cutting T.O. wont make us a better team

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

Great to see you already are planning your escape clause. So cutting TO was a mistake if we fail and it was a mistake if we succeed. Got it.

havent been home since i made this thread so im just getting a chance to respond.

there is no escape clause. unlike you i try to remain positive and am an optimist. while im not a homer like 70% of the people on this board and approve of everything this team does be it as dumb as it may be i never going into a year rooting for my team to lose to prove a point to people. idont come in trying to expect the worse even though it seems as if were headed in said direction

im a knicks fan and every year for the last few i argue with my friend whos a knick hater and often bashes my team that were going to the post season. i know in my heart we probably wont make it but the fan in me wont allow me to say so and lose faith in my team. so if youre waiting for me to say were gonna be worse off and wont do anything of substance dont hold youre breathe. i will continue to support my team and hope for the best no matter the dumb moves we make like this one. i can only pray we overcome it. i may not agree with a lot of the decisions but that doesnt mean i have to sit there waiting for us to crash and burn either

maybe thats what you do but i dont

Originally Posted by fiveandcounting
Hey bud before you call your fellow Cowboy fans and posters stupid learn the difference between the words "to" and "too"

sorry i thought this was a forum not my english class. maybe you have tons of time to sit there and proof read youre post but i actuallly have better things to do. i typed this up before heading out to work.

if it makes you feel any better and being you have tons of time on youre hands maybe you can proof read my post from now on and then ill edit it later after you made corrections. thanks

 

[hutch1254]

i actually see some people are being stupid and comparing this to the tiki barber situation with the giants. saying we to can have addition by subtraction.

when the the 2 are completely different. the giants have more then proven with their o-line and blocking schemes anyone can run efffectively and for 1000 plus yards behind their line. so tiki's effectiveness and presence was easily replaced and over valued at the time of his retirement.

shockey as well was sparingly used and was not even an integral part of their passing game since his rookie year. his production was not that of a top tier TE.

the giants and many of their fans then foolishly thought after the plaxico situation they could rely on the same philosophy and cut plaxico after the season

fortunately for giants fans they got to see 1st hand how their offense looked without plaxico. defenses were able to now key in on their dominate run game and play them closer to the line without fear of a player of plax caliber beating them deep.

i live in newyork and the media went on daily and weekly rant of

"the giants dont need plaxico!!!

'' the new cancer must be cut!!!

fast forward a few weeks later and a playoff loss to philly those rants changed to

should the giants bring plax back?

he deserves another shot!!! (no pun intended)

after they got to witness 1st hand the effects of losing their star wide out.

now their gm and everyone is welcoming him back with open arms if he is cleared of all legal charges.

unlike the giants we dont get to evaluate the aftermath of not having owens until the start of next year. unlike them there is no turning back on our decision, the damage has been done.

will we be a better team next yr of fall flat on our face? who knows. but i doubt cutting our star wr and one of the better ones in the league helps.

if we play better next yr it wont be because of 1 single player being cut, it will be simply because this team had no buisness winning 9 gms last yr and underachieved. people forget we went 13-3 with T,O NOT LONG AGO. it wasnt his fault we lost to the giants. if we are truly a better team it will be cause guys stepped up and did their jobs. garrett finally improved and learned to adjust while also staying committed to the run game and not abandonning it

wade manned a dominate defense for all not part of the season while finding a stud at safety. these will be the reasons we will be better next yr. NOT because T.O. is no longer around

i was and still am a fan of owens but i am a cowboy fan first. so despite my belief this was a terrible move i can only support this team heading into next yr and hope those things stated occur and can only nullify what went on with T.O and his departure. COWBOYS IN 09

You know what, Owens doesn't matter anymore to the Cowboys situation. We're moving on. The only relavant TO thread worth really posting in would be "does he go in the hall of fame." Everything else is pointless. He's gone.

 

[Established1971]

havent been home since i made this thread so im just getting a chance to respond.

there is no escape clause. unlike you i try to remain positive and am an optimist. while im not a homer like 70% of the people on this board and approve of everything this team does be it as dumb as it may be i never going into a year rooting for my team to lose to prove a point to people. idont come in trying to expect the worse even though it seems as if were headed in said direction

im a knicks fan and every year for the last few i argue with my friend whos a knick hater and often bashes my team that were going to the post season. i know in my heart we probably wont make it but the fan in me wont allow me to say so and lose faith in my team. so if youre waiting for me to say were gonna be worse off and wont do anything of substance dont hold youre breathe. i will continue to support my team and hope for the best no matter the dumb moves we make like this one. i can only pray we overcome it. i may not agree with a lot of the decisions but that doesnt mean i have to sit there waiting for us to crash and burn either

maybe thats what you do but i dont



sorry i thought this was a forum not my english class. maybe you have tons of time to sit there and proof read youre post but i actuallly have better things to do. i typed this up before heading out to work.

if it makes you feel any better and being you have tons of time on youre hands maybe you can proof read my post from now on and then ill edit it later after you made corrections. thanks

Typical and predictable response. The amount of time it took me was literally a couple of seconds. No this is not an English class. I see spelling and grammatical errors constantly that I say nothing about. I make them myself sometimes. But YOU called people stupid. That is a fact, go back and read it. When someone calls me stupid and they spell wrong in the very same sentence I call them out. Count on it.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I'm still a 81 fan, he'll definitely be missed in the huddle because the guy still can play football. Derrick Mason made a great point on NFL Network, you can't replace the production he brought.

