Crayton Request Release?

[Section446]

What happens if one of our top three receivers goes down with a serious injury during camp? If we've released Crayton then we're suddenly weaker at the position.

Also, the idea that he's only an insurance policy seems shallow. Perhaps I am naive, but if he were to show up at camp in great condition and out-perform Ogletree and/or Roy Williams, why wouldn't he have a spot?

His squawking is a problem for the team. They need to try to move him, even if it's for the 7th round pick that they used on him years ago.

I'd almost feel dirty if we traded him for a 7th round pick. I think we should look for a 5th that can turn into a 3rd based on performance.

 

[Randy White]

it's not complicated.

Patrick Crayton is under contract. He has zero leverage. He knows that, so he's taking a page out of his good friend T.O. and trying to force the organization into getting what he wants.

That's my problem with him.

If he was a RFA who didn't want to sign his tender, I'd be on his side because it would be his right NOT to so, but that's not the case. Once again, the organization has been nothing but good to him. He was signed to a long term contract when just about any other organization in the league would have kept him on a year to year basis and if he wouldn't have liked it, he would have been cut. This is a clear case of him thinking he's more than what he really is. Yes, there are teams out there who'd line up to sign him the minute he gets cut, but more than likely none of them for the same money he'll be making this year if he stays on the roster.

For those of you who think that " the writting " is on the wall with him, ( or even Dez ) well, research the name Mike Sherrard. There isn't anything guaranteed for this guys except an opportunity and what looks like an over crowded position on the team today, it could turn into a position of need by the end of any week from now 'til the Superbowl.

The Cowboys are trying to contend for the SB. They know they have talented, skilled players at the WR position, but only 3 of them with any real experience and Crayton is one of them. They could release him and everything would work out anyways, or they could release him, then either Roy or Miles gets injured and lost for the season, and all of the sudden they find themselves with a rookie WR starting on one side ( Dez ), and a 2nd year player with extremelly limited experience in the slot. Although if it came to that, the Cowboys would adapt, it's not exactly the scenario they want at any point of the season.

Someone mentioned this earlier and was right on point. The Cowboys under Jerrah have treated veterans with respect for years. If they know that a vet is not going to make the roster, they let him go as early as posible so they can catch up with other teams. Rarely, do they keep them 'til the end of training camp and then cut them, partly because of the respect angle and partly because they don't want that vet taking practice time from other players they consider have a better shot. As a matter of fact, I can't think of any that they've done that with at this moment.

Crayton, once again, should shut his pie hole and see what happens. At worst, he'll be making 2 million dollars when there are over 10 million people looking for work.

 

[Idgit]

I've supported PC all through this offseason, but this is a situation where the guy really should shut up and concentrate on business. He's got a right to be dissatisfied and to ask for a trade. He doesn't have grounds for being disruptive, and he should show the class Marcus Spears is showing in a similar situation.

 

[CCBoy]

Randy White...good comment to core of Jerry Jones. He stands by his 'guys,' and does a better job of evaluating them than did Bill Parcells.

That stated, the 'protection' or insurance for this team is clearly located in the special skills group on the team. The team made a comment to The NFL Channel in an unquoted statement, that Crayton is NOT going anywhere!

It appears that unless a strong deal were offered this pre-season, the offensive production is the 'protected' aspect that this team enters the season with.

 

[CCBoy]

I've supported PC all through this offseason, but this is a situation where the guy really should shut up and concentrate on business. He's got a right to be dissatisfied and to ask for a trade. He doesn't have grounds for being disruptive, and he should show the class Marcus Spears is showing in a similar situation.

View agreed with, strongly...:starspin

 

[birdwells1]

If he has value, he has value. If a team wants him in June, they'll want him in September too. Teams churn their rosters all season long. I don't buy timing as a reason unless he's not as well-regarded as he and his agent seem to think he is.

I think that you will see in my post I stated that PC knows who he is a solid wr nothing spectacular.

