Twitter: Dak’s deal did not reset the QB market

[TwentyOne]

What are you talking about? Facts for what? I didn't even say anything that's controversial or subjective.

Just go look at where Dak and Zeke's contract ranked them when they signed their deals.

Ehm help me out, you didnt question the twitter post ?

You didnt say their contracts set new standards in the market ?

All i ask for is your facts to prove your point. I am just curious, maybe you are right.

 

[jwooten15]

your point aside. Whether those two have those horrible contracts or not wouldn’t change whether this team is successful or not.

It absolutely does change the chances of team success. If you're drastically overpaying and underperforming player, that definitely affects your ability to succeed

 

[jwooten15]

Ehm help me out, you didnt question the twitter post ?
You didnt say their contracts set new standards in the market ?

All i ask for is your facts to prove your point. I am just curious, maybe you are right.

Dak and Zeke's contract made each of them the highest paid at their position at the time of singing. Now, years later, they're not.

You're wanting me to post facts that back that up? Just do a general google search if you don't remember it to be true.

I don't get what you're so triggered by in me saying that.

 

[TwentyOne]

I'm not being intentionally naïve, but I legit don't know what you're asking.

Dak and Zeke's contract made each of them the highest paid at their position at the time of singing. Now, years later, they're not.

I don't get what you're so triggered by in me saying that.

Well if you say that their contracts set new standards then there have to be contracts after theirs that use that new standard. Otherwise they didnt set a new standard.

I am asking for those contracts to show me. Because i cant find them.

For RBs there is not one. RBs after Zeke never got a contract that high.
For QBs Mahome's and afterwards Rodger's set the standard to me. This is shown for example now in Wilsons new one.

But maybe you meant they set a new high. Not a new standard. But that would be also false because Mahome's contract is higher than Dak's. Overall and per anno.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Teams are willing to pay big for above average at the QB position because even a decent QB is hard to find. Scarcity of QB talent is the biggest driver of market price.

You're spot on, but it's interesting to look at how the league is changing at the QB position as well. In some ways we are starting to see that hang onto an average QB at all cost philosophy die with some teams. We are already seeing teams willing to dump guys like Matt Ryan, Wentz, Goff....even the Russel Wilsons and Watsons and not think twice about it. Each of the last 2, maybe 3 years we have seen about 1/3rd of the league find new QBs. There was a time not too long ago where that was basically unheard of. I'm almost wondering if the feeling around the league is starting to shift to the idea that there is an abundance of average QBs in the league, a few above average, a few more on that elite level. Then you have two schools of thought of either "If you don't have an elite QB you might as well just keep churning at the position" and "This average QB at least keeps us competitive and in a playoff hunt year after year so lets not mess it up".

Not sure that either approach is really wrong, but it certainly seems to be a league divided in terms of how to balance QBs and the cap.

 

[erod]

LOL, yeah, it did at the time.

Apparently, math is a rare skill these days.

 

[joseephuss]

Agree. I would argue that the bottom 10 starting quarterbacks have no business starting. This is the weakest bottom half of quarterback talent that I have ever seen in my life

Its damaging because it’s making mediocrity look like success and paying people way over their contribution level. Just a bad era for quarterbacks presently. The top 7 are great and the rest are expendable to forgettable

I disagree. Every era has roughly the same percentage of good QBs, to average QBs to bad QBs. Look back at any random season and compare the top QBs of that year to the others. There was the same split in quality.

 

[slick325]

Just like Zeke’s didn’t. This is why we call them dumb and dumber.

The most important part of Prescott's deal, besides the guaranteed money, was the fact that he gets another bite at the apple so soon. And you can best believe, he will seek a short extension so he can get another bite, and the Jones boys will have no choice but to acquiesce.

Super smart on Prescott and his agents. Well played business-wise.

 

[Denim Chicken]

LOL, yeah, it did at the time.

Apparently, math is a rare skill these days.

No, no it didn't. Dak's contract followed to trend of the market and what happened with QB contracts since then only reinforces this.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

It’s exactly why QBs are by far the highest paid.

In a strange way, they are an extension of the head coach and offensive coor coz the good/elite ones can hide a lot of team weaknesses.

 

[erod]

No, no it didn't. Dak's contract followed to trend of the market and what happened with QB contracts since then only reinforces this.

OK, I understand the angle you're taking, but it does reset the market when you're out in front like that. The other teams were just able to get longer deals, or they were dealing with olders players or different situations.

By 2027, quarterbacks will be making around $100 million per year. It's going to get so top-heavy that it's going to ruin the league. They need to figure out another structure fast.

 

[csirl]

I disagree. Every era has roughly the same percentage of good QBs, to average QBs to bad QBs. Look back at any random season and compare the top QBs of that year to the others. There was the same split in quality.

That's true.

One of the drivers of over inflated QB costs todsy versus paat eras is that the passing game is more inportant under todays rules, so QBs are a bigger factor in success/failure.

 

[Denim Chicken]

OK, I understand the angle you're taking, but it does reset the market when you're out in front like that. The other teams were just able to get longer deals, or they were dealing with olders players or different situations.

By 2027, quarterbacks will be making around $100 million per year. It's going to get so top-heavy that it's going to ruin the league. They need to figure out another structure fast.

Understand, but to me, if we're talking about a market reset you need a significant jump either lower or higher than the last guy. Dak's deal was slightly higher than what most franchise guys had received before (excluding for a few elite guys that he did not eclipse).

The QB market is going to need a true reset downward at some point if overall salary cap does not stay in step.

 

[cowboyec]

Coop
Ced
Collins
Connor
Turner

the only one on that list worth a damn was coooop.

 

[ChronicCowboy]

the only one on that list worth a damn was coooop.

lol ok

Connor was a penalty machine and Malik was a bit player so I’ll give you those.

Collins may have been more trouble then he was worth but he’s a solid tackle.

Coop and Ced were huge weapons for Dak over the past two seasons and losing them will be noticeable.

 

[JBS]

It absolutely does change the chances of team success. If you're drastically overpaying and underperforming player, that definitely affects your ability to succeed

Right. That’s the problem this team has. 30 years of failure bc the talent is never right

 

[kskboys]

Actually this team has a history of being top-heavy with talent due to having bloated contracts.

Shocking that anyone still doesn't get this. We've explained it to them over and over, shooting the idea to complete crapp, and they still come back w/ it.

Every contract affects a team's ability to put together a contender.

 

[Ranched]

Who cares. This topic about Dak's contract has been beaten to death. Everyone has their own opinion, right or wrong. Move on already.

 

[JBS]

Shocking that anyone still doesn't get this. We've explained it to them over and over, shooting the idea to complete crapp, and they still come back w/ it.

Every contract affects a team's ability to put together a contender.

Shocking that people don’t understand that contracts aren’t what are holding this team back

 

[Crown Royal]

Fans spend entirely too much time worrying about what players earn.

• It's not our money.
• It's more than any of us will ever earn (which allows me to not care as much when we lose - those guys will be fine)
• How it "affects the cap" is mostly an illusion perpetrated by the ownership. Within reason - you can build the roster how you like and spend how you like, depending on how creative you want to be.

Talking about how much players earn (or really getting all that concerned about it) is somewhere as useful as whining about pre-game fashion shows or Jerry Jones' open marriage.