the cowboys to move on.

As such, now’s the time to move on. You can’t extend Dak given how things went down again this season.

Cutting him plus making other moves with some contracts (cut Gallup, restructure players, resign Ceedee, etc) will add additional cap space putting the cowboys in actually decent shape cap wise.

The time has come to cut him and move on. Whether that’s giving Lance a season to see what he has or drafting a QB right away THIS offseason.

The time has come.
If we cut him we might as well tank it honestly. Because we will still have issues on the defensive side we can't contend with. And while I like Lance, I don't see how our situation improves anymore than it is currently. We still have internal issues regarding just plain showing up.
 

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Yes...let's cut him and pick high in the draft for the foreseeable future. Great idea.

Literally just had an MVP type season and people want to cut him because of a pick 6...lol

How about we get a good defense that actually can get some stops so a few mistakes don't turn into people thinking this is a madden offseason?
I agree with you. I do t think it would change and the ones who would celebrate the move would be right back trying to blame the next thing. We got internal problems much more than anything we can lay at Daks feet. And while he carries that responsibility for him, he can't for all. You don't give up 6 scores drives in the first half and tell me it's all on his shoulders.
 

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If we cut him we might as well tank it honestly. Because we will still have issues on the defensive side we can't contend with. And while I like Lance, I don't see how our situation improves anymore than it is currently. We still have internal issues regarding just plain showing up.
None of those issues are solved by keeping Dak either.

The status quo has to change somehow.
 
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