Cowboys Training Methods, Injuries, Prevention

[Jinxx13x]

Orlando Scandricks Hamstring Problems are personally bringing back painful memories of Miles Austin's Days. Scandricks issues at the moment are not as severe as miles and hopefully will not become as serious, but it made me think if the cowboys are getting the correct people in place to put our athletes in the best possible position to avoid injuries. Cowboys always seem to me to be one of the most injured teams in the league ( i would say usually in the top 15 each year to be fair )

To me this is a major problem and needs to be addressed. I realize Jerry just built a state of the art facility but it takes more then that ! you need the right people to train our athletes better.

Demarcus Ware signs with Denver and this article comes out soon after http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...fferent-deal-than-what-i-did-with-the-cowboys --- Doesn't this make anyone else at least question are we doing enough to prevent injuries?, are we using outdated methods?, do we need to change our strategy? I would say what could it hurt ! What we are doing has not put us in the bottom half of injuries out of 32 teams so maybe it is time for a change!

I started searching the internet trying to find out more about NFL training methods and different approaches or philosophies and i found all sorts of things like Hot Yoga, Kettleball Training, MMA Training, Etc. So since i do not know exactly what the Cowboys do i figure maybe the question is warranted are we using some of these new techniques ? Are we using Cutting Edge Training Methods to maximize our athletes abilities based on the last few years i would question it. I know the facilities are cutting edge.

Interestingly though i came across a Youtube Video about a guy named Louie Simmons. I am no expert in this field by any means BUT he seems to know what he is talking about ! Here is a video from him-

I watched this one and several other of his videos about building speed, strength and overall better techniques to prevent injuries. I have heard him mention the Cowboys in this video and a couple other teams but not sure how much the cowboys implemented his stuff. Seriously type in this guys name and check out a few videos on this guy you will not be disappointed. He will get you questioning if teams are doing things right ! I guess all i am saying is maybe it is time to re-evaluate or training methods based on my limited knowledge in this area i would love to see the cowboys hit this guy up and get ahead of the preventive injury curve. Maybe just Maybe it is time to think outside the box.

 

[Doomsday101]

You do know Ware is injured and is out for a few weeks now right?

Injuries happen and little you can do to avoid them. Hamstrings are not just a Cowboys thing and when it comes to torn ligament they happen across the league same with broken bones. I think you can do so much to help prevent but in the end it is a violent game and it takes a toll on the human body.

 

[Jinxx13x]

You do know Ware is injured and is out for a few weeks now right?

Injuries happen and little you can do to avoid them. Hamstrings are not just a Cowboys thing and when it comes to torn ligament they happen across the league same with broken bones. I think you can do so much to help prevent but in the end it is a violent game and it takes a toll on the human body.

Ware broke a bone it happens does that not mean we shouldn't look for better ways to prevent injuries? Why is it that certain teams always seem to have less injuries LUCK ? Maybe what they are doing is better? It's foolish not to at least look for better ways ! businesses always look for better ways. According to this guy Louie hamstrings injuries can be reduced if other certain areas are trained better. Why would we not explore other options if it keeps our starting players on the field more or makes them stronger, faster, and overall superior athletes. To not strive to be better or improve and say injuries happen is not an effective training method.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ware broke a bone it happens does that not mean we shouldn't look for better ways to prevent injuries? Why is it that certain teams always seem to have less injuries LUCK ? Maybe what they are doing is better? It's foolish not to at least look for better ways ! businesses always look for better ways. According to this guy Louie hamstrings injuries can be reduced if other certain areas are trained better. Why would we not explore other options if it keeps our starting players on the field more or makes them stronger, faster, and overall superior athletes. To not strive to be better or improve and say injuries happen is not an effective training method.

I think all teams including the Cowboys look for better ways to prevent injuries. Scandrick is having problems with hamstring and a lot of that has to do with coming a major knee injury.

You get right to it the biggest problem right now is not physical training it is mental midgets who can't seem to stay off drugs that has hurt this team as we have seen McClain, D Law and Gregory missing because of their own stupidity.

Saying injuries happen may not be an effective training method but it is the reality that is football at all levels injuries will happen and there is nothing that can be done. You get in a pile and are getting your legs twisted and bent in the wrong direction something has to give, the human knee is not built to move backwards. I think these training staffs around the league know their jobs and do what they can but this game again takes a major toll on the body.

