Twitter: Cowboys working out UFL D-Lineman

Need a immovable force to hold point at the nose. Plus I'd like the player to have just enough functionality with his movement to slide down the line and make a tackle . Yes eat space, but make a stop . Mostly, I need my guy to eat double teams so the others can rally to the ball freely. That's what a 1 techs main job is.
 
Rayman70 said:
Need a immovable force to hold point at the nose. Plus I'd like the player to have just enough functionality with his movement to slide down the line and make a tackle . Yes eat space, but make a stop . Mostly, I need my guy to eat double teams so the others can rally to the ball freely. That's what a 1 techs main job is.
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Well, here's the deal. Why does a NT require a double? The NT will require a double if he's disruptive, if he go to the side to beat his blocker. No double is required of a player who only holds his ground.

Eat space: A NT eats space in two ways. By pushing the OL back, and by being quick enough laterally to stop anything coming to the side of him. A straightline NT does not eat space.
 
IF the NT requires doubling to be moved, then he is doing his job. Does not have to have elite quickness to do that. Just be a big trashcan full of dirt clogging up the middle which would be a great increase in our D capability against the run.
 
kskboys said:
Well, here's the deal. Why does a NT require a double? The NT will require a double if he's disruptive, if he go to the side to beat his blocker. No double is required of a player who only holds his ground.

Eat space: A NT eats space in two ways. By pushing the OL back, and by being quick enough laterally to stop anything coming to the side of him. A straightline NT does not eat space.
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He doesn't have to be disruptive, just difficult to move. If the offense can't get him off the ball then it always has to go around him. That's why you see offenses generally start with a quick double of the NT, to try to get him started moving in a certain direction. If they can do that, then either the guard or center peels off to go get a linebacker on the second level. If they can't, then their first responsibility is to move that NT.

Now, there are schemes that rely on the NT to absolutely be disruptive. I believe Eberflus just wants him to keep the linebackers clean by holding up the OL for as long as possible. Of course, I think every DC would love to have an NT that not only can hold up to a double-team but also destroy one. They definitely want an NT that can destroy single-blocking and at least force offenses to double him.
 
kskboys said:
Well, here's the deal. Why does a NT require a double? The NT will require a double if he's disruptive, if he go to the side to beat his blocker. No double is required of a player who only holds his ground.

Eat space: A NT eats space in two ways. By pushing the OL back, and by being quick enough laterally to stop anything coming to the side of him. A straightline NT does not eat space.
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Just hold the point, slow down the run, eat blockers, push the pocket every now and then. Not asking for that much.
 
gimmesix said:
He doesn't have to be disruptive, just difficult to move. If the offense can't get him off the ball then it always has to go around him. That's why you see offenses generally start with a quick double of the NT, to try to get him started moving in a certain direction. If they can do that, then either the guard or center peels off to go get a linebacker on the second level. If they can't, then their first responsibility is to move that NT.

Now, there are schemes that rely on the NT to absolutely be disruptive. I believe Eberflus just wants him to keep the linebackers clean by holding up the OL for as long as possible. Of course, I think every DC would love to have an NT that not only can hold up to a double-team but also destroy one. They definitely want an NT that can destroy single-blocking and at least force offenses to double him.
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This
 
gtb1943 said:
IF the NT requires doubling to be moved, then he is doing his job. Does not have to have elite quickness to do that. Just be a big trashcan full of dirt clogging up the middle which would be a great increase in our D capability against the run.
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Well said. Agree.
 
gtb1943 said:
IF the NT requires doubling to be moved, then he is doing his job. Does not have to have elite quickness to do that. Just be a big trashcan full of dirt clogging up the middle which would be a great increase in our D capability against the run.
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If he doesn't have quick feet, then doubling will not be required. Clogging up the middle involves a ton more than just standing there.
 
gimmesix said:
He doesn't have to be disruptive, just difficult to move. If the offense can't get him off the ball then it always has to go around him. That's why you see offenses generally start with a quick double of the NT, to try to get him started moving in a certain direction. If they can do that, then either the guard or center peels off to go get a linebacker on the second level. If they can't, then their first responsibility is to move that NT.

Now, there are schemes that rely on the NT to absolutely be disruptive. I believe Eberflus just wants him to keep the linebackers clean by holding up the OL for as long as possible. Of course, I think every DC would love to have an NT that not only can hold up to a double-team but also destroy one. They definitely want an NT that can destroy single-blocking and at least force offenses to double him.
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And if he's a straightline athlete, it's easy to go around him.

Think, guys, just difficult to move is only one tiny part of being a NT. There's just so much more to it than you guys realize. An O does not have to double the NT if he simply holds his ground and that's it.
 
kskboys said:
And if he's a straightline athlete, it's easy to go around him.

Think, guys, just difficult to move is only one tiny part of being a NT. There's just so much more to it than you guys realize. An O does not have to double the NT if he simply holds his ground and that's it.
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Ideally, he can do more than just hold his spot, but having to go around him because you can't move him affects an offense. Like I said, he needs to be able to defeat one-on-one blocking to force the double-team. The double gives a linebacker more time/freedom to get into the hole and get to the running back. Being difficult to move is a big part of being an NT in a typical 4-3. Holding the double team is the primary job.
 
kskboys said:
And if he's a straightline athlete, it's easy to go around him.

Think, guys, just difficult to move is only one tiny part of being a NT. There's just so much more to it than you guys realize. An O does not have to double the NT if he simply holds his ground and that's it.
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You imply the candidates in the positional group are presently limited completely as such...right?
 
Chasing6 said:
How many DE's do we need? Or are we trying move to a 3-4 defense?
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Element of surprise is in play I think. If you notice our hc hasn't said much at all pertaining to defensive scheme.. I think it will be a hybrid. I feel we will have the ability to run whatever look we choose. As long as we can slow down the run, I'm fine. If we cannot do that, it won't matter what scheme we implement.
 
kskboys said:
And if he's a straightline athlete, it's easy to go around him.

Think, guys, just difficult to move is only one tiny part of being a NT. There's just so much more to it than you guys realize. An O does not have to double the NT if he simply holds his ground and that's it.
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Standing up those trying to move him is NOT a tiny part
you have fallen into the jethro trap
 
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