Cowboys will likely explore signing Tony Romo to a long-term contract

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MarkBrunell;1373028 said:
I never understand the garbage "give him comptetion" arguement. If your naming someone a starter and banking your future on him, bringing in comptetion will only hurt his confidence and morale.

From an unbiased perspective, I think you guys should wait half way through the 2007 seaosn before handing Romo a long term extension.

Competition is never a bad idea. Romo can be THE guy, but you can also never have enough quality players at that position, pushing each other to be better. If you're so weak minded that you can't handle a little competition, you can't play in the NFL. we've already seen that show with Hutch and unfortunately Henson.

I don't think anthing is gained by waiting halfway through the season to resign him, though. Just get it over with.
 

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BlueStar22;1373106 said:
Then let him go to UFA. Jerry has the money. I couldn't care less about money, it isn't mine. Jerry isn't known for low balling his players anyways. He may in the beginnning but he has no problem paying the money.

In the Seattle game, i'm talking about all the bad throws. I understood missing a few in the beginning but he missed guys a lot in that game. Sure he made plays but it definitely wasn't one of his better games.

You do understand that if he goes UFA he might sign with another team right?

When you play in the rain you will make bad throws. He had a good game -- he hits on everything and you are talking about having a great game. You make it out like he sucked.
 

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philo beddoe;1373011 said:
CFL All-Star Ricky Ray would provide Romo stiff competition. Matt Baker may too. Competition is always good.
I think I'm going to submit Ricky Ray to Hos as a filtered word. So we never have to see that name on here anymore.
MichaelWinicki;1373107 said:
Your thought process at times just perplexes me. :(
Just at times, huh?

As for whether Romo should get an extension, of course he should. The question is who's contract are they going to use as a basis. I'm thinking Bulger's initial contract extension and Delhomme's extension after the SB.

And they definitely need to bring some more QB's in. The pickings are slim, but I'm putting this on record that I don't want Garcia.

Can you imagine Garcia and TO on the same team again?
 

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BlueStar22;1373091 said:
What's the rush? Tony started out like a ball of fire and even though the defense was our demise, Romo didn't play well down the stretch either. I still have the Seattle game on my DVR and for much of that game, he was horrible. Nothing wrong with waiting until he plays a few games next year to get a deal done.

I agree.

We need to make sure we are right.

And if he plays fantastic again, make him your franchise quarterback. Franchise him. It would not be the end of the world.
 

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Alexander;1373124 said:
I agree.

We need to make sure we are right.

And if he plays fantastic again, make him your franchise quarterback. Franchise him. It would not be the end of the world.

I think the chances are much better that "he is right" than "he is wrong".

That being said the cost to franchise him will be incredible high-- probably $13-$15 mill. Certainly much higher than what his average salary would be if we just signed him, which I would guess will be $6 to $9 mill per year.

Not to mention the "ugliness" that seems to follow when you slap the franchise tag on someone.

I sign him now before the cost escalates even more.
 

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Competition has never killed anyone, it just disposes of the weak.
 

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Clove;1373193 said:
Competition has never killed anyone, it just disposes of the weak.


Nice cliche'

But the fact is no starting QB is going to face a world of competition in training camp-- especially a new starter like Romo because he will need all the reps he can get AND he'll be learning a new offensive system.

You won't create competition based upon giving one guy getting 75% of the snaps.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1373181 said:
I think the chances are much better that "he is right" than "he is wrong".

That being said the cost to franchise him will be incredible high-- probably $13-$15 mill. Certainly much higher than what his average salary would be if we just signed him, which I would guess will be $6 to $9 mill per year.

Not to mention the "ugliness" that seems to follow when you slap the franchise tag on someone.

I sign him now before the cost escalates even more.

The franchise tag buys you time and lasts a year. It worked with Flozell Adams and allowed a fair deal to be worked on.

This is a very slippery deal to make right now. On one hand, you could consider it "the time" after his humility might be in the depths because he is still stung by the muffed snap. And he might sign a more cap friendly deal.

I would not, however, like to invest six to nine million a year for the next three or four seasons and have him play like he did against Seattle. He looked like something less than the phenom and if that is the norm and not the exception, we'd end up with an expense starter we could never replace, no matter how bad he played. I am not prepared to say I would committ a big contract to a young and very inconsistent player.

The mystery and his inconsistency would have a prudent person lean towards being cautious. It all depends on Jerry Jones' mood.
 

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Alexander;1373205 said:
The franchise tag buys you time and lasts a year. It worked with Flozell Adams and allowed a fair deal to be worked on.

If you franchise him and he has another pro bowl year, don´t you think someone would give 2 first round picks to get a 27 year old 2 time pro bowl QB.

