Cowboys Triplets vs Colts Triplets

[CrazyCowboy]

3 Super Bowl trophies is the heavy favorite in my book--and that is the book I am reading....hahaha

 

[SkinsFan26]

Cowboys Triplets + Cowboys O-line > Colts Triplets + Colts O-line

 

[SultanOfSix]

No. You don't get it. There is no such thing as the Colts' "Triplets."

 

[Eddie]

The Cowboys Triplets and the Colts Triplets aren't even in the same league.

The Cowboys 3 won 3 Super Bowls, played in 4 NFC title games ... earned numerous honors, and achieved what only one other team has been able to duplicate.

The Colts 3 haven't done squat.

 

[dbair1967]

the Colts players are alot more similar to the Chargers skills players (Fouts, Joiner, Winslow, Jefferson ,Muncie etc etc) of the late 70's/early 80's than the Cowboys trio ...lots of stats and pts and playoff chokes, short on big wins

in addition to being great talents, Aikman/Irvin/Emmitt were WINNERS...whatever "it" is/was, they had "it"...Manning, James, Harrison dont have "it" and never will...

David

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Cowboys Triplets > Colts Triplets

:laugh2:

I see you laughing but something tells me you dont know what that post means...

the ">" symbol is GREATER than... so the fact that the "alligator" mouth is facing the Cowboys means they were greater than the Colts on the right side of it.

Just wanted to help you out.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

It would be interesting to compare their actual stats in playoff games (aside from Super Bowl wins, of course). I'll bet you will see that the Cowboys triplets were markedly better than the Colts'. What made the Cowboys triplets great was that they elavated their collective game in hte playoffs, while the Colts' triplets game deflates significantly in playoff games.

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[Thomas82]

Don't even know why Colt fans want to or have the nerve to even want to compare The Triplets with their imitation. Our guys showed up to play in all major games & won--Manning's numbers against Aikman's in post season play are a joke cause the most important stat in the end is who helped their team to win the SB. AND Aikman has a lot more class then Manning & kept his cool in an environment where too many around him lost theirs. In SF game, Aikman stepped up; in Pittsburgh game, Manning fell off his horse.

I just want to add a couple more things:

When he retired, Troy Aikman had the NFL record for career postseason and career Super Bowl completion percentage, and Emmitt is the NFL's career postseason rushing leader. Also, the Colts trio benefited from the recent rule changes to promote more offense, while the Cowboys' offense had rules made up to keep them from dominating so much. I'm talking about the Michael Irvin rule, which was designed to keep him from getting easy separation from the cornerbacks. Even though Erik Williams wasn't a part of the Triplets, they still made up a rule for his aggressive play. They banned him from head-butting defensive linemen.

 

[StevenOtero]

Aikman>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Manning
Smith>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>James
Irvin, don't even compare him to Marvin. Thats so sad. Irvin by far. Same w/ Emmitt. OMGOSH how could you even think of comparing these 3 against the REAL TRIPLETS? Get over it.

 

[ghst187]

Irvin vs Harrison....is this really a debate? The runt vs the playmaker?
Emmitt vs Edge....NFL all time leading rusher vs mr zero highlight reel runs
Aikman vs Womanning...mr clutch field general vs mrs "I can't win a playoff game because my OL let me down and NE owns me"

are you kidding....none of the Colts guys could carry the jock of our triplets. I might think the Aikman-Womanning comparison would be closer except Aikman won all the big games against bitter rivals on the road in bad conditions, Payton can't beat the 6th seeds in the playoffs, AT HOME.
The fact that the triplet title is mentioned with the Colts is a flat out insult to the real triplets. Go win something....anything...even an AFC championship before you compare yourself to greatness.

 

[YN1SCOTT]

After Edgerrin James signed with the Cardinals, this was a hot topic being debated for a little while, by some of the media, and I definately had to hear a lot about it recently when I visited family in Indy, not long after the signing. I had an argument at work today with a life-long Colts fan about which trio was better between the Cowboys and Colts. There really is no argument and shouldn't be any comparison between them.

I would take the Cowboys Triplets any day. First off, those triplets won 3 Super Bowls and could have won more. The real difference is that the Cowboys would methodically march down the field on 10 play drives that would demoralize the other team, while the Colts run up and down the field. Both are unstoppable, but I feel that the Colts have been helped out slightly by the rule changes. With the Cowboys, Emmitt was the key to everything. Defenses couldn't stop him. They knew what was coming and STILL couldn't stop it. Aikman to Irvin was almost unfair in that situation. When it mattered the most you could always count on Michael Irvin to make that first down for you, or when you needed to milk the clock you could depend on Emmitt to get those tough yards. Now tell me you can say the same thing about the Colts triplets. I say the Original Triplets by a mile.

