Cowboys to pursue Simms?

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I'd be fine with Chris Simms. He's a big upgrade from what is here...

But I'm betting Dallas can't get him.

I've read a lot of things about the Bears really liking him. If you were a young QB who had ambitions on starting again, where do you think you are most likely to get a starting gig?
 

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joseephuss;2620668 said:
What form are you talking about? The Bucs were not going to the playoffs the year Simms got injured. He started the first 3 games that year(2006) and the Bucs lost all 3. He got hurt showing toughness to get that extra yard, but he was playing terribly that year. His QB rating was 46.3. He passed for 1 TD and 7 INTs and completed only 54.7%. Those were his worst stats of his then 4 year career.

I don't hate Simms. Never have. I think he got treated unfairly by Longhorns fans while in college. Still I just don't think he is a good NFL QB. Right now he is better than Brad Johnson. That just may not be good enough for Dallas if they once again have to turn to their back up in 2009. If that is the best they can do, then they should sign him and send Brad on his way. I just hope they can do better and I will be hoping that Romo doesn't have to miss time.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see John Beck here though. I can easily envision Miami wanting to get rid of him, and I can see Dallas wanting to get something out of Anthony Henry instead of just cutting him (and I think his salary will be too high for being a role player here).

So that makes some sense to me. In that scenario, I could see Brooks Bollinger coming back as the #3 QB.
 

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Alexander;2620567 said:
Cowboys to pursue Simms?
Chris Simms | Titans | Interested: Cowboys? Bears?
Tim McMahon of the Dallas Morning News is hip to Jerry Jones' game. Although Jones has said the Dallas Cowboys won't be looking to make a big impact by signing big name free agents this offseason, he's compiled a list of potential candidates to make the move to Dallas, and Chris Simms is one of the key players on it.

I'm always curious about things like this. The headline asks a question but the article seems to provide an answer. The second sentence here implies (strongly implies) that Mr. McMahon has seen Jerry's list. Simms either is a target or he isn't. Is this sloppy journalism or reporting a leak?
 

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joseephuss;2620668 said:
What form are you talking about? The Bucs were not going to the playoffs the year Simms got injured. He started the first 3 games that year(2006) and the Bucs lost all 3. He got hurt showing toughness to get that extra yard, but he was playing terribly that year. His QB rating was 46.3. He passed for 1 TD and 7 INTs and completed only 54.7%. Those were his worst stats of his then 4 year career.

I don't hate Simms. Never have. I think he got treated unfairly by Longhorns fans while in college. Still I just don't think he is a good NFL QB. Right now he is better than Brad Johnson. That just may not be good enough for Dallas if they once again have to turn to their back up in 2009. If that is the best they can do, then they should sign him and send Brad on his way. I just hope they can do better and I will be hoping that Romo doesn't have to miss time.

2005 he started the season off as the TB QB they were 6-4 and he had a rating of 81.4 and was hittig 61% of his passes. I'm not looking for Simms to be the starting QB but as a backup yes I think he can do the job
 

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I think Simms will bring it up a notch and force the offense to become more diverse. He is not a star, and might never be, but the kid has a decent game and the potential to be really good.
 

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JIMMYBUFFETT;2620669 said:
Not a huge Simms fan , but I'd take him over Bollinger and Johnson every day of the week and twice on Tuesday !
Why Tuesday?
 

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If the Cowboys felt Chris Simms was a solid enough replacement for Johnson to settle in as a strong backup QB here they would have made the trade last year.

I'd be all for adding Simms provided he is no higher than 2.5 on the chart. We need to add someone proven who we can turn to if Romo gets banged up again.

I don't suspect Bollinger answers that question either.
 

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ddh33;2620673 said:
I'd be fine with Chris Simms. He's a big upgrade from what is here...

But I'm betting Dallas can't get him.

I've read a lot of things about the Bears really liking him. If you were a young QB who had ambitions on starting again, where do you think you are most likely to get a starting gig?

The Bears could have had him. So could Dallas or anyone else.

Instead he went to Tennessee, was even cut once and ended up being their third QB.

I don't believe the demand is going to be high, nor do I feel he's in any position to pick and choose where he goes to "start". He's got to prove himself all over again. Gruden smeared him pretty bad so he's got to show someone he can do the job.
 

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Uh,, excuse me,, but if a backup QB could turn into Romo if Romo got hurt,, wouldn't that said backup be somebody else's starter???

Simms would be a good upgrade over what we have and a stronger arm than Romo and is fairly mobile... If Romo went down, we wouldn't have to change the offense for Simms. Deep pass would still be an option.
 

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I'd rather they do something in the draft, but I suspected they'd target an inexpensive vet that was still pretty young.

Heck I'd still burn a 6th or 7th rounder on a QB. Maybe they stumble upon another Romo.
 

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Simms would be an upgrade over Johnson and Simms I like slightly more than Beck because I've seen that Simms can play a bit at this level and would be able to do just fine in a backup role.

Beck I haven't seen enough of to believe he could get the job done if need be and like Hos pointed out it would also cost us something in a trade to get Beck where Simms wouldn't cost us any players or picks.
 

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joseephuss;2620668 said:
What form are you talking about? The Bucs were not going to the playoffs the year Simms got injured. He started the first 3 games that year(2006) and the Bucs lost all 3. He got hurt showing toughness to get that extra yard, but he was playing terribly that year. His QB rating was 46.3. He passed for 1 TD and 7 INTs and completed only 54.7%. Those were his worst stats of his then 4 year career.