And you assume that finances will be the determining factor and also assume that the Cowboys will cut him. Two big assumptions in my opinion.

You might be right about the assumptions I'm making but with RW on the roster with a starting position and rolling Barber out there every week last year the assumption that finance has something to do with it may not be that far fetched.

The team has what they feel is a commodity - a quality reeceiver at an overstocked positon. They have something of value that other teams do not. Why should they give away this commodity for free? So that one individual can be happy over the best interests of the oprganization? I'd rather do what's best for the team. I root for the team over one player.

So in your opinion the Cowboys hold PC in high regards too.

I root for the team also but some poster act as though they can't understand why some player take certain stance. We as fans have been following this team for years and years and the players we have only became Cowboy fans when they became a part of the team. They want to win but the emotional attachment is not nearly as strong as us fans. Here's something that you may not know NFL players have 2 teams, the one that they play for and the one that they rooted for while growing up. When a player holds out I don't take it personal it's just business, it's the way the NFL is setup with non guaranteed contracts and all.


I am a fan of his. Haven't always been thrilled with him, but I appreciate what he's done and what he can still do. I'd rather see him remain with the team or be traded away for something in return. But I simply would not let a player of his quality walk for nothing.

Boy you really think alot of him as a player so why shouldn't he.

 

[Idgit]

View agreed with, strongly...:starspin

What's worse, if he's going this route, there's probably a lot more of this stuff coming. It's a line he should never have crossed, because it's not going to motivate the team to release him, and it's bush-league to badmouth your own team under circumstances like this.

And to point to 'providing for your family' when you're talking about a management that's given you the chance to develop into the $14m player you've become is pretty disrespectful, imnsho.

PC's a proud player, and that's generally a good thing, but he really needs to keep things in perspective here. Or keep it out of the press if he can't keep it in perspective.

 

[CCBoy]

What's worse, if he's going this route, there's probably a lot more of this stuff coming. It's a line he should never have crossed, because it's not going to motivate the team to release him, and it's bush-league to badmouth your own team under circumstances like this.

And to point to 'providing for your family' when you're talking about a management that's given you the chance to develop into the $14m player you've become is pretty disrespectful, imnsho.

PC's a proud player, and that's generally a good thing, but he really needs to keep things in perspective here. Or keep it out of the press if he can't keep it in perspective.

Thanks for sharing further.

Yea, I think he did pretty well for a kid who came from the collegiate ranks as a quarterback with some open field skills. The Cowboys did a good job of evaluating talent and developing his talent up. You are correct in that he worked his tail off to be a good NFL quality receiver. I think his own desires created an ache in his heart and he still wants to reach an elite plateau.

 

[Eskimo]

You do realize we will be paying Sam Hurd just a little under $2M to give even less as a receiver and only cover kicks?

He's remaining quiet and "working hard" because he probably knows he would have a tough time being more anywhere else than what he is here and get that kind of money on a one year deal. Crayton is making noise to get the ball rolling.

Hurd should definitely be released if he can't beat out Ogletree for the #4 receiver spot. Just find another young, hungry and cheap JAG who can cover kicks.

 

[28 Joker]

IMO, there is no way Patrick Crayton fits into the Dallas lockerroom now.. The damage has been done.

Unless you want a season of Melrose Place in the lockerroom,, you better cut him.

 

[starfrombirth]

IMO, there is no way Patrick Crayton fits into the Dallas lockerroom now.. The damage has been done.

Unless you want a season of Melrose Place in the lockerroom,, you better cut him.

After this, you release him a day before the season starts. Have a nice life Patrick.

 

[iceberg]

After this, you release him a day before the season starts. Have a nice life Patrick.

why do people take business so personally? this *is* what the cowboys are doing.

 

[gimmesix]

I didn't address that but I guess you could be right. I think it possible that he could be out in the dark if they release him at the end of camp. I suspect if they keep him that long they will keep him. Just a guess though. He's clearly at least the number 4 WR on the team. If not worse.

