Dad finds babysitter molesting his son, beats man to a bloody pulp

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This is the only time temporary insanity should be allowed. The Dad is completely justified in beating that guy to a pulp.
 

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This is the only time temporary insanity should be allowed. The Dad is completely justified in beating that guy to a pulp.

I disagree. It doesn't have to reach a point where he has to claim some sort of temporary insanity. People are allowed to defend themselves and their family. The local authorities agree, which is why he isn't being charged with anything.
 

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You have to read the article before passing judgement on why the kid was left under the young man's supervision. I've read it in detail and the young man, who was 18, btw, was a long time neighbor and family friend. Although when the dad left, the kid wasn't in the young man's care, but that changed while he was gone.

Either way, the dad won't be charged and he was able to get a bit of personal justice before calling the cops.

Actually , abusers are far more likely to be relatives, neighbors and friends than strangers
 

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Actually , abusers are far more likely to be relatives, neighbors and friends than strangers

Yeah, I wasn't implying otherwise. I just didn't clearly convey my thought process on the timeframe of how the young man was caught. Downside of trying to post while at work. Dad had left the kid in someone else's care. He came home and others who had been there when he left were gone with the young man and kid being left alone.

That said, he'd been doing it for three years, which is just so tragic.
 

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You have to read the article before passing judgement on why the kid was left under the young man's supervision. I've read it in detail and the young man, who was 18, btw, was a long time neighbor and family friend. Although when the dad left, the kid wasn't in the young man's care, but that changed while he was gone.

Either way, the dad won't be charged and he was able to get a bit of personal justice before calling the cops.

He went all Ip Man on him.
 

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This is the only time temporary insanity should be allowed. The Dad is completely justified in beating that guy to a pulp.

No jury is going to convict him so why bother to charge him? Besides most officers aren't going to arrest the guy for something they'd have done as well.....or worse.
 

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Yeah, I wasn't implying otherwise. I just didn't clearly convey my thought process on the timeframe of how the young man was caught. Downside of trying to post while at work. Dad had left the kid in someone else's care. He came home and others who had been there when he left were gone with the young man and kid being left alone.

That said, he'd been doing it for three years, which is just so tragic.

I want to apologize to you WG. I thought you were implying that that information was contained in the link above. I didn't read anything there detailing how the child was initially left with an family, who then left the kid alone unsupervised with that garbage. Not exactly letting an older neighbor boy come over to babysit scenario like I previously/wrongly assumed. My mistake.
 

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I want to apologize to you WG. I thought you were implying that that information was contained in the link above. I didn't read anything there detailing how the child was initially left with an family, who then left the kid alone unsupervised with that garbage. Not exactly letting an older neighbor boy come over to babysit scenario like I previously/wrongly assumed. My mistake.

No need to apologize. I didn't read the article from the link posted either, because I had already read an article about it when the news first broke on Friday and listened to the 911 audio. It was quite detailed, so I assumed that the link posted contained similar info. Fact is, the young man was a friend of the family and no one suspected he was capable of being a monster. The father even said so in the 911 audio. That's why whoever left the kid alone with him didn't suspect anything, because more than likely he'd been left responsible for the kid a lot.

This was the article I read --> http://www.news-journalonline.com/a...er-beats-man-he-found-raping-child-police-say
 

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No need to apologize. I didn't read the article from the link posted either, because I had already read an article about it when the news first broke on Friday and listened to the 911 audio. It was quite detailed, so I assumed that the link posted contained similar info. Fact is, the young man was a friend of the family and no one suspected he was capable of being a monster. The father even said so in the 911 audio. That's why whoever left the kid alone with him didn't suspect anything, because more than likely he'd been left responsible for the kid a lot.

This was the article I read --> http://www.news-journalonline.com/a...er-beats-man-he-found-raping-child-police-say

You're the bigger person;) Appreciate the additional information though.
 

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She's so tiny she makes Dana Perino look like a sumo wrestler.

Ohhhh Perino (teeth grinding), love-hate thing going on there for me unless you two are settling scores? :D
 
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I know it's a bit ignorant, but evidence shows that males are much more likely to be perpetrators of violence and especially sexual abuse. I just see it as playing it safe. Why chance it type of thing? Parents would be naive (my opinion) to not take that aspect into consideration. I would ask, what young male would actively seek to accompany young children? That would throw up immediate flags in my book.

Stereotyping and prejudices are human nature, but not exactly the best way to approach it.

I babysat for younger boys when I was in my teens, partially because I am social and can connect well with younger kids. It isn't hard to eat pizza, play sports and play videogames for money.
 

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Stereotyping and prejudices are human nature, but not exactly the best way to approach it.

I babysat for younger boys when I was in my teens, partially because I am social and can connect well with younger kids. It isn't hard to eat pizza, play sports and play videogames for money.

I agree and openly admit my thinking is a bit "out of whack" with the rest of my leanings. In my upbringing, males were generally threats unless proven otherwise. It can be hard for me to make that stretch to envision these types of males being trusted to watch children even without sexual misconduct being at play. It is a personal bias that I know could interfere with social mainstream ideology and doesn't conform to my other social views regarding a just society. I guess I've seen a lot of ugly from men, not so much from women (to the same extent).
 

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how though?

Ask for references. Ask friends with kids who they use. Things like that. It's not full proof but it's a good start. You could also ask for their SSN and run a background check on them. :) Don't know how far you would get with that one.
 

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I agree and openly admit my thinking is a bit "out of whack" with the rest of my leanings. In my upbringing, males were generally threats unless proven otherwise. It can be hard for me to make that stretch to envision these types of males being trusted to watch children even without sexual misconduct being at play. It is a personal bias that I know could interfere with social mainstream ideology and doesn't conform to my other social views regarding a just society. I guess I've seen a lot of ugly from men, not so much from women (to the same extent).

I don't know how old you are but it's still that way. The boogeymen are around every corner and they all have male genitalia. Every body is so paranoid anymore you can't even let your kid play outside unsupervised in some neighborhoods without fear CPS is going to get called by your neighbor.
 

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I don't know how old you are but it's still that way. The boogeymen are around every corner and they all have male genitalia. Every body is so paranoid anymore you can't even let your kid play outside unsupervised in some neighborhoods without fear CPS is going to get called by your neighbor.

I'm almost 30 and was brought up during the "take your kid to Blockbuster/Earls" era to get their photo taken in case of kidnapping ,etc. So just at the start of the cultural awareness regarding sexual perp "pervasiveness". You are correct in that it has had a lasting effect. Any man with a child perceived not to be their own flesh is generally looked at with a watchful eye among the public. This was during the late 80's and early 90's in DC during the Murder Capitol reign. Was the Wild West in this city for a good 2 decades. Everyone looking for a way to get over on the next type of mentality.
 
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Stereotyping and prejudices are human nature, but not exactly the best way to approach it.

I babysat for younger boys when I was in my teens, partially because I am social and can connect well with younger kids. It isn't hard to eat pizza, play sports and play videogames for money.
lol yea, that's exactly what my babysitter when I was like 10 and 11 - a guy fwiw - always did.
 
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