I think some of it is luck and I think some of it is tolerance of pain, Jason Witten has played 14 years yet has missed a total of 1 game

 

[bark]

I guess the Vikings need some new training techniques and the Bears as well. Injuries seem to be up league wide in the past few years.
Even the almighty patriots can't ever seem to the gronk ready and Wes welker had problems staying on the field during his time there.
The are freakishly big and fast athletes running head on into other freakishly big athletes. Somethings gotta give

 

[Plankton]

The Cowboys were trend setters in this field at one time.

http://www.bobwardsportscience.com/home.html

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

You do know Ware is injured and is out for a few weeks now right?

Injuries happen and little you can do to avoid them. Hamstrings are not just a Cowboys thing and when it comes to torn ligament they happen across the league same with broken bones. I think you can do so much to help prevent but in the end it is a violent game and it takes a toll on the human body.

But there have been advancements in injury prevenation (which isn't really a thing...you can't really prevent injuries. But stretching and strengthening the right way can reduce the chance), and some coaching staffs will simply ignore it.

I'm a Manchester United fan, and there are players on that team that can't stay healthy for more than a few games for years on end, go to another team, and never miss a game. Could be luck, but I think there's more to it.

 

[Doomsday101]

But there have been advancements in injury prevenation (which isn't really a thing...you can't really prevent injuries. But stretching and strengthening the right way can reduce the chance), and some coaching staffs will simply ignore it.

I'm a Manchester United fan, and there are players on that team that can't stay healthy for more than a few games for years on end, go to another team, and never miss a game. Could be luck, but I think there's more to it.

Yes there have been advancement but there is not one technique that prevents certain injuries and Cowboys are not the only team that deals with hamstrings or fractures. This is going to happen when you have large men moving at high rates of speed colliding with one another. One study was done and compares these hits to being in a car crash. Right now I don't see a lot of injuries on this team I see some stupid players who are missing time but not due to injury.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Ahhh the old training & conditioning thread. Never gets old.

 

[JDSmith]

Are we using Cutting Edge Training Methods to maximize our athletes abilities based on the last few years i would question it. I know the facilities are cutting edge.

Interestingly though i came across a Youtube Video about a guy named Louie Simmons. I am no expert in this field by any means BUT he seems to know what he is talking about ! Here is a video from him-

I guarantee that you will not find a single guy affiliated with any NFL team as a strength and conditioning coach who isn't intimately familiar with Louie Simmons and his training methods. While it's entirely possible that teams are not putting their maximum effort into strength and conditioning, including staying up to day with the most current methods, I'd say it's also extremely unlikely. These teams invest millions into getting their guys healthy and strong, and if there is a method that works they're going to use it.

And, unless I'm mis-remembering, a lot of Louie's guys (at least in power lifting) are also big juicers. That helps the muscles to stay strong as well, although it doesn't help the tendons and ligaments. But you have growth hormone for that kind of stuff. Unfortunately, the NFL frowns on some of Louie's chemical recovery methods. But as I said, I may be remembering wrong - it's been a few years.

 

[Echo9]

Orlando Scandricks Hamstring Problems are personally bringing back painful memories of Miles Austin's Days. Scandricks issues at the moment are not as severe as miles and hopefully will not become as serious, but it made me think if the cowboys are getting the correct people in place to put our athletes in the best possible position to avoid injuries. Cowboys always seem to me to be one of the most injured teams in the league ( i would say usually in the top 15 each year to be fair )

To me this is a major problem and needs to be addressed. I realize Jerry just built a state of the art facility but it takes more then that ! you need the right people to train our athletes better.

Demarcus Ware signs with Denver and this article comes out soon after http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...fferent-deal-than-what-i-did-with-the-cowboys --- Doesn't this make anyone else at least question are we doing enough to prevent injuries?, are we using outdated methods?, do we need to change our strategy? I would say what could it hurt ! What we are doing has not put us in the bottom half of injuries out of 32 teams so maybe it is time for a change!

I started searching the internet trying to find out more about NFL training methods and different approaches or philosophies and i found all sorts of things like Hot Yoga, Kettleball Training, MMA Training, Etc. So since i do not know exactly what the Cowboys do i figure maybe the question is warranted are we using some of these new techniques ? Are we using Cutting Edge Training Methods to maximize our athletes abilities based on the last few years i would question it. I know the facilities are cutting edge.