To me, the team absolutely has to be sold on Ogletree not to keep Crayton. Right now, Crayton has to be No. 4 on the depth chart, so it's up to Ogletree to knock him off. If he does that (and maybe the Cowboys feel he already has), then, and only then, I can see Dallas outright releasing Crayton at some point to grant him his wish.

Right now, it makes more sense to me for Dallas to keep Crayton as receiver insurance. As training camp progresses, the picture might not shape up that way. And if Dallas gets a decent trade offer, all bets are off.

 

[Eskimo]

To me, the team absolutely has to be sold on Ogletree not to keep Crayton. Right now, Crayton has to be No. 4 on the depth chart, so it's up to Ogletree to knock him off. If he does that (and maybe the Cowboys feel he already has), then, and only then, I can see Dallas outright releasing Crayton at some point to grant him his wish.

Right now, it makes more sense to me for Dallas to keep Crayton as receiver insurance. As training camp progresses, the picture might not shape up that way. And if Dallas gets a decent trade offer, all bets are off.

I think they are holding onto him to see if a trade opportunity opens up in the preseason. If none does, he serves as insurance through the preseason against injury to any of the top 3. If all are healthy, Crayton will not make the final cut.

 

[Deep_South]

I'm really curious how Ogletree, who caught 7 passes last year, beat out Crayton during the off-season.

One of the sportswriters said Jerry is treating this like the first capped year instead of the first uncapped year, and I think that is about right.

I just really hope we don't end up short an experienced receiver come December and January because of injuries.

 

[blindzebra]

If we keep TO does Austin ever explode?

If we keep Ellis does Spencer ever click?

If we keep Henry does Jenkins make that jump?

You owe it to the team long term to pick youth with potential over vets with no upside.

Especially when that vet is a whiney, loud mouth, middle of the pack WR who thinks he is Jerry Fing Rice.

 

[Eskimo]

If we keep TO does Austin ever explode?

If we keep Ellis does Spencer ever click?

If we keep Henry does Jenkins make that jump?

You owe it to the team long term to pick youth with potential over vets with no upside.

Especially when that vet is a whiney, loud mouth, middle of the pack WR who thinks he is Jerry Fing Rice.

Are we talking about Crayton or RW11 here or perhaps both?

 

[Deep_South]

If we keep TO does Austin ever explode?

If we keep Ellis does Spencer ever click?

If we keep Henry does Jenkins make that jump?

You owe it to the team long term to pick youth with potential over vets with no upside.

Especially when that vet is a whiney, loud mouth, middle of the pack WR who thinks he is Jerry Fing Rice.

I think there is a big difference between the coaches deciding which player will stay on the team and the owner making that decision.

If Wade Phillips came out tomorrow and said he thinks Ogletree would be a better player over the next three years than Patrick Crayton, I would be fine with it. Instead, I get the feeling that the decision is being made by the owner that Crayton would make more money, so he needs to go - assuming everyone else stays healthy.

Besides, Ellis and Henry were over, and Austin got his chance because Roy Williams got hurt. Crayton isn't over, IMO.

 

[blindzebra]

I think there is a big difference between the coaches deciding which player will stay on the team and the owner making that decision.

If Wade Phillips came out tomorrow and said he thinks Ogletree would be a better player over the next three years than Patrick Crayton, I would be fine with it. Instead, I get the feeling that the decision is being made by the owner that Crayton would make more money, so he needs to go - assuming everyone else stays healthy.

Besides, Ellis and Henry were over, and Austin got his chance because Roy Williams got hurt. Crayton isn't over, IMO.

The minute it was said, "With the 24th pick the Cowboys select Dez Bryant WR, Ok St." Crayton was over.

 

[VThokie7]

I really dislike Crayton, sure he beat the odds as a 7th rounder but he has always ran his mouth way too much. Earn your roster spot or shut up. The Cowboys compensated him beyond fairly for his time and never threw him under the bus when his mistakes cost the team (Giants playoff drops).