Crayton didn't 'QUIT" on that route!

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thanks:cry3::eyepoke:
 

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hendog;2085270 said:
That's not uncommon when you have an unexperienced QB throwing to an unexperienced #2 WR.

Yeah, let's blame Romo on that one.

You are Crayton's agent, right?

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notherbob;2085280 said:
Explaining why he quit on a route doesn't mean he didn't quit on it. Even so, I can forgive that but the junior high trash talk was idiotic.

Even Swinton didn't talk as much trash as Crayton.

I am still scratching mah head over Jerra giving journeyman Crayton a new contract.
I'm just hoping that with the perceived new emphasis on the TE formations, we'll rarely see Crayton. He truly is a journeyman. And not a very good journeyman at that.
 

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Crayton QUIT and he ran his mouth all year when he had no business doing it.:mad:

He is probably a #4 receiver...I think someone with better hands should be the #3 because they need to be counted on to move the chains. And the #2 guy needs serious speed -- Crayton has average hands and he is slow...TO jogged by Crayton when he was running full speed last year.:eek:

On a side note: I hope the Amendola kid who runs precise routes and has good hands can work his way into the lineup -- slot guy. He could help move the chains.


 

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Clove;2085728 said:
All he has to do is keep running, simple. Don't stop, don't hesitate, just keep running.

Yep.
That is what they teach junior high players. Don't quit. He quit.
If he had dropped a ball, yeah, Mercy Street. It happens.
But he quit and didn't give the play a chance. That is punk behavior. Nonprofessional. I guess he thought that Jerra liked him so much he could take some plays off.

Crayton is soooooo overrated, it is sickening.
 

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Hostile;2085276 said:
Earlier this year there was an article where Crayton admitted that he did. He even went so far as to say someone close to him asking him why he let up had a profound effect on him.

He appeared on Michael Irvin's radio show a few days after the game.

He said due to the length of the play, he had already ran his route and was "improvising" at the time Tony Romo threw him the ball. Michael Irvin seemed to understand what he was saying and agreed with Crayton's analyisis, but Mike's always been a hack for Wide Recievers.

I put the video up on Youtube, but unfortunately the NFL forced me to take it down ;) . However, the recap should be on this forum somewhere.

That ball definately should have been caught.
 

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CountryBoy1;2085930 said:
Crayton QUIT and he ran his mouth all year when he had no business doing it.

Yep, I think this is one of the main reasons why the fans just cannot let that play go.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2086013 said:
He appeared on Michael Irvin's radio show a few days after the game.

He said due to the length of the play, he had already ran his route and was "improvising" at the time Tony Romo threw him the ball. Michael Irvin seemed to understand what he was saying and agreed with Crayton's analyisis, but Mike's always been a hack for Wide Recievers.

I put the video up on Youtube, but unfortunately the NFL forced me to take it down ;) . However, the recap should be on this forum somewhere.

That ball definately should have been caught.

you can watch part 8 of my video and see the play and the hesitation on replay. Also you can hear laufenberg point out that crayton slowed down for some strange reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJX6mnRLbhw
 

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hendog;2085278 said:
I don't "love" Crayton. I know he screwed up but I don't think that he quit on the play. I just think he made a mistake. At the worst possible time.

As a former coach, he didn't quit on the route, he did make a mistake in not knowing exactly what route to run when he got that coverage. He hesitated and it cost us.

Now, he did goof tremendously when he dropped that pass. :banghead:

I also wasn't a fan of the trash talk, but I'm still a big Crayton fan. :starspin
 

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Danny White;2085295 said:
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm just an unfrozen caveman lawyer.

I fell on some ice and later got thawed out by some of your scientists.

I don't understand complicated things like "routes" or "coverages" or "assignments." My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

But there is one thing I do know. If Patrick Crayton would have kept running, we'd have had a touchdown and won the game. :(
:lmao:
 

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HTownCowboysFan;2086024 said:
As a former coach, he didn't quit on the route, he did make a mistake in not knowing exactly what route to run when he got that coverage. He hesitated and it cost us.

Now, he did goof tremendously when he dropped that pass. :banghead:

I also wasn't a fan of the trash talk, but I'm still a big Crayton fan. :starspin

Yeah me too. The guy is consistent and has excellent hands. Unfortunately for us, one of his bad games came at a really bad time but he's still a damn good WR and played great for us all year long. I have no issues with Crayton, none...
 

