Game Day ***Cowboys vs Commanders post game thread***

[Joe_Fan]

What is a "mediocre draft pick" in terms of position in the first round?

We got two offensive lineman, probowlers, with those "mediocre draft picks" and Morris Claiborne with the top 10 pick. Shall we go through the list of busts in the top 15 every single year? I'm guessing there is a player in college you're just dying to have, because I can't think of any other reason a fan of a team one game behind a division leader is this upset over a win.

When you have had as pathetic of a season as what this is.. mid-teens is quite the mediocre pick considering.

I know that you'll never comprehend that but that's the truth to it because you're in the hobble into the playoffs but miss it crowd but I can't help that.

To go from what should have been a high pick on a poor season to a mid-to-late teen pick for a still pathetic season given the expectations is quite disappointing.

 

[big dog cowboy]

There are teams who draft in the top 10 every year and they still suck. They suck because they don't win. You build on wins, you don't build on losses.

 

[Ender]

Well then you can't be an intelligent fan. What do you want me to tell you?

Makes no sense. You think your intelligent because you want the team to tank with the hopes to get a better position. Last time the Cowboys drafted in the top ten they took Mo Claiborne. You act like tanking will grantee a star player or something. But you dont seem to that much of a fan. What do you want me to tell you?

 

[Ender]

I don't understand how folks call themselves fans, but want the team to lose. Especially considering its some of the same fans who post about how bad the front office and coaching staff is. You all want a higher draft pick, only to complain about who they draft. Be a fan and be happy with the win. A lot of you all are way to emotionally invested in something you have no control over.

 

[AKATheRake]

Back in the playoff hunt!!!!
Out of the QB derby...

I'll take Connor Cook in a heartbeat.

Let him learn behind Romo the next 2 years and heal any left over knee wounds in that period of time.

 

[John813]

Boy. That was a tough one to watch. Worth watching D Jackson lose 20 yards and fumble the ball.
Funny how both teams can't move the ball till the last 2 minutes.

Big game by Lee and Lucky stepped up when needed.

 

[Trendnet]

I couldn't have stated it any better myself Beast_from_East. You hit the nail on the head with this one.

As a fan, and after watching this disaster of a season play out I would hope for at least one good thing to come out of it and that's a high draft pick that could help us out next season and years beyond. I completely loathe buying into these moral victories that do nothing but hurt those chances and got enough of that taste back during the Campo era with the 5-11 victories that proved to be just enough to cause us to go from a team with a high choice to middle of the road picks.

I want to see this team improve. Not just next year but for years to come and quite honestly limping into the playoffs or missing them complete which is the far more likely scenario will accomplish that.

We went from going into this season with Super Bowl aspirations to being lucky to even win 500. So sorry, I don't find any joy in these wins that aren't going to be the one saving grace to what ended up being a highly disappointing one.

What will be even more of a kick in the gut is to miss the playoffs and then come April be sitting with a mediocre draft pick due to trying to rack up a few moral victories to end the season.

And that is problem with you, not with the Cowboys. If you can't find enjoyment in the Cowboys game other than wishing for some unamed player at an unspecified draft position, that's your issue.

Nothing is guaranteed, and the Cowboys should go out and try and win every game. And fanatics will cheer for that.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I'll take Connor Cook in a heartbeat.

Let him learn behind Romo the next 2 years and heal any left over knee wounds in that period of time.

Congats you just drafted Jay Cutler's personality without the arm talent.

 

[Bullet22]

I never want the Boys to lose for any reason.....

 

[AKATheRake]

Congats you just drafted Jay Cutler's personality without the arm talent.

I've never read anything other than this guy is a leader.

I have listened to a dozen of his interviews on many topics and the kid is always professional and football savvy.

His arm is not even close to questionable. If anything that's what the knock on him is. That he's too much into the deep ball instead of taking the intermediate yardage that is there and that has higher probability of completion.

Would love to see anything that substantiates both claims you made. Bad personality and an arm lacking to Jay Cutlers.

 

[phildadon86]

I think that is a little assumptious on your part Idgit...........if a fan logically thinks we will not make the playoffs, then said fan might think the best thing for his favorite team is to pick as high as possible in the draft. Said fan can be a die hard since childhood and logically have the ability to think outside of just the one game this week to determine what is best for his team.

Case in point, the Spurs totally sucked one year when David Robinson got hurt and ended up in the draft lottery and picked Tim Duncan. Now if the Spurs won a couple more games that year, they maybe could have snuck into the playoffs but they were not good enough to beat any of the good teams without David Robinson. Ergo, in hindsight it was much better for the Spurs not make the playoffs as a wildcard and instead have the chance to draft Tim Duncan and 4 championships later proves this. So if a Spur fan was rooting for his team to lose the last couple of weeks of the season, did that make him a bad fan?

