Culture. culture. culture

[TwoCentPlain]

The Cowboys are the most popular sport team in the world. Dallas is under a magnascope and all the news gets amplified and broadcast to the whole world. Nothing happening in Dallas is not also happening with other teams.

Anyone want to talk Bengals and 'culture?' Joe Mixon getting drafted in the 2nd rd. Didn't WR Westbrook punch his pregnant girlfriend and get drafted in the 3rd round? I thought I read where something like 70% of NFLers have a felony record. You ain't winning squat with choirboys on the football field. These players in the NFL today have been spoiled for the past 10 years. Some have had no discipline their entire lives. Throw in youth and money and women and drugs and you have a recipe for problems.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Football 101. You are either coaching it or allowing it to happen.

Jerry allows it to happen.

 

[Ranching]

I am trying to choose my words carefully, so this thread does not get deleted. But I have been saying this for years. There is a culture in Dallas that attracts the worst things at the worst times.

When you enjoy the spoils of winning (richest franchise in the WORLD, prime time schedule for holidays, sunday nights, monday nights, 4pm, a coach getting his FIRST head coaching job at ANY level...right here in Dallas....a play caller getting his first chance to call plays at ANY level...right here in Dallas...players getting PERSONAL body guards assigned to them by the TEAM....owner racing to the sidelines in a nationally televised game to tell the head coach an injured Romo is ready to re-enter the game etc...i could go on and on)....but when there are no REAL repercussions for not winning....and you are blessed with the money, attention, adulation usually reserved for winners...it brings out the worst in people. So the media, women, hangers-on, random guys at the bar/club....they all want to get "their" piece of the action. They all want a piece of the attention. They all want a seat at the party.

Dallas has been a big soap opera....win or lose...for the longest. And my fear is that coming of a 13 - 3 season...with the arrow pointing up...the culture that has never really been cleaned up...will sack this operation before it gets a chance to get off the ground. And I will not be the least bit surprised...because the leader of the pack sits right at the top of this organization....and he is the biggest benefactor of these "spoils of winning"...without actually having to win!

P.S. - wasn't it just 2 years ago that we had fringe players...not adhering to the dress code instituted by the HEAD COACH...and they were cut? That stuck with me. That made me question the culture!

This kind of stuff happens in college and even HS. I've seen HS teams and players get passes from teachers, administration and others because they are winning and are local heros. I've seen HS players signing autographs after games and unemployed wearing their letter jackets several years later. It is what it is. I don't agree with it, but it's a reality with many more teams. The Cowboys issues are magnified because they are the Cowboys.

 

[Doomsday101]

Movies like North Dallas 40 and things Pete Gent said was going long before Jerry Jones, Cowboys have always dealt with controversy. This is why Calvin Hill would tells new guys to watch their step and how the spot light in Dallas is brighter. The franchise has been dealing with Controversy for a long time. Difference todays is a 24 hour news cycle. Not excusing guys in the least it is the world in which we live in and todays athletes need to be much more careful than ever before.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Maybe it's not the culture and Zeke is just a *******?

This dame culture built Witten and Romo and Tyron and the rest of the o line. This same culture saw through the maturity and development Dez. This same culture allowed what could have been a debilitating Romo/Dak situation and relegated it to the side story pursued by outside media.

I get Zeke is our shiny new toy but blaming this on the "culture " is just code for.... "I don't want this to be indicative of who Zeke is."

But maybe this is who Zeke is.

 

[Kaiser]

2. A drunken owner that ****** around like Hugh Hefner and invites it into the building.

Billionaire owner hires half of the available strippers so there is less for the millionaire players. I think you are failing to see the glass half full.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Yep....going 13 - 3 brings a different kind of attention. And WE are not handling it!

Let's not pretend Dak is some angel sent from heaven to make this team pure. He got a DWI months before the draft and was involved in a fight in Florida on spring break. He's had his issues, too.

