Cowboys Salary Room: Stephen Jones - 'Cap Boy'? - Gives Dallas Top Spot in NFC East

Cowboys93

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Not in their pockets. It will eventually go to players. It means nothing to them personally. This is another myth fans need to get over.
If it makes one feel better to vent, then I guess they vent. To me it means nothing, so no need to vent. :laugh:
I haven’t complained in awhile I figured I was due for one :dance:
 

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Not in their pockets. It will eventually go to players. It means nothing to them personally. This is another myth fans need to get over.
If it makes one feel better to vent, then I guess they vent. To me it means nothing, so no need to vent. :laugh:
Yeah this always makes me laugh..."The Jones saving cap space to pocket it" no it doesnt work that way AND when they talk about money its not 20 mill add another digit to thier "Lets make some money" talks..lol
 

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I dont know, maybe we are looking forward to some really big contracts that must be taken care of.
Cant we roll this into next years cap?
 

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I dont know, maybe we are looking forward to some really big contracts that must be taken care of.
Cant we roll this into next years cap?
Yes it can be rolled over. And I think they can get some other type of cap credit for it as well.
 

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Too bad the OP had to throw another tantrum- this is actually a pretty decent topic. The real accomplishment of the Eagles was getting elite QB play on a rookie contract. Getting incredible trade value for Wentz and stockpiling draft capital. The Eagles gained this advantage while the Cowboys had to start paying $40 million a year for their QB. But now the bills are coming due. Let's see who manages the cap better over the next couple of seasons.
 

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While Philadelphia Eagles general manager Howie Roseman is often credited as being a genius at manipulating the salary cap, it's the Dallas Cowboys who appear to be in the best position cap wise as training camp approaches.

According to Over The Cap, owner/general manager Jerry Jones and the Cowboys currently have $20.45 million in cap space to work with. That's the seventh-highest total among all NFL teams, and tops among those in the NFC East. It's quite a bit more than the Eagles ($13.85 million), Washington Commanders ($11.57 million) and New York Giants ($3.82 million) have at their disposal.

...All of these numbers, plus Dallas' 24 regular-season wins in the last two years with a roster that figures to be able to do that again, could quiet the critics of COO Stephen Jones, derisively labeled "Cap Boy'' by his detractors.

What else is noteworthy is the the Cowboys have $14.85 million in dead cap space on the books in 2023, the lowest amount among NFC East teams. The aforementioned Elliott, offensive tackle La'el Collins, tight end Blake Jarwin, defensive tackle John Ridgeway and defensive end Takk McKinley combine for what is a manageable amount of dead cap space. The Eagles are among the league-leaders in 2023 dead cap space at $54.73 million ...


https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...iants-contracts-sign-dak-prescott-ceedee-lamb
The goal of managing a cap is to get as many talented players on the roster with supplementary pieces around them so that you are competing for Super Bowls. The Eagles did that (and won). The 49ers have been doing that.

The Rams did it for years and likely need to take a year or two to reset but that is okay. Being okay with being around the playoffs should not be the goal. The goal isn’t to be above average, but to go for it all when the time is right. Right now the time is right and the Cowboys are content watching time go by.

You see that dead cap space as a positive but I see it as a team content with mediocrity. After all if you just trot out the same thing that hasn’t worked, there are no cuts to make into dead money.
 

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ok dallas is the cap mgmt champs now what ?
you also need to know when to use it and for what players.

really better to have players who can play than a bunch of cap space your not going to use.
You’re not the sharpest nail in the box are you.
 

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If you are just going to sing a song of crap...then running a negative and unsermountable series of posts does NOTHING more than leave only a picture of pessimism and rewards just being an obstacle to even seeing real progress or when things are changing beyond anyone commenting more than just firing Jerry.

You guys are a crap load.

The turn key is the resigning of Prescott and that will allow the presented sums of cap to become realistic and Stephen getting to the process of wrapping top shelf talent for the immediate future as well.

To sign those contracts, by all means, that does diminish the funds aviailable.

Your negative views are about as on target and appreciated as a goat chewing on items on a clothesline...



The I.Q. required to dumb down what was already stated is astoundedly low as well as close to ignorant.



This is why and how it can work...and Stephen is the master of cap management right in the smack dab center of a great roster.



You guys dumb or just rascals who don't go to work in this morning?


Really think the cap money is just sitting around even though it can be lost eventually if NOT used?

Pizza sizes. Hand drawn. Vector infographic illustration. Small, medium and large.