 

[Hostile]

I'm still a 81 fan, he'll definitely be missed in the huddle because the guy still can play football. Derrick Mason made a great point on NFL Network, you can't replace the production he brought.

Barry Sanders retired right before the 1999 season. The Lions could not replace his production. Especially since the Draft was gone and Free Agency was long past slim pickings. In 1999 the Lions were 8-8 after being 5-11 in 1998.

Sometimes a team loses on field talent but is a better team without the need to focus on one individual.

 

[BrassCowboy]

i actually see some people are being stupid and comparing this to the tiki barber situation with the giants. saying we to can have addition by subtraction.

when the the 2 are completely different. the giants have more then proven with their o-line and blocking schemes anyone can run efffectively and for 1000 plus yards behind their line. so tiki's effectiveness and presence was easily replaced and over valued at the time of his retirement.

shockey as well was sparingly used and was not even an integral part of their passing game since his rookie year. his production was not that of a top tier TE.

the giants and many of their fans then foolishly thought after the plaxico situation they could rely on the same philosophy and cut plaxico after the season

fortunately for giants fans they got to see 1st hand how their offense looked without plaxico. defenses were able to now key in on their dominate run game and play them closer to the line without fear of a player of plax caliber beating them deep.

i live in newyork and the media went on daily and weekly rant of

"the giants dont need plaxico!!!

'' the new cancer must be cut!!!

fast forward a few weeks later and a playoff loss to philly those rants changed to

should the giants bring plax back?

he deserves another shot!!! (no pun intended)

after they got to witness 1st hand the effects of losing their star wide out.

now their gm and everyone is welcoming him back with open arms if he is cleared of all legal charges.

unlike the giants we dont get to evaluate the aftermath of not having owens until the start of next year. unlike them there is no turning back on our decision, the damage has been done.

will we be a better team next yr of fall flat on our face? who knows. but i doubt cutting our star wr and one of the better ones in the league helps.

if we play better next yr it wont be because of 1 single player being cut, it will be simply because this team had no buisness winning 9 gms last yr and underachieved. people forget we went 13-3 with T,O NOT LONG AGO. it wasnt his fault we lost to the giants. if we are truly a better team it will be cause guys stepped up and did their jobs. garrett finally improved and learned to adjust while also staying committed to the run game and not abandonning it

wade manned a dominate defense for all not part of the season while finding a stud at safety. these will be the reasons we will be better next yr. NOT because T.O. is no longer around

i was and still am a fan of owens but i am a cowboy fan first. so despite my belief this was a terrible move i can only support this team heading into next yr and hope those things stated occur and can only nullify what went on with T.O and his departure. COWBOYS IN 09

if you were on American Idol, I would say you are being safe with your writeup here.
Of course if the team plays better, it will be because they underachieved the year before and that players stepped up to the plate. How can anyone argue against that?

I will not get into the comparisons with Giants and any other team for that matter. Doesn't matter to me.

What does matter, and I will not play it safe and go out on a liomb with obviously the majority of everyone else out there in saying that this team will definately be a much better team without TO.

Do you remember last year in the last several weeks of the regular season when everyone was saying 'we must find a way to get the ball to TO'?

Now tell me that Garrett did not alter his normal gameplanning and devise it specifically get the ball to TO....
How about Romo, how many times did we see him specifically force balls in TO's direction to keep TO happy?

If either of these things were not being done, TO was whining to the media and to Jerry about how he is the playmaker on this team and you must get the playmaker the ball.

well TO, you can take your rubbish BS to some other team like the Raiders, because we want to win as a team, not as one player surrounded by a team!!!


**edited: when I wrote this, I did not yet read any replies to original so I get a sense of confirmation about me saying his original was playing it "safe" in the sense that bad or good, his bases are covered.

 

[Dallaslullaby]

The only way the TO decision will really hurt us is if Roy W does not step up as a no1 and plays like last year.

Personally I would not have given up what we did for Roy W and would have waited to see what detroit did with him at the end of the season but what is done is done and we will live and fall by that decision.

I would have given up what we did for Roy to go and get Crabtree who I think will be a beast but time will tell

 

[Mash]

Seriously, how much worse can it get? 7-9? 8-8?

If all Dallas is going to do with TO is miss the playoffs or get bounced 1st round, the team really isn't losing that much.

Simply cutting TO does not make the team any more talented, better, united or whatever.

But at the same time the team really isn't that much worse off.

I agree....Championship or Bust...

Who is next on the chopping block? Romo? Wade? ......might as well go back and pick up scrubs.....Hambone and Quincy Carter accomplised just as much as this supposed talented team....

Till this team finds some leaders and make themselves accountable......it will be all the same next year....

Lets just hope that some players....especially Bubble Boy Romo takes the bull by the horns and leads this team.