When you consider the fact that Dak is a 4th round pick...who went to camp as the 3rd string QB....found himself the STARTER because of injuries...led the Dallas Cowboys...coming off a 4-12 season...to the best record in the NFC...with the Tony Romo saga hanging over his head all year....Dak is easily the biggest success story in the NFL over the last 20 years. The fact that he has not parlayed that into his "chance" to cash in on what might his only chance at a lottery ticket in life...speaks volumes to what kind of kid we are lucky to have stumbled upon. No person on earth is a choirboy...so that is not the expectation. Zeke....no matter how you spin this...is out of control. He is not savvy enough or simply does not care. For that reason...I think we have a ticking time bomb on our hands. And it's a shame. With this OL...and his ability...and running for 1800 yards his rookie season...the road is PAVED to Canton...and he simply does not get it!

 

[CWR]

Sorry I jumped to conclusions. I agree this team hasnt been able to handle success since the 90s. Even then there were issues, but they kept winning. Now days we cant even win in back to back seasons.

 

[Lutonio]

I get the notion out forth here, but I don't support pinning this all on Jerry Jones.

These players are grown *** men, and they make their own decisions.

 

[JBond]

Lack of accountability will hurt any organization. Having an egomaniac as the gm and owner is about the dumbest idea I have ever witnessed in professional sports. Really bright people know their weaknesses. Jerry is not that bright, at least when it comes to playing GM.

 

[Montanalo]

What makes you say that? Apart from the fact that several of these recent incidents have happened offseason. We don't really know what fines or discipline the team levies, or what consequences they hand out or how consistently.

All we really know is that it's a persistent problem, and it has been for a long time.

You're right, we really don't know what goes on behind the scenes. I have no doubts, though, that the Cowboys set very clear expectations for their players and, within the boundaries of the CBA, have very well defined policies and practices. So, why then, are there persistent problems. I think it goes beyond drafting or signing troubled players. Just my opinion, but I think the organization is inconsistent in its application of policies.

 

[TheCoolFan]

These guys want to live the NY/LA lifestyle but don't realize that it's different in DFW vs. those cities. Yes, the DFW media overall is not on the level of the NY/LA media but for the Cowboys, I'd say the level is similar.

However, Dallas isn't NY/LA in terms of the culture. If you want to have fun, fine, but you have to realize that this is Texas and not some place where the public is used to seeing celebrities everywhere. When you're in those other cities, you know everyone in the world is watching you so you tend to act accordingly.

 

[MileyDancer]

Part of it comes with the city.

How so?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

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People do not want to admit it ........ But Jerry runs this company like its WWE.

And as long as he keeps making money he will assume how he runs it is the right way.

And with Jerry...any pub is good pub.

Funny thing about that though was when it was getting so out of hand in the late 90's and the reason why the FO decided on taking Greg instead of Randy. And from local papers Randy REALLY expected to be taken by the Cowboys. I think Jones told him it was a go but was out voted so to speak because of the image of the team, irvin, the white house, big e and so on.

After a year or so of that, they went back to ...if they think the value is worth the risk so be it. They had nothing to lose because they lost so much after the 90's .

 

[Chuck 54]

The culture seems to work fine for 95% of the Cowboys.

It ain't the culture or the bright lights; it's the individual men who focus on their careers vs the few who focus on their free time, money, and opportunities to party.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Our saving grace is Dak. And while I think Dak is a wonderful talent...not sure he is READY....nor is it fair...to ask him to overcome EVERYTHING that comes with being the QB of the Dallas Cowboys. We are lucky that the RB is the one who seemingly cannot handle the spotlight. Because if Dak rolled the way Zeke rolled...the future would NOT be bright.

Already...it is apparent to me...that Zeke cannot be trusted. Already, it is apparent to me...that Zeke does not get IT! Not sure what is and what is not true...but the mere fact the HEADLINES he is creating has not convinced him to lay low...tells me a lot about this guy. And I don't want to hear "he is 21 years old excuse". There are PLENTLY of 21 year olds who would not do what he has done in his position. And it tells me that he is not listening to people in his ear. I am sure he parents and advisors have told him to lay low...the fact that he ignores them should sound the alarm that this guy cannot be counted on!