The pizza on the left was cap available before Stephen started to renegotiate previously. The center pizza is what was available after release of Elliott. The right pizza is what will be available for new contracts after Prescott's is negotiated.

Fish is talking out of his you-know-what about Dak's contract. They've already restructured his 2023 cap figure down to as far as it can possibly go. An extension this year gives them LESS cap space, not more.

EDIT: Sorry... Tim Kelly. Whoever the heck that even is. Someone else who doesn't fact check his own writing, I guess.
 

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That's true. But it's not telling the whole story. There are a number of players who need new deals and some FA's were were signed to just one year deals. So as a snapshot of where the Cowboys are today it looks and sounds looks good. But it won't be long and that picture will change a lot. So telling me on June 20th the Cowboys are over $20M under the salary cap doesn't get me overly excited.

Side note - the salary cap is expected to go up around $20M in 2024.
You’d rather be told they were $20 mill over the cap? Miserable people just have to be miserable I suppose.
 

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if the plan is to use it to keep Lamb, Diggs and Parsons..then yeah probably pretty good..what 20 mill player comes in and replaces 2 of them?
Extensions don’t cost much on the current year’s cap. Diggs this year is a 5m$ cap hit. For comparison, Jalen Ramsay got a new sparkly 3y/55m$ contract when he got traded to Miami, and his 2023 cap hit is 3m$ after the signing bonus hits. Diggs’ may be a bit bigger contract than that, but his year 1 cap hit won’t be much different
 

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Cap Boy gonna Cap.

Let's not pretend he's going to use that $20.45 million in cap space to add talent.

He will use it to try to retain talent but will balk once that talent doesn't want to sign for a discount.

Same boat, same iceberg.
they are likely preparing to pay dak $60 million next season
 

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There are no prizes, or rewards for having the most CAP space. I'd rather they had no CAP space but won the Super Bowl.
 

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The goal of managing a cap is to get as many talented players on the roster with supplementary pieces around them so that you are competing for Super Bowls. The Eagles did that (and won). The 49ers have been doing that.

The Rams did it for years and likely need to take a year or two to reset but that is okay. Being okay with being around the playoffs should not be the goal. The goal isn’t to be above average, but to go for it all when the time is right. Right now the time is right and the Cowboys are content watching time go by.

You see that dead cap space as a positive but I see it as a team content with mediocrity. After all if you just trot out the same thing that hasn’t worked, there are no cuts to make into dead money.
So with that supposed educational redirection, you assume that is not first already known. Then don't further notice that fact of management already is in full process and the current roster is about as good as any around.

Don't go ahead at that point and explain just how things fail. When they already are top of the road in all processes building and maintaining talent on the current Dallas Cowboys.

Now isn't that talent and acute observation...

:clap::starspin:
 

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Fish is talking out of his you-know-what about Dak's contract. They've already restructured his 2023 cap figure down to as far as it can possibly go. An extension this year gives them LESS cap space, not more.

EDIT: Sorry... Tim Kelly. Whoever the heck that even is. Someone else who doesn't fact check his own writing, I guess.
If that is in fact the final say, then just how does the team make the three other contracts work. No, an inclusion of Dak expands the pie available contracts that will be top of position, for the other three.

Beyond being assenine, just do explain how that occurs without getting a carving knife and letting blood flow on the roster...
 

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Cap your way to a NFC Title game

idc how you do it...give Dak a 80 million dollar contract give him a hourly salary with no overtime...Give whoever whatever idc

I dont care if you sign Malik Davis and Will Grier to 50 million per game and start both if they get us there then its worth it

i want a NFCCG game appearance at the very least
 

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Prescott is midway through his second contract, a contract that pays him an average annual salary of $40 million over a four-year stretch. Soon, he’ll be on contract number three and the Cowboys front office has less than 15 months to get it done. This deal will likely be completed prior to the start of the 2024 season. The reason we are suggesting this time period is three-fold. First, they absolutely must reduce his almost $60 million cap hit for the 2024 season as that would be an incredible strain on the team’s ability to stay under the cap and still keep pieces around him. The best way to handle that would be a new deal that would see a much lower first-year cap hit that comes with a low base salary and a much more manageable pro-rated portion of their signing bonus.

The second reason why it’s likely to get done next August/September is that the team cannot allow him to hit free agency in 2025. If competing teams were allowed to be in on the Prescott free-agent sweepstakes, then his annual cost would be even higher. The Cowboys cannot allow that to happen.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ct-free-agent-highest-paid-player-nfl-history
 
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