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hendog;2085270 said:
First off - I'm not the biggest Crayton apologist or anything.

Anybody that really follows NFL football knows that on any and every given play the WR's have several different routes that they run based on the defensive alignment and coverage.

Manning and Harrison do it best these days.

Crayton doesn't know if him and Romo are on the same page. He pulls up and looks back because he's not sure if Romo expects him to break off his route or keep heading to the corner.

We all know the result.

Crayton didn't quit on the route he just simply wasn't sure of the pattern Romo expected him to run based on the coverage.

That's not uncommon when you have an unexperienced QB throwing to an unexperienced #2 WR.

That's right, he did not quit the route....everyone involved has said the same thing. Even Michael Irvin said he did nothing seriously wrong and the original route had to be broken. Once the original route broke down, he improvised. However, he did not improvise as well as he should have--which would have been to go to the open space in the back of the endzone.

When NFL receiver are rated, he usually rates fairly well for a #2...just not as high as many of the others. It'd be nice to have two WRs that are #1 caliber, but with Glenn out, we do not right now.
 

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DFWJC;2086859 said:
That's right, he did not quit the route....everyone involved has said the same thing. Even Michael Irvin said he did nothing seriously wrong and the original route had to be broken. Once the original route broke down, he improvised. However, he did not improvise as well as he should have--which would have been to go to the open space in the back of the endzone.

When NFL receiver are rated, he usually rates fairly well for a #2...just not as high as many of the others. It'd be nice to have two WRs that are #1 caliber, but with Glenn out, we do not right now.


I thought the excuses stopped and the proof of him quitting has been proven a dozen times or so already.

Ok one more time... he had his man beat, we needed 7, the game was almost over, only time for one more play after that, we needed it then, it was there, he didnt go there. Period.
 

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notherbob;2085280 said:
Explaining why he quit on a route doesn't mean he didn't quit on it. Even so, I can forgive that but the junior high trash talk was idiotic.

Yeah...I think the trash talk magnified any mistakes he made in that game. Sure hope he learned from his mistakes, but some of these guys never learn when to keep their trap shut.
 

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DFWJC;2086870 said:
Yeah...I think the trash talk magnified any mistakes he made in that game. Sure hope he learned from his mistakes, but some of these guys never learn when to keep their trap shut.


Good point... all that trashtalking just put Crayton on the Giants radar... any little extra they had - it went to Crayton. They prob took him off his game.

**** and play.

No one cares what you say(except reporter) - they only care about what you do
 

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YoMick;2086868 said:
I thought the excuses stopped and the proof of him quitting has been proven a dozen times or so already.

Ok one more time... he had his man beat, we needed 7, the game was almost over, only time for one more play after that, we needed it then, it was there, he didnt go there. Period.
You forgot: point blank.
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CountryBoy1;2085930 said:
Crayton QUIT and he ran his mouth all year when he had no business doing it.:mad:

He is probably a #4 receiver...I think someone with better hands should be the #3 because they need to be counted on to move the chains. And the #2 guy needs serious speed -- Crayton has average hands and he is slow...TO jogged by Crayton when he was running full speed last year.:eek:

On a side note: I hope the Amendola kid who runs precise routes and has good hands can work his way into the lineup -- slot guy. He could help move the chains.



Crayton is a very good #3 WR. Statistically he was perhaps the top #3 guy in the league in 2006. I think he had the highest rating based on the number of passes thrown his way. His 2007 proved he was a valuable #3 guy because he did what few #3 guys have to do and that is fill in and play the #2 role for the entire season. Few #3 guys in the NFL are going to have great success having to step into that role. Crayton turned in a pretty good year in that role. That doesn't mean he should be the full time #2 guy, but it is good to know that if forced to do it he can step up. So, he is a good #3.

Plus he doesn't have average hands. I don't think that has been a criticism of him since he has been in Dallas. He has very good hands.

He did run his mouth too much for a guy who is just the #3 guy.

Before the play, Romo was yelling last second instructions over to Crayton. No one has ever mentioned what Romo said. I think he recognized the coverage and knew Crayton would be single covered and told Crayton to look for the ball to come to him.
 

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joseephuss;2087080 said:
Before the play, Romo was yelling last second instructions over to Crayton. No one has ever mentioned what Romo said. I think he recognized the coverage and knew Crayton would be single covered and told Crayton to look for the ball to come to him.


If thats true... then my anger is renewed. :bang2:
 
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