Cowboys Top 5 All Time List

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He could definitely run sweeps, you saw some on the clip. He runs upright and tippy toed? LOL So what? He ran over you tipping toeing and ran by you upright? Who cares?

Whatever you want to say Walker was, the guy was a much better RB then Zeke no doubt. Better pass catcher, could return kicks, faster, quicker, ran over people and around people better. There isnt ONE thing I can say Zeke did better.

Emmitt simply was the best!!

Again, Emmitt makes Zeke look like a turd and you could look at stats and they are also similar in the beginning.

Emmitt - Tremendously instinctive with vision, patience, stop-restart change of direction, footwork. lower body/leg power and balance,
- Difficult to knock off his feet.
- Extraordinary durability and toughness. Much more inside/between the tackles runner but average running outside and sweep runs.
- average receiving skill & threat, dump off valve pass catcher. Terrific Blitz blocker. As with most great backs, a terrific knack and nose for the goal line.

I see now why you selectively cut out part of the quote from Walls. It was clear he had a beef with Walker. Walls saw Walker as the end of Dorsette who he loved and feels he ran Landry out of town. LOL

Which makes sense why he would say some BS about him.

Looks like your big evidence just got busted wide open. LOL

Back to the drawing board eh?

Dorsett, arguably the Cowboys' best running back until Smith
arrived in Dallas, was traded to the Broncos in 1988. "Going
with Herschel was the beginning of the end for [coach] Tom
Landry," says Walls. "It wasn't that anyone had anything
personal against Herschel, " And but our chemistry was broken up.
that was only part of the problem, according to Walls.

LOL ... yet again , i knew it .you're gonna re-route what placed in front of you and . now it's about point the finger at Everson because he spoke out vs Walker.
thats just gonna be you ..

https://vault.si.com/vault/1983/07/11/generally-it-was-a-one-man-show

" Walker has his doubts about that. "For me, the split backfield was the most difficult adjustment at first," he said. "I've always run out of the I, and it's a different kind of running. I'd use my vision to find openings. In a split backfield, you're in a three-point stance and can't see the defense. You have to hit up in there quick, run on instinct, and that's difficult for me.
All the great runners are instinct runners. I'm not."

 

[quickccc]

He could definitely run sweeps, you saw some on the clip. He runs upright and tippy toed? LOL So what? He ran over you tipping toeing and ran by you upright? Who cares?

Whatever you want to say Walker was, the guy was a much better RB then Zeke no doubt. Better pass catcher, could return kicks, faster, quicker, ran over people and around people better. There isnt ONE thing I can say Zeke did better.

Emmitt simply was the best!!

Again, Emmitt makes Zeke look like a turd and you could look at stats and they are also similar in the beginning.

Emmitt - Tremendously instinctive with vision, patience, stop-restart change of direction and footwork. lower body/leg power and balance,
- Bob- weave elusiveness style thru tough, tight traffic
- Difficult to knock off his feet.
- Extraordinary durability, longevity and toughness. Separate shoulder game vs NYG is classic.
- At his best, most effective inside/between the tackles runner but average running outside and sweep runs.
- Average receiving skill & threat, purely dump off valve pass catcher.
- Terrific Blitz blocker.
- As with most great backs, a terrific knack and nose for the goal line.

Tony Dorsett - When you say name of Dorsett, you immediately think "speed " and home run ability.
- Great burst in-out of holes, and legendary instant acceleration
- Tony had great run instincts and vision to sense developing lanes and opens as well as the maneuverability to create on the run.
- Terrific cut back runner and make quick RB screen passes into instant big plays and homerun TDs.
- Finesse oriented runner who was an exceptional edge runner and sweep runner.
- Though he wasn't a powerful lower leg tackle breaker, and easy to knock off his feet- too many shoestring tackles, imo
he still possessed a nose and knack for goal line TDs.
- Only very average blitz blocker.
- Durable for most part of his career. Gamer. But limiting his load carries very likely extended his career.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Emmitt - Tremendously instinctive with vision, patience, stop-restart change of direction, footwork. lower body/leg power and balance,
- Difficult to knock off his feet.
- Extraordinary durability and toughness. Much more inside/between the tackles runner but average running outside and sweep runs.
- average receiving skill & threat, dump off valve pass catcher. Terrific Blitz blocker. As with most great backs, a terrific knack and nose for the goal line.



LOL ... yet again , i knew it .you're gonna re-route what placed in front of you and . now it's about point the finger at Everson because he spoke out vs Walker.
thats just gonna be you ..

https://vault.si.com/vault/1983/07/11/generally-it-was-a-one-man-show

" Walker has his doubts about that. "For me, the split backfield was the most difficult adjustment at first," he said. "I've always run out of the I, and it's a different kind of running. I'd use my vision to find openings. In a split backfield, you're in a three-point stance and can't see the defense. You have to hit up in there quick, run on instinct, and that's difficult for me.
All the great runners are instinct runners. I'm not."

Why are you talking about Emmitt now? Rerouting?

Not sure your angle here.

Walker is better than Zeke.