If Dak rolled the way Zeke rolls Tony Romo would still be our QB.

 

[Redball Express]

I am trying to choose my words carefully, so this thread does not get deleted. But I have been saying this for years. There is a culture in Dallas that attracts the worst things at the worst times.

When you enjoy the spoils of winning (richest franchise in the WORLD, prime time schedule for holidays, sunday nights, monday nights, 4pm, a coach getting his FIRST head coaching job at ANY level...right here in Dallas....a play caller getting his first chance to call plays at ANY level...right here in Dallas...players getting PERSONAL body guards assigned to them by the TEAM....owner racing to the sidelines in a nationally televised game to tell the head coach an injured Romo is ready to re-enter the game etc...i could go on and on)....but when there are no REAL repercussions for not winning....and you are blessed with the money, attention, adulation usually reserved for winners...it brings out the worst in people. So the media, women, hangers-on, random guys at the bar/club....they all want to get "their" piece of the action. They all want a piece of the attention. They all want a seat at the party.

Dallas has been a big soap opera....win or lose...for the longest. And my fear is that coming of a 13 - 3 season...with the arrow pointing up...the culture that has never really been cleaned up...will sack this operation before it gets a chance to get off the ground. And I will not be the least bit surprised...because the leader of the pack sits right at the top of this organization....and he is the biggest benefactor of these "spoils of winning"...without actually having to win!

P.S. - wasn't it just 2 years ago that we had fringe players...not adhering to the dress code instituted by the HEAD COACH...and they were cut? That stuck with me. That made me question the culture!

To me it boils down the players are not afraid of the coaches..

especially the HC.

It was that way with Phillips..

now with Garrett.

Jerrah is not even feared.

So with no fear and an inflated set of values..

no discipline.

Once the dust settles..

hopefully DAK, Lee and Witten can gain control of the locker room.

We need less Garrett and more on the field control of things.

Not sure we have the character on this team to overcome the mistakes we have made in players we drafted who have let us down.

 

[BAT]

I am trying to choose my words carefully, so this thread does not get deleted. But I have been saying this for years. There is a culture in Dallas that attracts the worst things at the worst times.

When you enjoy the spoils of winning (richest franchise in the WORLD, prime time schedule for holidays, sunday nights, monday nights, 4pm, a coach getting his FIRST head coaching job at ANY level...right here in Dallas....a play caller getting his first chance to call plays at ANY level...right here in Dallas...players getting PERSONAL body guards assigned to them by the TEAM....owner racing to the sidelines in a nationally televised game to tell the head coach an injured Romo is ready to re-enter the game etc...i could go on and on)....but when there are no REAL repercussions for not winning....and you are blessed with the money, attention, adulation usually reserved for winners...it brings out the worst in people. So the media, women, hangers-on, random guys at the bar/club....they all want to get "their" piece of the action. They all want a piece of the attention. They all want a seat at the party.

Dallas has been a big soap opera....win or lose...for the longest. And my fear is that coming of a 13 - 3 season...with the arrow pointing up...the culture that has never really been cleaned up...will sack this operation before it gets a chance to get off the ground. And I will not be the least bit surprised...because the leader of the pack sits right at the top of this organization....and he is the biggest benefactor of these "spoils of winning"...without actually having to win!

P.S. - wasn't it just 2 years ago that we had fringe players...not adhering to the dress code instituted by the HEAD COACH...and they were cut? That stuck with me. That made me question the culture!

It is very strange as how one act deserved a cut while the other did not. Not adhering to dress code vs. intimidating woman w/car and semi-automatic = Jason Garrett is completely whacked.

 

[BAT]

Sorry I jumped to conclusions. I agree this team hasnt been able to handle success since the 90s. Even then there were issues, but they kept winning. Now days we cant even win in back to back seasons.

That's because Garrett never gets a fair shot and Jimmy was a failure.

 

[Vanilla2]

Intriguing post. Makes everyone want to say...HEY...WHAT'S GOING ON?

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