Twitter: Dak’s deal did not reset the QB market

[Zordon]

Just like Zeke’s didn’t. This is why we call them dumb and dumber.

 

[John813]

Josh Allen seems pretty low compared to where he's being ranked now as a QB. Mahomes is the most obvious *** but they way his deal is structured he's set for the next what 8 years?

 

[jwooten15]

Except it did.

At the time, both Zeke and Dak's contract set a new standard in the market.

Of course other contracts since then have further inflated the market though. But that is natural for the NFL whose revenue and cap continue to grow.

 

[Zordon]

Except it did.

At the time, both Zeke and Dak's contract set a new standard in the market.

Of course other contracts since then have further inflated the market though. But that is natural for the NFL whose revenue and cap continue to grow.

I define resetting the market as being the new floor. That has not been the case for both players.

 

[jwooten15]

I define resetting the market as being the new floor. That has not been the case for both players.

Fair enough there!

 

[Bobhaze]

The QB market is the biggest outlier in NFL salaries. Most fans don’t realize how difficult it is to even find “starter quality” in the NFL, much less “elite” QB talent. It’s exactly why QBs are by far the highest paid.

And every time one of these young QBs gets a second contract, fans act surprised when they see the dollars being thrown. But again, it’s just what the market is dictating.

The RB market…not so much. Very few teams are signing RBs to big second deals. For a variety of reasons, but mostly because finding starter quality or better at RB is not that difficult these days. Especially in a RB by committee situation which allows teams to have a variety of skill sets utilized while also keeping RBs fresh.

 

[Batman1980]

The QB market is the biggest outlier in NFL salaries. Most fans don’t realize how difficult it is to even find “starter quality” in the NFL, much less “elite” QB talent. It’s exactly why QBs are by far the highest paid.

And every time one of these young QBs gets a second contract, fans act surprised when they see the dollars being thrown. But again, it’s just what the market is dictating.

The RB market…not so much. Very few teams are signing RBs to big second deals. For a variety of reasons, but mostly because finding starter quality or better at RB is not that difficult these days. Especially in a RB by committee situation which allows teams to have a variety of skill sets utilized while also keeping RBs fresh.

Not to mention, like pitchers, RBs can only take so much before the wheels start to come off and their effectiveness plummets. Exhibit A - Ezekiel Elliott, a perfect example of a player who had a good "by the numbers" season last year but most fans know he stunk.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

Jerry clearly feels Dak needs to earn his pay. The amount of talent on offense has decreased pretty drastically since last season.

 

[Batman1980]

Jerry clearly feels Dak needs to earn his pay. The amount of talent on offense has decreased pretty drastically since last season.

Why because overrated Coop is gone?

 

[shabazz]

The QB market is the biggest outlier in NFL salaries. Most fans don’t realize how difficult it is to even find “starter quality” in the NFL, much less “elite” QB talent. It’s exactly why QBs are by far the highest paid.
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Agree. I would argue that the bottom 10 starting quarterbacks have no business starting. This is the weakest bottom half of quarterback talent that I have ever seen in my life

Its damaging because it’s making mediocrity look like success and paying people way over their contribution level. Just a bad era for quarterbacks presently. The top 7 are great and the rest are expendable to forgettable

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

They're both horrible contracts that guaranteed failure.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

Why because overrated Coop is gone?

Coop
Ced
Collins
Connor
Turner

 

[Bobhaze]

Agree. I would argue that the bottom 10 starting quarterbacks have no business starting. This is the weakest bottom half of quarterback talent that I have ever seen in my life

Its damaging because it’s making mediocrity look like success and paying people way over their contribution level. Just a bad era for quarterbacks presently. The top 7 are great and the rest are expendable to forgettable

Teams are willing to pay big for above average at the QB position because even a decent QB is hard to find. Scarcity of QB talent is the biggest driver of market price.

 

[JBS]

They're both horrible contracts that guaranteed failure.

your point aside. Whether those two have those horrible contracts or not wouldn’t change whether this team is successful or not.

 

[shabazz]

Teams are willing to pay big for above average at the QB position because even a decent QB is hard to find. Scarcity of QB talent is the biggest driver of market price.

Good point. Sriracha sauce has tripled in price because of the shortage, Lol

 

[Denim Chicken]

Now do total guaranteed. Cash flow is not a great way to look at it as some deals are front loaded, while others are not. Dak is #8 in total guaranteed.

 

[Batman1980]

your point aside. Whether those two have those horrible contracts or not wouldn’t change whether this team is successful or not.

Actually this team has a history of being top-heavy with talent due to having bloated contracts.

 

[TwentyOne]

Except it did.

At the time, both Zeke and Dak's contract set a new standard in the market.

Of course other contracts since then have further inflated the market though. But that is natural for the NFL whose revenue and cap continue to grow.

Really ?

Do you have some facts to prove your point ?

 

[JBS]

Actually this team has a history of being top-heavy with talent due to having bloated contracts.

Cool. I guess you don’t understand the point

 

[jwooten15]

Really ?

Do you have some facts to prove your point ?

What are you talking about? Facts for what? I didn't even say anything that's controversial or subjective.

Just go look at where Dak and Zeke's contract ranked them when they signed their deals.