Yet here you keep talking about Dorsett and Emmitt.

Let me know when you find someone that thinks Zeke is better than Walker as a RB.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Emmitt - Tremendously instinctive with vision, patience, stop-restart change of direction, footwork. lower body/leg power and balance,
- Difficult to knock off his feet.
- Extraordinary durability and toughness. Much more inside/between the tackles runner but average running outside and sweep runs.
- average receiving skill & threat, dump off valve pass catcher. Terrific Blitz blocker. As with most great backs, a terrific knack and nose for the goal line.



LOL ... yet again , i knew it .you're gonna re-route what placed in front of you and . now it's about point the finger at Everson because he spoke out vs Walker.
thats just gonna be you ..

https://vault.si.com/vault/1983/07/11/generally-it-was-a-one-man-show

" Walker has his doubts about that. "For me, the split backfield was the most difficult adjustment at first," he said. "I've always run out of the I, and it's a different kind of running. I'd use my vision to find openings. In a split backfield, you're in a three-point stance and can't see the defense. You have to hit up in there quick, run on instinct, and that's difficult for me.
All the great runners are instinct runners. I'm not."

Notice Zeke is nowhere to be found here.

Heck, Walker put up similar numbers to Zeke in his prime. And this was Walker 7 years into his playing career and played for a terrible Cowboys team.

You think Zeke will have any 2000 yards season going forward? OUCH!!!




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Notice Zeke is nowhere to be found here.

Heck, Walker put up similar numbers to Zeke in his prime. And this was Walker 7 years into his playing career and played for a terrible Cowboys team.

You think Zeke will have any 2000 yards season going forward? OUCH!!!




25 Greatest Running Backs in NFL History - AthlonSports.com | Expert Predictions, Picks, and Previews

Patience, Grasshopper ..all in good time, i do have a life after all too.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Patience, Grasshopper ..all in good time, i do have a life after all too.

So I take it you have given up on the Zeke nonsense?

Now your onto Emmitt and Dorsett?

Ive already stated several times Emmitt is the best and my favorite football player of all time.

Dorsett or Walker is a close one for me. Similar styles with the speed.

Walker on those 70's Cowboys teams with Staubach would have been incredible.

 

[quickccc]

So I take it you have given up on the Zeke nonsense?

Now your onto Emmitt and Dorsett?

Ive already stated several times Emmitt is the best and my favorite football player of all time.

Dorsett or Walker is a close one for me. Similar styles with the speed.

Walker on those 70's Cowboys teams with Staubach would have been incredible.

Both are Fast ... that's where the comparisons between the two end, imo .

The two players were totally different styles ..
- Dorsett did not have the high, upright form Herschel did, .he ran with a lower shoulder pad level than Walker
- Dorsett was more fluid, open-field and in space elusive, agile and instinctive than Walker.
- Dorsett was more of a naturally, fluid edge/outside runner than Herschel
- Walker was much bigger and much more straight head on powerful than Dorsett.
- Herschel had the better breaking tackle power and strength than Dorsett.
- Tony said he never had any interest in track n field, but he was well known as being one of very fastest players in NFL of his era,
much like Walker in a str8 line was one of the very fastest players of his own NFL era.

 

[quickccc]

Why are you talking about Emmitt now? Rerouting?

Not sure your angle here.

Walker is better than Zeke.

Yet here you keep talking about Dorsett and Emmitt.

Let me know when you find someone that thinks Zeke is better than Walker as a RB.

Errr....News flash: Emmitt, Dorsett and Walker are three of MY top five all time. Cowboys RBs
That's why i am talking about them.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Errr....News flash: Emmitt, Dorsett and Walker are three of MY top five all time. Cowboys RBs
That's why i am talking about them.

Nothing to do with our argument buddy. At this point you are talking to yourself.

My issue was Zeke.

 

[quickccc]

Nothing to do with our argument buddy. At this point you are talking to yourself.

My issue was Zeke.

i don't considering it arguing.... i consider it enlightening ....

and it's no secret here ... you're gonna ALWAYS have this Zeke-hate agenda.
unfortunately nuthin is gonna change that ...

 

[CowboyRoy]

i don't considering it arguing.... i consider it enlightening ....

and it's no secret here ... you're gonna ALWAYS have this Zeke-hate agenda.
unfortunately nuthin is gonna change that ...

I was fully applauding Zeke the first half of last year. I have no issues with averaging 5.5 ypc and killing it. But we do have to recognize that Pollard was leading the NFL at 6.8 ypc during that time.

And then certainly I can always point back to Zeke's salary.

I just dont think Zeke is all that buddy. And as the Oline as receded, Zeke's ability to dominate has receded along with it. So I may have hate for Zeke, but its justified and I have been sadly accurate in his demise and abilities.

Ironically I do think Zeke and Pollard are somewhat of a perfect 1/2 punch. But its not at 80% zeke and 20% pollard.

You give me 50/50 hot hand type touches and each guy is making under 5 million per year and Im way into it. Love it actually.