I just thought of an offense that would give the Colts a run for their money. This team would probably even beat them just because the league was more physical back then. The one offense that would rival the Colts instead of the Cowboys triplets is the 1995 Lions. They had the #1 offense that year. Scott Mitchell threw for over 4000 yards and more than 30 TDs, they had 2 receivers catch 100 passes and go over 1000 yards (Herman Moore 123 catches for 1686 yds & 14 TDs and Brett Perriman 108 catches for 1488 yds & 9TDs). They even had a 3rd receiver (Johnnie Morton) close in on 50 receptions and almost 600 yds. With all of this, Barry Sanders still managed to get enough touches to rush for 1500 yards and he scored 11 TDs. I think they would handle these Colts, especially since they had a better defense. If they went at it, the Lions probably wouldn't have to throw much because Barry Sanders would run circles around their defense. While the Colts could possibly put up decent numbers, the Lions defense is more capable of stopping the Colts than vice versa. For that reason, I don't think the Colts triplets even come close to the Cowboys.

One other thing I would like to hit on is, I understand people have their opinions, but I have to STRONGLY disagree with all the people (fans & media) who picked Peyton Manning at quarterback over Troy Aikman. First off, Troy Aikman got screwed out of a spot on the 1990s All-Decade Team. He was the winningest QB of ANY decade. One thing people don't consider about Troy Aikman is that he hardly ever got rattled during the playoffs. He rarely threw costly interceptions and he got the first downs when he needed to. (At one point he had the NFL record for career post-season completion percentage). Peyton Manning, like Brett Favre, throw a lot of interceptions, causing their teams to lose. It always seemed to me like Manning (even Favre sometimes), when the games had so much riding on them tends to lose his cool and start throwing back-breaking interceptions or make some other costly mistakes. This is why I would take Troy Aikman over Peyton Manning, Steve Young, Dan Marino, or Brett Favre.

Just remember the 1992 NFC Championship, when NOBODY gave the Cowboys a chance against a powerful 49ers team that went 14-2 and had all those weapons on offense that included Steve Young at QB and they even had Joe Montana coming off the bench!! They even had a strong defense. Who would you rather have as your quarterback in a hostile environment like that? Even the weather was bad that day. That's the intangible that separates Troy from the other QBs with better numbers. Everybody wants to look at his numbers and say he was average compared to Favre or Marino. But Troy Aikman led his team to victory when it mattered most. He was at his best when the stakes were the highest. That's just something that can't be measured in yards per-attempt, completion %, or QB rating.

We'll never know how statistically great Troy Aikman could have been because the Cowboys' offense was not built around him the way the Colts' offense is around Peyton Manning. The Cowboys' philosophy was entirely different. With a dominating defense and dominating running game, they would build leads in the first half and early 3rd quarter, then spent the rest of the game grinding the ball with Emmitt Smith. Troy Aikman knew his role and cared more about winning than personal glory. Who knows what he could have been in an offense that has 3 1000+ yard receivers and a 1500 yard RB? Given an equal number of attempts, Troy Aikman would have as many passing yards as Brett Favre. Their YPA averages are virtually the same. Manning's is only 0.5 yards better than Aikman's.

Also, Troy Aikman was not fortunate enough to play in an era where the rules so heavily favored the offense in general and handcuffed the defense, and the passing game in particular. The 1990s was a physical game in which receivers had to fight for every catch. DBs were allowed much more lattitude back then and it was literally a physical altercation every time the ball was thrown. What was ruled "incidental contact" 10 years ago would be blatant pass interference today. In the end it all comes down to championships. The Cowboys triplets have 3 and the Colts triplets have 0.

Sorry for the real long post, it's just that I like to think before I post, get my facts straight, and be able to back it up.

You make some good points, but do we really need to get into this? Both are not unstoppable. as the last four to five seasons have shown. The Cowboys are most definitely better! The titles prove that

 

[firehawk350]

Irvin vs Harrison....is this really a debate? The runt vs the playmaker?
Emmitt vs Edge....NFL all time leading rusher vs mr zero highlight reel runs
Aikman vs Womanning...mr clutch field general vs mrs "I can't win a playoff game because my OL let me down and NE owns me"

are you kidding....none of the Colts guys could carry the jock of our triplets. I might think the Aikman-Womanning comparison would be closer except Aikman won all the big games against bitter rivals on the road in bad conditions, Payton can't beat the 6th seeds in the playoffs, AT HOME.
The fact that the triplet title is mentioned with the Colts is a flat out insult to the real triplets. Go win something....anything...even an AFC championship before you compare yourself to greatness.

I agree that the cowboys triplets were MUCH better then the colts triplets, I also want to point out a couple of things. Manning is still a young QB. Not having the field generalship isn't a horrible knock against this dude, he still has a lot of time to develop this. I think to compare him to a person who had a great career skews what he has done now. IMO, Manning has more pure talent, a better arm and can read defenses better but he still needs to improve his poise and decision-making. Can he win 3 super bowls? I think he can, but he hasn't. So in that, Aikman is better, but I think you wrote off Manning too quickly.
Otherwise, I agree with Marvin Harrison not being better and Emmitt being a much better RB then Edge.

 

[THUMPER]

To me the biggest difference between the two groups is Emmitt.

As good as Edgerrin James is he isn't Emmitt Smith. Emmitt was a much better inside runner, short-yardage runner, and was a lot more durable. James is a better receiver but not by as much as people would think. For some inexplicable reason we got away from throwing Emmitt the ball much after 1997 but early on he was a very effective receiver.