You may question the logic or decision making, but questioning somebody's fandom because they think what might be best for the team might be short term pain for long term gain is pretty bad and closed minded in my opinion. You may disagree with the logic fans use, but to question anybody's fandom is crossing the line to be quite honest.

I know your reply was not directed at me, but I thought it was important to say this.

So what your saYing if I am right here is that we should tank because there is a sure fire hall of fame there in the top 5 next year's draft? Tim Duncan was a elite player coming out of school. NoNE of the top picks in this draft are anywhere close to as good as Duncan was coming out of school.

 

[Stryker44]

Congratulations on the win - but it makes absolutely no logical sense to me as a Commander fan.

Colt McCoy beat a 12-4 Dallas team last year, in Dallas, with a healthy Romo.

A vastly improved Commander team cannot score at will, and cannot shut out Matt Cassel when they held Romo to 17 points.

We had everything to play for - and Garrett and Marinelli are both broken shells of men, after their complete and utter failures as leaders. In particular the 0-16 season that Marinelli achieved. Yet their units played well yesterday. I thought the Dallas defense as a joke as its been since the mid 90s (with a brief spate in the mid 2000s), but I guess I was wrong.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Boy. That was a tough one to watch. Worth watching D Jackson lose 20 yards and fumble the ball.
Funny how both teams can't move the ball till the last 2 minutes.

Big game by Lee and Lucky stepped up when needed.

I'm upset we let Jackson off the hook. He's be getting killed today if they lose that game without the late TD to tie it up.

 

[Chuck 54]

I find myself in a win-win without much joy situation.

If the Cowboys win, I'm always happy...I cannot watch a game like last night and not hope they win. Even those who argue about the draft position, I just cannot imagine they were sitting at home actually celebrating the Jackson TD that tied the game or hoping Bailey would miss that FG....I just can't even imagine that actually happened.

I would hope they are more in the frame as I am. The Cowboys win, I'm happy they won, but I lament the possibility that they may miss out on a good college player in the spring. The Cowboys lose, I'm sad and unhappy, but I comfort myself that they will pick ahead of their division rivals.

Still, I"m been a Cowboys fan for far too long to ever fail to celebrate beating the freakin' Skins.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I've never read anything other than this guy is a leader.

I have listened to a dozen of his interviews on many topics and the kid is always professional and football savvy.

His arm is not even close to questionable. If anything that's what the knock on him is. That he's too much into the deep ball instead of taking the intermediate yardage that is there and that has higher probability of completion.

Would love to see anything that substantiates both claims you made. Bad personality and an arm lacking to Jay Cutlers.

Fifth year senior QB didn't get voted a team captain. All I need.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Keep telling yourself that. Let's talk when we miss the playoffs and you're wondering what happened come April.

I bet you were the same fan who was thrilled when we got a couple of cheap wins during those 5-11 years with Campo as well.

At some point you need to put the team first rather than going for moral victories that don't do anything.

Save your breath, a true fan will never find justification for rooting against the Cowboys.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Fifth year senior QB didn't get voted a team captain. All I need.

That is rare that a senior qb isn't a captain. Hmmmmm

 

[AKATheRake]

Fifth year senior QB didn't get voted a team captain. All I need.

Interesting. Didn't know that.

 

[Nightman]

Fifth year senior QB didn't get voted a team captain. All I need.

"No one went to his birthday party"

 

[Beast_from_East]

So what your saYing if I am right here is that we should tank because there is a sure fire hall of fame there in the top 5 next year's draft? Tim Duncan was a elite player coming out of school. NoNE of the top picks in this draft are anywhere close to as good as Duncan was coming out of school.

Fans cant make a team tank, I think this is the biggest misconception on this board. No, the Cowboy are not going to tank for any draft pick. What I am talking about is from the fan's perspective. If we are talking playoffs, sure, I bet there is not more than just a couple of posters out of tens of thousands on this board that would rather have a high draft pick over going to the playoffs, the issue is what if we don't make the playoffs? There are two scenarios.....

A. We win a couple of games, but don't win the division and finish 6-10 with a pick in the 10-15 range.

B. We do not win another game the rest of the season and at 4-12 are picking in the 5-10 range.


I think it is more than logical for a fan to look at these scenarios and reasonably come to the conclusion that scenario B is the best choice and that you can get a much better player at pick 5 than you can at pick 15. So if that is how a fan wants to look at the situation, I am not going to bash him or her for it. I dam sure am not going to sit here and say rooting for a higher draft pick is the equivalent of sexual assault

(not saying this to you, just saying that yesterday that was posted in one of the threads talking about this issue, that basically people who root for higher draft picks are the type of people that would sleep with unconscious women)