Cuban sues Nelson for beating the Mavs

[zrinkill]

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/29/WSNOTES.TMP

 

[Mavs Man]

That situation is ugly. For all of Nelson's years here, I wish Cuban had just paid the man and gotten past all this crap.

By the way Mark, thanks for pissing off our former coach who knows the Mavs inside and out going into an opening round matchup with his new team.

 

[Danny White]

Cuban really is a troll.

I thought zrin was being facetious in his thread title, but he wasn't... he really is suing him for being them.

 

[Mavs Man]

Cuban really is a troll.

I thought zrin was being facetious in his thread title, but he wasn't... he really is suing him for being them.

Sadly, so did I. This is stupid.

 

[sandy007]

I hope Cuban gets a WNBA team because he has too much free time.

 

[zrinkill]

I thought zrin was being facetious in his thread title, but he wasn't... he really is suing him for beating them.

With Cuban involved ..... there is no need to exagerate.

I have never seen a bigger sore loser than him.

 

[Danny White]

With Cuban involved ..... there is no need to exagerate.

I have never seen a bigger sore loser than him.

Thanks for fixing my typo! :toast2:

 

[joseephuss]

"According to a source with knowledge of the situation, Cuban filed a counterclaim against Nelson last month, contending that the former Mavs coach violated his non-compete clause by using insider information against Dallas during the playoffs."

I wonder if there really was a no-compete clause in Nelson's contract. That would be weird. I figured there was an exemption from those kinds of clauses in players or coaches contracts. Any other job they take would be competing. Does not make sense. I can understand if there was just some unsettled business about money owed, but this junk is stupid by Cuban.

 

[Mavs Man]

It's especially stupid since we're already paying so much to ex-players who are no longer there. What's an extra $6.5 million just to end this mess?

 

[peplaw06]

I wonder if there really was a no-compete clause in Nelson's contract. That would be weird. I figured there was an exemption from those kinds of clauses in players or coaches contracts. Any other job they take would be competing. Does not make sense. I can understand if there was just some unsettled business about money owed, but this junk is stupid by Cuban.

There very well may be a non-compete clause in the contract. Billy Donovan had to sign one to get out of his contract with Orlando a couple of weeks ago. He is not allowed to sign with another NBA team in the next 5 seasons, since that's how long his contract with them was supposed to be.

But usually the guys who are going to break it clear it up with the other party and it's waived or not enforced. Guess Nelson didn't do that? But this is still a dumb move by Cuban. All it does for the team is make the choke-job linger. But hey, he's all about the $$$

 

[zrinkill]

Makes Cuban look like a petty wimp who fears Nelson.

If the Mavs would have beat them ..... this would have never been brought up.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

should the spurs sue the mavs for 2006?


what a pansy.

 

[zrinkill]

should the spurs sue the mavs for 2006?


what a pansy.

Yea ...... what would Cuban have said if we said the little general had inside info about our team so we are suing .......

The guy is the joke of the NBA

 

[MC KAos]

It's especially stupid since we're already paying so much to ex-players who are no longer there. What's an extra $6.5 million just to end this mess?

like finley's 17 million for winning championships with their bitter rivals? ah i love it. But ya cuban is so lame

 

[peplaw06]

should the spurs sue the mavs for 2006?


what a pansy.

Yea ...... what would Cuban have said if we said the little general had inside info about our team so we are suing .......

The guy is the joke of the NBA

The parallel isn't exactly the same. I bet you that if Avery had a no-compete clause that wasn't cleared up before going to Dallas, the ownership of the Spurs would have had something to say about it.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

cuban has nothing to stand on here.

if he was so adament about some alleged broken non compete, he should have brought it up the day nelson was hired, not after his team gets embarrassed by them months later in the playoffs.

i'm glad he's not the owner of my team.

he's pathetic.

 

[peplaw06]

cuban has nothing to stand on here.

if he was so adament about some alleged broken non compete, he should have brought it up the day nelson was hired, not after his team gets embarrassed by them months later in the playoffs.

i'm glad he's not the owner of my team.

he's pathetic.

Nothing to stand on? Really? I think you may need to reread the article.