Interestingly though i came across a Youtube Video about a guy named Louie Simmons. I am no expert in this field by any means BUT he seems to know what he is talking about ! Here is a video from him-

I watched this one and several other of his videos about building speed, strength and overall better techniques to prevent injuries. I have heard him mention the Cowboys in this video and a couple other teams but not sure how much the cowboys implemented his stuff. Seriously type in this guys name and check out a few videos on this guy you will not be disappointed. He will get you questioning if teams are doing things right ! I guess all i am saying is maybe it is time to re-evaluate or training methods based on my limited knowledge in this area i would love to see the cowboys hit this guy up and get ahead of the preventive injury curve. Maybe just Maybe it is time to think outside the box.

I work for a company in the physical rehab field. I want to pass this over to them, but don't want to be a shill.

OScan! Use this!

http://www.biodex.com/physical-medi...tem-4-pro/injury-risk-management-–-hamstrings

 

[LocimusPrime]

The best way to prevent injuries is to build strength and muscle whipe maintaining your flexibility
- captain obvious

Jk but not really. Ive always been cutious and concerned about the cowboys off season and in season strength and conditioning programs. Everytime i look at the linebackers they look undefined and smallish. No rip and muscle density. Id want all my linebackers benching 450-550 unassisted and repoing 225 35-50x pow pow pow. Incline w 150-200 lb dumbells. So you get a lil extra everytime you hit that rb. But it all starts w the head coach and hes been doing yoga and pilates in Frisco.

 

[JDSmith]

The best way to prevent injuries is to build strength and muscle whipe maintaining your flexibility
- captain obvious

Jk but not really. Ive always been cutious and concerned about the cowboys off season and in season strength and conditioning programs. Everytime i look at the linebackers they look undefined and smallish. No rip and muscle density.

Being ripped is pointless for a LB. Mostly it would just lead to more injuries. I'm not saying they should be fat, but by no means would being ripped help.

 

[haleyrules]

It seems to me that too much muscle slows athletes down. Do the Çowboys really have more injuries than other clubs or does it seem that way because we follow them so closely?

 

[haleyrules]

I had an old friend who was a pro fighter. Thats what he would say...dont want too much muscle..it slows me down and l can't hit as hard or move as well. This boy wasn't fat of course but he did a lot of running and basic exercises like push up..sit ups etc..nothing too fancy and never used any steriods or drugs. He was tremendously strong and had stamina and endurance, could fight or work endless hours and never had any serious injuries...well excluding head trama.

 

[Maxmadden]

Gee, with the exception of old man Romo I would think we were pretty healthy. I'm gonna sit around and over analyze things a bit more. I must be missing something.

 

[Jinxx13x]

Ahhh the old training & conditioning thread. Never gets old.

Lol I doubt their is a new thread that can be created that hasn't been done before

 

[Jinxx13x]

I guarantee that you will not find a single guy affiliated with any NFL team as a strength and conditioning coach who isn't intimately familiar with Louie Simmons and his training methods. While it's entirely possible that teams are not putting their maximum effort into strength and conditioning, including staying up to day with the most current methods, I'd say it's also extremely unlikely. These teams invest millions into getting their guys healthy and strong, and if there is a method that works they're going to use it.

And, unless I'm mis-remembering, a lot of Louie's guys (at least in power lifting) are also big juicers. That helps the muscles to stay strong as well, although it doesn't help the tendons and ligaments. But you have growth hormone for that kind of stuff. Unfortunately, the NFL frowns on some of Louie's chemical recovery methods. But as I said, I may be remembering wrong - it's been a few years.

I never heard of Louie before so I don't know his tendencies but just thought his ideas were pretty good

 

[JDSmith]

I never heard of Louie before so I don't know his tendencies but just thought his ideas were pretty good

They've been at it for a long time. I think he's in Cleveland or some such place. But his gym is famous and the guys who came from there are also very well known. 531 had its birth there if I recall correctly. Westside Barbell is extremely well known in the power lifting community. I could swear his guys are all juiced to the gills though.

 

[conner01]

You do know Ware is injured and is out for a few weeks now right?

Injuries happen and little you can do to avoid them. Hamstrings are not just a Cowboys thing and when it comes to torn ligament they happen across the league same with broken bones. I think you can do so much to help prevent but in the end it is a violent game and it takes a toll on the human body.

Pulls and strains maybe but Oscan hammy is probably more related to his previous injury than anything else. Most injuries are more about the game itself than conditioning