[edit]One last thing on Emmitt vs Edge: Emmitt was a better RB in the playoffs than during the regular season while Edge's stats drop significantly in the playoffs. Give me the "money" back any day.

Manning is a better QB than Aikman although Aikman was the most accurate passer I have ever seen (and I've seen an awful lot of QBs over the years). Manning has the total package at QB. We'll never know how good Troy could have been because he wasn't in a passing offense like Peyton is.

Although I like Harrison personally a lot more than I did Irvin I would have to give Michael the edge in that matchup. He was more physical and was a better downfield blocker although Harrison does a very good job for his size and is quite willing. I think Harrison is a better route runner and has better hands than Irvin so this one is close but I would give the edge to Michael in the clutch and for his leadership.

An interesting point on WRs blocking: I was watching the "Complete Cowboys History" again last night and noticed that on every one of Dorsett's long runs Drew Pearson was blocking downfield for him, every single time. I don't remember Drew being that effective as a blocker but evidently he was better at it than I remember.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Manning is a better QB than Aikman although Aikman was the most accurate passer I have ever seen (and I've seen an awful lot of QBs over the years). Manning has the total package at QB. We'll never know how good Troy could have been because he wasn't in a passing offense like Peyton is.

How is Manning the better "QB"?
Aikman got it done in playoffs, even elevated his game. Manning did not.. maybe CANNOT.

I would give Manning the edge on better passing ability. Not more accurate. Just all out spin around and look and find a target and nail him(not in playoffs though). Yes he is pretty good at reading D's and he lets everyone know it by his physical and audio. Aikman was just as good, if not better... he just did it a little quieter.

Too me "total package" means he gets it done in just about all situations. Manning is NOT good under pressure. Aikman was better under pressure.

Just my opinion.

 

[cujo]

Manning is still a young QB. .

Uh, what? He's going into his 9th season, right? Or are you talking about Eli?


The ONLY people who would argue the Colt's threesome is better than ours, would be Colt's fans themselves.

 

[Thomas82]

How is Manning the better "QB"?
Aikman got it done in playoffs, even elevated his game. Manning did not.. maybe CANNOT.

I would give Manning the edge on better passing ability. Not more accurate. Just all out spin around and look and find a target and nail him(not in playoffs though). Yes he is pretty good at reading D's and he lets everyone know it by his physical and audio. Aikman was just as good, if not better... he just did it a little quieter.

Too me "total package" means he gets it done in just about all situations. Manning is NOT good under pressure. Aikman was better under pressure.

Just my opinion.

What he said

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

How can the Colts even claim to have a partial right to the moniker "the Triplets?" Sure, Manning, Harrisson, and James are great players, but they never won anything and don't even exist anymore as a group.

Nice to see we agree on something, however I wouldn't even call the colts 'triplets' great players(at least not all of them)....the edge made the colts offense, and manning is finally going to be exposed as the fraud he is without him. James will help arizona, but their line is pourous and I don't think he will have the type of numbers he did behind a great line in indy and might become a 'fatcat'. Harrison IMO ranks in the top 10 all time receivers, but manning is a joke. I will never understand the hype this guy gets year after year when he is the true definition of a 'stat' QB that's absolutely horrible during the big games. He has had load of talent around him compared to some 'other' QB's that have produced with little to nothing around them in terms of offensive talent.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

How is Manning the better "QB"?
Aikman got it done in playoffs, even elevated his game. Manning did not.. maybe CANNOT.

I would give Manning the edge on better passing ability. Not more accurate. Just all out spin around and look and find a target and nail him(not in playoffs though). Yes he is pretty good at reading D's and he lets everyone know it by his physical and audio. Aikman was just as good, if not better... he just did it a little quieter.

Too me "total package" means he gets it done in just about all situations. Manning is NOT good under pressure. Aikman was better under pressure.

Just my opinion.

Yes part of the 'total package' definitely entails being able to deliver in the clutch against top defenses, winning playoff games, and carrying a team on your shoulders.....Manning falls very short in every category.

I laugh at the people who think he's a better passer than Bledsoe or some of the other all time great gunslingers. Don't get me wrong manning is outstanding with the 'dink and dunk'...midrange type of passes. He has also had tremendous success with the play action game. But that is history now that James went to arizona.

His record without the Edge is horrible, and people are going to find out this season that he's nothing more than the true definition of a 'stat' QB as the colts begin to decline.

 

[rdsknsbaby]

I see you laughing but something tells me you dont know what that post means...

the ">" symbol is GREATER than... so the fact that the "alligator" mouth is facing the Cowboys means they were greater than the Colts on the right side of it.

Just wanted to help you out.

umm yeah i got it. the guy was saying that the cowboys triplets were better than the Colts triplets... and i laughed.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Probably the 3 biggest differences:

1) Dallas had a defense through most of the triplets prime years.
2) Dallas had a better offensive line (although Indy's isn't garbage)
3) Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison have always disappeared in the big games, that was always when Irvin and Aikman were most visible