 

[quickccc]

- i can understand the critique of Zeke Elliott, as he's not and no longer the player he was per 2016, ..not the home run hitter he was
..not the fear factor he was coming into the league in 2016,

- But to resort to dip to the name calling such as Rex Ryan- like terms of 'turds', etc. ..that's clearly sounds personal vs Zeke.
Sadly i guess it's gonna be fans, critics like that.

- and i know i've long explained why i had my theory as to why i believe he's declined into more of a mere lumberer at this point.
at his returned healthy state, i think he'll be more of a Mark Ingram like runner and threat than Adrian Peterson as he was in 2016.
An Ingram type is not warranted of that kind of contract, imo.

- What further concerns me is the working mind of Kellen Moore, who i believe is far more operative with the WRs and TEs than
he is with the RBs. He's fairly ordinary and bland when it comes to RBs, and even if something does manage to work
he for whatever reason, .stops it and never comes back to it .... but the KM is another matter for the very near future.

I am Lion-O .. here me roar ..!!

 

[KJJ]

I don’t like rankings because everyone has an opinion and they all differ. I like the odds of winning a lottery better than two fans coming up with the same rankings for all those players.

 

[quickccc]

There was immense pressure on Switzer who was taking over Jimmy Johnson before the 1994 season. Switzer really was in a no-win situation w/the job. If he lost, he was bashed, but if he won, all the credit still would go to Johnson.
Be nice. Everyone has their own opinion. And I do agree w/yours. 8-8 Garrett should have been let go in his 5th season. The bromance lasted way too long!

- Swiss made enemies with the one guy he could not afford to do so. And it got so intense that a frustrated Aikman had difficulties keeping it from fellow teammates, coaches
and certain media sorts. And what was Swizz's forte with the coaches ? Offense, Defense ? A leader of men ?
Same coach that would cut off practices if players were too hung over from partying ? Or arrested at an airport ? etc..etc.

- Garrett lasted here so long as Jerry thought he was a young genius. The Next great Sean Payton 2.0.
Plus Jerry knew the player Garrett, as well as his brother (Judd, TE coach) ..and longtime scout and dad Jim Garrett.
So it maybe like it was family seed-planted into Jerry's world.

- Jerry really thought and sold himself that Jason was one of the more brilliant offensive minds in all of NFL football.
And some may rebuttal this, but i believe Stephen became more influential in Cowboys football operations that caused the Jones to
make up their mind and decision to final dismiss Jason, despite reports that Garrett was really trying to sell them that he needed one
more plan, and chance to place this team over the hump.

An entire decade.
And now its' down to Mike McCarthy, who definitely won't get 10 years to try the over the hump obstacle.

 

[McKDaddy]

Oddly i don't remember Hershel returning to the Cowboys to finish out his NFL career.

Well, to be honest, I had forgotten it as well

 

[TwentyOne]

Can you list and rank Best/Favorite Cowboys Top 5 All Time players at their positions ?

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/lineups.htm

:Here's a Look at My Cowboys List/ Top 5 Player-Position Rankings:

WRs
1 Michael Irvin
2 Bob Hayes
3 Drew Pearson
4 Terrell Owens
5 Dez Bryant

I can understand all the negativity TO gets from fans. But this is not the "5 most popular players" list. It is the TOP players list.

So at least be serious about it. TO is the best WR by far that played for us. Heck he may be the second best WR to ever play the game.

 

[OmerV]

I can understand all the negativity TO gets from fans. But this is not the "5 most popular players" list. It is the TOP players list.

So at least be serious about it. TO is the best WR by far that played for us. Heck he may be the second best WR to ever play the game.

How do you define "TOP" though?

TO was only with Dallas 3 years, and even though they were high stat years, does that make him more "TOP" as a Cowboy than Bob Hayes, for example, who also had big statistical years and played for the Cowboys 10 years, and who's speed caused NFL coaches to create the zone defense? Or Michael Irvin, who also had big statistical years, played his entire 12 year career in Dallas, and was a key player that helped them win 3 Super Bowls?

And remember, even if one believes TO is the 2nd best WR to play the game, on a top list of Cowboys he only gets credit for his years as a Cowboy.

 

[TwentyOne]

And remember, even if one believes TO is the 2nd best WR to play the game, on a top list of Cowboys he only gets credit for his years as a Cowboy.

Where did you got this definition from ?

 

[OmerV]

er's

Where did you got this definition from ?

It's common sense. You don't get to be a top Cowboy based on performing well for the 49ers or Eagles. That would be like expecting my employer to recognize my contributions to the company based on what I did for another company years earlier.

Suppose TO had only averaged 700 yards and 6 TD's per year in Dallas. Would you still consider him a top Cowboy because career with other teams was so good? Do we consider Lance Alworth among the top Cowboys in the history of the team? Zach Thomas? Ditka? Jackie Smith? Of course not. That's because we don't count what they did with other teams.

 

[TwentyOne]

It's common sense.

So what you actually want to say its your opinion. I respect your opinion. But mine is different.

And of course will the salary from your employer depend on the accolades you earned somewhere else.