Why risk it. NFL contracts are not guaranteed anyway.
 

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tecolote;1373274 said:
If you franchise him and he has another pro bowl year, don´t you think someone would give 2 first round picks to get a 27 year old 2 time pro bowl QB.

Why risk it. NFL contracts are not guaranteed anyway.

If you designate your franchise player your "exclusive" franchise player, you reserve the right of negotiation. You won't lose that player unless you want to. That is the high end, which forces you to pay the player the average of the top five salaries at the player's position or a 20 percent increase over his previous season's salary. You could also just use the regular tag, which allows you the right to match. That carries a similar price tag.

For the record, I would take two first round choices for any QB in this league not named Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. And that especially includes a player who hasn't show he can play consistently yet.
 

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tecolote;1373274 said:
If you franchise him and he has another pro bowl year, don´t you think someone would give 2 first round picks to get a 27 year old 2 time pro bowl QB.

Why risk it. NFL contracts are not guaranteed anyway.

no, contracts aren't guaranteed but the salary cap ramifications of making a bad deal are. Again, what is the rush? I know, it's not your money, that's why is has to be done NOW. Jerry was thorough in his coaching search, he'll be thorough in his wait to give Romo a long term deal.
 

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What I'm about to say has ZERO to do with the Pro Bowl. I didn't even watch it. Apparently Romo looked bad, but who cares, it is the Pro Bowl.

My perspective has more to do with my belief that if a QB has serious drawbacks it shows up more and more over time when defenses learn the guy and game plan for his weaknesses.

What I want to say is this. I would not put all of my eggs in the Romo basket. If Dallas has the opportunity, through the draft, to pick up another potential QB of the future, I would not pass on that. I think to put it all into Romo would be a bad decision. He may indeed turn out to be the next great Cowboys QB, I HOPE HE IS (I'm tired of being without one), but I wouldn't say he has established that just yet.

Just my 2 cents, and probably worth that.
 

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I´m not talking about giving him a 10 year 100 mill deal, at his current deal he will probably be the lowest paid starter in the league, not sure about that, i´m just talking about an extension and a raise on his current deal.

Nothing that would hurt the cowboys salary cap wise in the long turn in case he doesn´t work out, I think he will by the way.

We will need to get a veteran back up for next year, the going rate for one is probably more than what Romo will make, you can´t have your back up earning more then your starter.
 

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More Romo doubt... there are enough threads going around to give your 2 cents in.
 

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Even when teams "figured him out" he still put up pretty good numbers.
 

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rcaldw;1373313 said:
What I'm about to say has ZERO to do with the Pro Bowl. I didn't even watch it. Apparently Romo looked bad, but who cares, it is the Pro Bowl.

My perspective has more to do with my belief that if a QB has serious drawbacks it shows up more and more over time when defenses learn the guy and game plan for his weaknesses.

What I want to say is this. I would not put all of my eggs in the Romo basket. If Dallas has the opportunity, through the draft, to pick up another potential QB of the future, I would not pass on that. I think to put it all into Romo would be a bad decision. He may indeed turn out to be the next great Cowboys QB, I HOPE HE IS (I'm tired of being without one), but I wouldn't say he has established that just yet.

Just my 2 cents, and probably worth that.


I agree 100% with you. I wouldn't spend a 1 or 2 but a later pick on someone to develop would be prudent.
 
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I like Romo like the next guy but I say let him play out the season before investing a long-term deal in him..
 

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Alexander;1373205 said:
The franchise tag buys you time and lasts a year. It worked with Flozell Adams and allowed a fair deal to be worked on.

This is a very slippery deal to make right now. On one hand, you could consider it "the time" after his humility might be in the depths because he is still stung by the muffed snap. And he might sign a more cap friendly deal.

I would not, however, like to invest six to nine million a year for the next three or four seasons and have him play like he did against Seattle. He looked like something less than the phenom and if that is the norm and not the exception, we'd end up with an expense starter we could never replace, no matter how bad he played. I am not prepared to say I would committ a big contract to a young and very inconsistent player.

The mystery and his inconsistency would have a prudent person lean towards being cautious. It all depends on Jerry Jones' mood.


But I'm betting they do committ a big contract to the young and not-as-inconsistent-as-you-think QB.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1373349 said:
But I'm betting they do committ a big contract to the young and not-as-inconsistent-as-you-think QB.

They probably will. Jerry Jones can never be accused of not being a romantic.
 

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Im with you, Alexander. If he turns out awesome, then pay him. If not, oh well. It seems to be the general consensus that the chances of him being decent-good are a lot higher than those of him tanking, but the consequences of him tanking are so heavy that its not a game you want to be playing.
 
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