I don't hate Simms. Never have. I think he got treated unfairly by Longhorns fans while in college. Still I just don't think he is a good NFL QB. Right now he is better than Brad Johnson. That just may not be good enough for Dallas if they once again have to turn to their back up in 2009. If that is the best they can do, then they should sign him and send Brad on his way. I just hope they can do better and I will be hoping that Romo doesn't have to miss time.

My error. It was 2005 he led them to the playoffs. In 2006, he started off rough.


In 2005, Simms was slated on the depth chart as the backup quarterback, behind Griese and ahead of former Cleveland Browns starting quarterback Luke McCown. Simms got his first snap of the season after Miami Dolphins linebacker Zach Thomas was pushed onto Griese's leg with several minutes left in the game on October 16, 2005. Despite the injury, the Buccaneers prevailed 27-13 in the game in which Griese was lost for the season. Simms performed well, completing 6 of 10 passes for 69 yards.[7] Simms got his first start of the season the following week against a weak San Francisco 49ers squad. While Simms had decent numbers (21-34, 264yds, 1TD, 2INT), his performance was considered poor, as there were many times when he underthrew his receivers, missed open receivers, or incorrectly read the defensive coverage. Simms followed up this performance with about the same performance (25-42, 259, 1TD, 2INT) against the division rival Carolina Panthers, who were considered a much better team than San Francisco. Since these two losses however, Simms has performed better than expected and has a knack for late-game heroics. He led fourth-quarter charges against fellow division rival Atlanta twice, as well as the Washington Commanders. The Commander game was his best performance of the year as Simms threw for 3 scores as the Buccaneers won 36-35 in a remarkable game. Simms had a much more impressive performance in the rematch against Carolina on the road. The two losses in this stretch were against the defending Super Bowl Champion New England Patriots, and the Chicago Bears, who were ranked #1 in the league in total defense, and in both of these games, Simms did not throw any interceptions, and was sacked a combined 11 times. He even led Tampa Bay to another fourth-quarter comeback against the Bears but a 29-yard field goal attempt floated wide right giving the Bears a 13-10 victory.[8]
Simms led the Buccaneers to their first playoff berth since their Super Bowl victory in the 2002. In the rematch vs. the Commanders Simms led Tampa Bay back again from a 17–3 halftime deficit. With the score at 17–10 late in the fourth quarter, Simms hit Edell Shepherd on an apparent 35-yard TD strike. However, Shepherd failed to maintain possession as he hit the ground. Tampa Bay lost 17–10 in a game where Washington gained only 120 yards of offense, the lowest total for a playoff winner in NFL history.[9]
Chris Simms had played well at the end of the 2005 season, and thus came into the 2006 season with high expectations around him. However, for no particular obvious reason, Simms's play in the first two weeks was abysmal. In back-to-back games against the Baltimore Ravens and Atlanta Falcons, Simms posted up 45 completions on 82 attempts for 446 yards, but had zero touchdowns and six interceptions. He continued to have several of his passes tipped by defensive linemen. Largely due to his inexplicably poor play, the Bucs scored a mere 3 points in two games.
Simms suffered a season-ending injury in Game 3 of the 2006 schedule. On Sunday, September 24, he was taken off the field after taking hard hits from the Carolina Panthers defense. Simms returned to the game and even led a successful scoring drive, but remained in physical distress and was taken to a nearby hospital after the game. Tests revealed a ruptured spleen, and Simms immediately underwent emergency surgery. In the aftermath, Simms said he lost five pints of blood before the operation and conceded that another 45 minutes without treatment could have been fatal. Though not proven, it has been suggested that the injury was caused by an illegal hit from Al Wallace who was later fined by the NFL.[10] Simms has become a spokesman in the Tampa area for blood donations.[11] The injury ended Simms's season. Playing on a one-year/$2.1 million contract signed before the season, Simms was eligible for free agency for 2007 and was expected to be in demand.
On December 27, 2006, Simms announced that he had signed a two-year extension to remain with the Buccaneers with the expectation that he would start. However, due to complications from his recovery and the performance of Jeff Garcia in mini-camp, Simms was expected to serve as a backup to Garcia.[12] On October 9, Simms was placed on Injured Reserve for the rest of the season.[13] The Bucs were expected to keep Simms on the roster for mini camp as their fifth quarterback.
Over the weekend of the 2008 NFL Draft, the Buccaneers reportedly received many trade offers for Simms, but the team declined them all.[citation needed] However, the Buccaneers denied that these trade offers ever existed.[citation needed] Simms' relationship with head coach Jon Gruden worsened significantly during this period, due to how Gruden treated Simms during his recovery from spleen injury. He has even said that "The relationship between me and coach Gruden, it’s broken," Simms said. "And I don’t see any way it’s going to get better." Simms also said that he will never forgive Gruden, although he still respects the Buccaneers as an organization.[14]
 

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Wrangler87;2620579 said:
Simms is an upgrade.

As long as he has returned to the form he was in when he got injured. He was well on his way to leading the Bucs to the playoffs that year.

He got hurt trying to get that extra yard.

I will never understand the dislike for this guy. He has never done anything to be disliked.

At the Senior Bowl practices before the draft, the guy stood and signed autographs and talked to fans and kids in actual conversations. Like the guy really gave a crap. In contrast to the other players there who were often polite, but in a hurry to get out of there.

Yet, for some reason, people hate on Simms for no reason at all.

I understand the dislike, either.
He's relatively young, smart, good mechanics and has has a good bloodline.
I look at Johnson and i look at Simms, and it's not contest.
Bring in Simms for a look-see.
 
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