Cuban filed a counterclaim. The case was initially filed by Nelson for payments he feels he is owed from his contract he signed before Cuban was the owner. This has been an ongoing dispute between the two.

If Nelson violated the contract's non-compete clause, then Cuban does have a leg to stand on in refusing to pay Nelson.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

This commentary out of...what do you know, dallas......says it best.



http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/other/07/01/0701sptcol.html



Sunday, July 01, 2007

DALLAS — For all you fans wanting to know what the heck's going on with the Dallas Mavericks while the Warriors get better and the Trail Blazers get better and the Sonics get better and the Mavs get Nick Fazekas, :laugh2: here's your answer:

Mark Cuban has gone nuts.

The official word is that he's in the hospital for "hip replacement surgery," which is the new euphemism for "institutionalized."

How else do you explain it? Sure, we've seen Mad Mark do some silly things in the name of the Mavs.

He's warred with the commissioner, warred with the refs, warred with the media, even warred with San Antonio about the toxicity of its River Walk. (PCL NOTE....TOXIC RIVERWALK 4, CUBAN 0)

But this complaint tops them all: He's suing Don Nelson on grounds that Nelson beat his old team with insider information, and he wants Golden State to cease and desist, herewith.

Cuban has made billions doing things no one else thought practical. As has been written in this space before, I'm loath to take on someone not only far smarter than me, but a guy who never sleeps, either.

Still, until we get some kind of response other than a no comment — apparently, you can still e-mail while wearing a straitjacket — we'll have to take this at face value.

A Nellie-Cuban culture primer: Once upon a time, two great minds got together to resurrect a basketball franchise. And for a couple of years, anyway, life was great. But Cuban eventually tired of Nellie's work ethic. Nellie, in turn, resented Cuban's interference.

The simmering feud came to a boil when Cuban allowed Nellie's favorite player, Steve Nash, to walk in free agency. For all intents and purposes, Cuban thought Nellie cashed in. And that's how this became a case soon to be handled by Judge Judy.

On the surface, it looks like it's all about money. Nellie says the Mavs owe him $6.5 million from the days when Ross Perot Jr. owned the club, and he wants it. Or a settlement.

Cuban says Nellie violated a non-compete clause in his contract by taking the deal to coach the Warriors.

An arbitrator will decide who's right this fall. But you don't need a law degree to know who's wrong.

Since when did money ever matter to Cuban? He's thrown it around with impunity since he bought the team. He's spent more on luxury hotels and plush towels and private jets than he ever owed Nellie.

Money isn't the issue.

Ego, is what it is.

Cuban had every right to question Nellie's work ethic. Nellie sat out part of a season to fix his golf swing, for instance.

And then Nellie quit to become a consultant, and that should have been the end of a good marriage gone bad.

But it didn't end. Cuban won't let it. Next thing you know, you've got both sides alleging breach of contract.

And now, to help his case, Cuban contends that the Warriors beat the Mavs because of Nellie's inside knowledge, violating terms of his non-compete clause.

If Cuban's point holds up in court, no coach who's fired from here on out will ever get another job in his or her sport again.

For that matter, how much did Nellie need to know? The Warriors' hold on the Mavs predated Nellie's arrival. The problem the last couple of years has been the matchup.

All any team needs to handle the Warriors is a low-post presence and a point guard. The Mavs have neither. Utah has both, which is how Golden State got bounced from the playoffs after its historic upset.

Either Cuban thinks Nellie is still getting inside info about his old team — in which case, he should clean house — or it's all just a legal maneuver to cloud the issue.

"Mark has always claimed that Don was always looking for excuses to lose," said John O'Connor, Nelson's lawyer. "It seems like somebody else is making excuses here."

Best guess: Cuban doesn't really think Nellie beat them, no matter what it looks like. He simply can't let anything go.

Bad enough when the league's best regular-season team gets booted from the playoffs by the eighth seed. Mad Mark won't let a bad ending die peacefully. He wants to drag it out, create a circus, exact his revenge, no matter what the cost. And money is the least of it.


Kevin Sherrington writes for The Dallas Morning News.

 

[zrinkill]

But this complaint tops them all: He's suing Don Nelson on grounds that Nelson beat his old team with insider information, and he wants Golden State to cease and desist, herewith.